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siberian khatru 10-24-2015 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 11831755)
I went to Target and Home Depot this morning because I'm married

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ROFL

DaneMcCloud 10-24-2015 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 11831771)
The Chiefs are victims of their own stupidity.

LMAO

So true

Indian Chief 10-24-2015 12:44 PM

There is no single position in baseball as vital as a QB1. Not even a front line starting pitcher is that important to the success of the team. Add to that the fact that out of 32 NFL teams only 12-14 teams actually have a good to great quarterback, and you have lack of parity that cannot be easily overcome.

Bob Dole 10-24-2015 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11831714)
There always has been. We just didn't notice it because we sucked and blamed it on imbalance...while the Twins and Indians dominated our division.

The when big market teams poach the players you developed and pay them more than your entire roster, it's not balanced.

DaveNull 10-24-2015 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 11831755)
I went to Target and Home Depot this morning because I'm married and was surprised by the number of randos that commented to me how exciting that 9th inning was last night. I wouldn't figure anyone outside of KC, Toronto, and New York would be watching on a Friday night, especially after a rain delay.

Plus the fact that it was on a random cable sports station that I didn't know I even had until the playoffs started.

dls6501 10-24-2015 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 11831826)
The when big market teams poach the players you developed and pay them more than your entire roster, it's not balanced.

People can cry about this all they want, yet baseball has more parity than any other sport.

chiefzilla1501 10-24-2015 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 11831690)
The NFL cares only about money, even at the expense of the product. MLB, at least not now, hasn't lose sight of the product.

Bingo

chiefzilla1501 10-24-2015 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 11831627)
yup you nailed it

if the Chiefs were allowed to get away with defensive holding they would be in the Super Bowl! DAM YOU ROGER GOODELL FOR NOT LETTING A MIDWEST TEAM HOLD ON DEFENSE

or maybe, just maybe, the Royals have a lot of talent for their respective sport and the Chiefs have none, that might be logical.

This isn't just about the chiefs. The nfl has given an extraordinary advantage to any team with a franchise QB. It was already big before all the pass friendly rule changes.

Again, the mlb had a chance to make a similar decision by cracking down on defensive shifts. It would have improved ratings. But they didn't.

The Bad Guy 10-24-2015 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 11831651)
There is far more parity in MLB now than in the NFL.

Sure is.

And that's a sport sans salary cap.

If you have a QB, you win in the NFL. Sure, you get a team like the Bengals, and Broncos, but Packers, Patriots are hands down going to the SB. It would take a miracle for both not to.

Pitt Gorilla 10-24-2015 01:14 PM

The "new" market inefficiency is young players. In the post steroids era, older players aren't as valuable. KC may run into an issue here as we've traded away some youth at the deadline and have, somehow, been shut out of the competitive balance drafts.

Pitt Gorilla 10-24-2015 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Chief (Post 11831817)
There is no single position in baseball as vital as a QB1. Not even a front line starting pitcher is that important to the success of the team. Add to that the fact that out of 32 NFL teams only 12-14 teams actually have a good to great quarterback, and you have lack of parity that cannot be easily overcome.

Perhaps, but the Dodgers are going to be in the playoffs every year because they can buy at least two front line starting pitchers for any particular year.

chiefzilla1501 10-24-2015 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 11831876)
Perhaps, but the Dodgers are going to be in the playoffs every year because they can buy at least two front line starting pitchers for any particular year.

The advantage teams used to have with elite hitters is gone. So yeah, you have teams that can buy their way into the playoffs but they look like the redskins. A dysfunctional mess and a ****ed up team culture. The Yankees made the playoffs, interestingly, by following more of the Royals model. Investing in scrappy players who play excellent defense.

GloucesterChief 10-24-2015 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 11831876)
Perhaps, but the Dodgers are going to be in the playoffs every year because they can buy at least two front line starting pitchers for any particular year.

Sure, but eventually the dead wood drags you down. In Baseball drafting and scouting FOs are now king.

GloucesterChief 10-24-2015 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11831880)
The advantage teams used to have with elite hitters is gone. So yeah, you have teams that can buy their way into the playoffs but they look like the redskins. A dysfunctional mess and a ****ed up team culture. The Yankees made the playoffs, interestingly, by following more of the Royals model. Investing in scrappy players who play excellent defense.

That and the collapse of the Orioles this year.

chiefzilla1501 10-24-2015 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 11831869)
The "new" market inefficiency is young players. In the post steroids era, older players aren't as valuable. KC may run into an issue here as we've traded away some youth at the deadline and have, somehow, been shut out of the competitive balance drafts.

I don't buy as much that steroids was as big of a factor. Billy beane was once again a bit of an innovator and realized you can gain advantage by stacking with defense. And now you have managers who are really crafty with their shifts. It's made it really hard now for power hitters to hit for average now that the infield is forcing them to hit more stuff opposite field.

The mlb can take that away tomorrow and you'd see a power surge. But for a baseball purist, it's not nearly as exciting as what we are watching now.


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