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Sassy Squatch 11-04-2015 07:19 PM

Can we resign him before Friday?

srvy 11-04-2015 07:20 PM

Word floating around is that Joe Maddon wants him in the worst way and Cubs are going to throw the bank at him.

KCUnited 11-04-2015 07:20 PM

Welcome to Chicago.

Dragonocho 11-04-2015 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rick (Post 11864325)
Gordon declining his option was a given. Now he can negotiate a better deal for himself (hopefully) with the Royals.

And doing so now allows his agent to negotiate offers off line yet in good faith and float them back to the Royals who can choose to match them or negotiate the hometown discount. He'll give KC a little but if someone throws 5/100 at him he would be a fool not to take it just like Billy Butler would have been foolish not to take the A's money.
This is his entire life. It's part of ours.

alpha_omega 11-04-2015 07:22 PM

Expected move. The next move will be the headliner.

Eleazar 11-04-2015 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 11864420)
Can we resign him before Friday?

Clubs have exclusive negotiation rights with impending free agents until free agency begins, so yes. But I'm guessing Gordon wants the league to set the market before he starts negotiating.

There seems for all the world to be mutual interest between the parties, so I'm guessing that Gordon will stay for a reasonable offer and I'm guessing the team will make him one. We'll see how crazy the market gets.

Acting like this is "Bye bye Gordon" is just ignorance, though.

alnorth 11-04-2015 07:31 PM

Yeah, Gordon at least needs to listen to what other teams offer, because if someone blows him away with an absurd offer, then he might have to reluctantly take it. If he finds out that his value on the open market is about where we think it is, then he might be willing to give the Royals a small hometown discount off that number, but he'd be a fool to not at least find out first if there's a stupid amount of money waiting for him that we're not expecting.

chop 11-04-2015 07:33 PM

Tigers need a left fielder

wazu 11-04-2015 07:34 PM

Thoughts on what it would take from the Royals? 6 years/$100 mil?

alnorth 11-04-2015 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 11864455)
Thoughts on what it would take from the Royals? 6 years/$100 mil?

The vague guess right now is 5/100 (thats the high end of the guesses, could be more like 5/90). $20MM AAV is high for a left fielder with his hitting stats, but Gordon is unusual, he's got added value in LF from his glove.

Dragonocho 11-04-2015 07:53 PM

I'm racking my brain trying to figure out the non-financial compensation number for A1 to stay. I'm guessing $1 million per year because he is a good guy and wants to be a Royals for life and maybe the same in endorsements over the course of his life. That puts the Royals in the 4/72 million or 5/90 ballpark. Could be close enough. I think the Cubs go 5/105 and close the deal. They want to win. Badly.

baitism 11-04-2015 08:03 PM

Many players have acted on money alone, and many have regretted it. Carlos Beltran, Ervin Santana, Josh Hamilton, and Albert Pujols come to mind. I get players want to make the most money, but I would accept a slightly smaller amount (10%) to stay where I want to be. I had a good chuckle at all the guys who left KC to win a championship and still haven't won one.

Dragonocho 11-04-2015 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by baitism (Post 11864503)
Many players have acted on money alone, and many have regretted it. Carlos Beltran, Ervin Santana, Josh Hamilton, and Albert Pujols come to mind. I get players want to make the most money, but I would accept a slightly smaller amount (10%) to stay where I want to be. I had a good chuckle at all the guys who left KC to win a championship and still haven't won one.

Completely with you. But if he puts the Cubs over the top, risky as it is, he's in the hall of fame and receiving blank checks the rest of his life. And playing for Joe Maddon who is persuasive.

Abba-Dabba 11-04-2015 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11864407)
Baseball contracts are guaranteed. He'd be an idiot not to do this. Even if he just signs a 4 year deal, you're talking tens of millions that will set him up for life. If he took the 1 year option and then got hurt next year, he'd cost himself an unbelievable amount of money. This is going to be his one big payday.

I'm not so optimistic that he will resign with KC. All the while saying he is willing to give a hometown discount, but does not want to leave money on the table. Giving a discount is leaving money on the table. As far as the issue of possible injury causing him to lose money. It doesn't look to be happening with his injury this past year. But I can see the prospect of injury in 2 consecutive years being an issue if that were the case. Alex will go where the money takes him. Either way, if KC does resign him I hope to god they stipulate in the contract no more stupid hats. That cat toy he had on his yesterday should make him embarrassed to be a man.

baitism 11-04-2015 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonocho (Post 11864511)
Completely with you. But if he puts the Cubs over the top, risky as it is, he's in the hall of fame and receiving blank checks the rest of his life. And playing for Joe Maddon who is persuasive.

Bartman curse will never allow the Cubs to get to the promise land.


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