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milkman 10-25-2015 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11836549)
Eventually someone is going to have to be a good QB, or at least be good relative to everyone else.

I don't know where the league is going to be in 4-5 years... as the 2000's guys all age out of the league. Roethlisberger, Romo, Rivers, Eli, all of these guys are getting into their mid 30's. They don't have many prime seasons left. And even Rodgers, Flacco and Ryan are in their 30s.

That basically leaves Wilson and Luck. And probably Dalton and Newton. There aren't many "elite" QBs under 30 years old... and a lot of people on this board would argue those four guys aren't that great. I'm not sure who the next wave will be, but somebody in this league will have to be playing QB and winning games.
You look at the list of elite to near elite QBs in this league, all but Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger sat and learned for at least a half season before being given the keys, and Roethlisberger was barely asked to do anything but hand the ball off to Bettis in his first season.

The problem, I believe, as I've said before, is not talent.
It's development.

Chiefs4TheWin 10-25-2015 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11836570)
Who ya taking Sacc?

KCrockaholic 10-25-2015 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefs4TheWin (Post 11836576)
I understand the sentiment. Seriously though who are you taking 1.1 through 1.10?
A Quarterback.

Goff. Cook. Gotta take a chance at some point. The waiting game is obviously not working.

I also wanted Derek Carr, or Teddy Bridgewater. And I wanted Geno Smith. But we'll never know who works out until the chance is taken.

Ming the Merciless 10-25-2015 08:49 PM
If there is we won't draft him

KC native 10-25-2015 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 11836564)
FYP
No.

KC native 10-25-2015 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11836559)
This post shocks me.
Boykin's best comparable is Russell Wilson IMO. They have similar styles and both know how to go out and get the win.

oaklandhater 10-25-2015 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11836580)
You look at the list of elite to near elite QBs in this league, all but Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger sat and learned for at least a half season before being given the keys, and Roethlisberger was barely asked to do anything but hand the ball off to Bettis in his first season.

The problem, I believe, as I've said before, is not talent.
It's development.
Many Radio host have been saying that most Players with talented arms would rather play baseball then football same amount of money way less body trauma when you retire its why there has been a drought of talent at the QB Position.

Chiefs4TheWin 10-25-2015 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11836580)
You look at the list of elite to near elite QBs in this league, all but Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger sat and learned for at least a half season before being given the keys, and Roethlisberger was barely asked to do anything but hand the ball off to Bettis in his first season.

The problem, I believe, as I've said before, is not talent.
It's development.
Carson Palmer also falls into this category. Bens Steeler team went 15-1 that year when he took over if I remember correctly. Manning however did suffer in his first year.

KCrockaholic 10-25-2015 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 11836595)
Many Radio host have been saying that most Players with talented arms would rather play baseball then football same amount of money way less body trauma when you retire its why there has been a drought of talent at the QB Position.
MLB players actually make MORE money than NFL QB's do. MLB contracts are fully guaranteed. I'd rather play baseball too. I can do that until I'm 40. NFL is a short lived career typically.

notorious 10-25-2015 08:55 PM
We won't be drafting in the top 10.

Probably 15-20.

Baby Lee 10-25-2015 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11836536)
There's never a QB out there good enough for this ****ing fan base.

This class could be nothing but Andrew Lucks and half the fans would snub their noses up at the whole thing.
The problem I'm starting to sense is that, even with the offense preferring rules, the position is talenting itself out of the market for an immediate impact player.

Maybe 2 every 3 years competition ready. 2 every 5 years playoff ready within 5 years in the league, draft-wide.

KC native 10-25-2015 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11836600)
We won't be drafting in the top 10.

Probably 15-20.
Anywhere in the 1st round is a perfect spot to take Boykin.

oaklandhater 10-25-2015 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11836587)
No.
You will love Conner Cook by the time the draft start's.

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tk13 10-25-2015 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11836559)
This post shocks me.
That guy is a TCU fan.

KCrockaholic 10-25-2015 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11836600)
We won't be drafting in the top 10.

Probably 15-20.
You really think now the Chiefs are going to finish the season 7-2 or 6-3 down the stretch?


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