Originally Posted by 65TPT (Post 12181574)

Over hyped college QBs with too much confidence. The cocky ones crash and burn.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12181594)

Yep... just like Kaepernick, Vince Young, Manziel.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12181603)

Yeah, the cockyness of brady and manning really hurt them.

Same with big ben, rivers, (insert good qb)

Elite athletes are cocky. They have to be. It comes with the territory.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12181609)

There's a difference between confidence and arrogance.

Calling Kaep, Vince, and Manziel elite is pure stupidity.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12181572)

I think confidence aND work ethic can be, not taught but maybe incorporated for lack of better term?

Confidence comes from success, success comes from prep, so it's hand in hand I guess.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12181615)

If you're having to teach those things to a 22 year old than you're screwed

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12181546)

Slow day here, let's drive some conversation.

With the Rams moving up for a qb and these young qbs coming into the league taking over for the old guard, I think there are some interesting questions to be asked.

When looking at qb prospects, which "flaws" that they might have do you consider fatal?

So now you may ask, "o.city, define fatal flaws". Well, to me, it's inconsistencies that can't be learned or corrected.

The biggest one to me for a young qb, is accuracy issues. I feel too much of that is an innate thing that either you have or you dont and I consider qbs who struggle with accuracy to have a fatal flaw.

So, which flaws do you consider fatal?

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12181546)

Slow day here, let's drive some conversation.

With the Rams moving up for a qb and these young qbs coming into the league taking over for the old guard, I think there are some interesting questions to be asked.

When looking at qb prospects, which "flaws" that they might have do you consider fatal?

So now you may ask, "o.city, define fatal flaws". Well, to me, it's inconsistencies that can't be learned or corrected.

The biggest one to me for a young qb, is accuracy issues. I feel too much of that is an innate thing that either you have or you dont and I consider qbs who struggle with accuracy to have a fatal flaw.

So, which flaws do you consider fatal?

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 12181619)

Work ethic has to be up there. It's why guys like Manziel and Geno never make it. The funny thing is fans deep down know this yet they want to draft those guys anyway. It's basically writing a ticket to throw away at least 2 seasons. "At least they tried." No, no they really didn't. These aren't lottery tickets, they're human beings.

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12181614)

Ultimately, it comes down to how well the QB can read a defense. That kind of plays into my thoughts on spread option guys - if your first or maybe second read is covered, run. They never are taught to read where the blitz is coming from or how the safeties influence the defense - just if their first read is open and then find the running lane.

Intelligence and coachability are what QB's need.