Yes both have been a big part of the last 2 winning seasons.

So he made a good decision on a starting QB and defensive coordinator?

Yup. Terrible head coach.

Name a RB that is ever healthy for an entire season.

These injuries sure didn't seem to affect him too much in the games he got plenty of carries.

The sad state of affairs with this franchise is that the next coach to win a single playoff game could be considered the third most successful coach in the team's history based solely upon that win.

He wouldn't be thought of as a upper echelon coach had it not been for that SB run a decade ago, and hasn't won a playoff game without Johnson as a DC.

Of course, this is the NFL we're talking about here so he really doesn't have to succeed in any appreciable form to keep his job as HC because it's just too risky to go with someone unproven... Like Bruce Arians.

Your football takes make me cringe. Get a ****ing clue.

38-28 without McNabb. Yeah Reid sure sucks.

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Charles himself has said he wasn't healthy, etc.

Paired with the amount they used him in 2013, I'd say injury was the reason he didn't get the touches

Worst team in the league to 20 wins in 2 years ALL JOHNSON MCNABB!!!!!

Vermeil ****ed this franchise far worse than Herm, Romeo and Crennel combined.

He passed on Drew Brees, gave up the #12 overall for a damaged QB that played poorly his initial and final season, in a tenure that lasted only six seasons.

His refusal to fire Greg Robinson and the defensive staff cost this team a chance for deep playoff success.

His insistance in drafting defensive lineman with pick after pick while avoiding his aging offense line, cornerback and WR corp put the Chiefs in a hole that took nearly a decade to recover. The guy wanted Tyler Brayton over LJ when the right choice was Polamalu.

He made more excuses than any coach in franchise history for his baffling losses and decisions. IMO, he's below Mackovic, Levy, Stram, Schottenheimer and Andy Reid. And hell, at least Herm and Bill Kuharich put together a decent 2008 draft.

He is very good at prepping for games, but poor at in game adjustments and management.

He is very much like Vermiel. Will rely heavily on his DC and have little input on that side of the ball. Vermeil chose (perhaps had chosen for him - Gunther) poorly and the team suffered because of it. Reid chose wisely with Johnson and so far with Sutton.

And it seems Andy has his new Jim Johnson in Bob Sutton...now, if he can get Alex to incorporate McNabbs deep ball into his game, we might find similar success to what a Andy had in Philly with 4 straight NFC Championship games and a Super Bowl (that if he wasn't facing the cheating Patriots, he might have won)

Vermeil was a hired gun for a short term run. His goal wasn't to plan for the future. His job was to win now. His choices of DC's doomed him. It was Peterson's plan since he knew he had worn out his welcome.