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WhiteWhale 11-02-2016 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12524699)
Just As DJLN has been saying all over the threads...

"This is why Smith sets interception records and completion records. A lot of people said Smith's low interception rate was unsustainable when he nearly set the NFL record in 2011. But they didn't understand that it was completely sustainable because it wasn't due to luck, or to some statistical anomaly, but due to scheme. Smith was throwing short. Those passes are easier to complete and less likely to be picked off. The reverse is true of guys who throw deep all the time. Low interception rates and high completion rates are unsustainable when you throw deep. If much of a QB's success is from the deep game, then that QB's success is also unsustainable."

This makes quite the claim that makes sense theoretically, but totally falls on it's face when you look at the NFL.

Primarily because it appears to define success exclusively as 'not throwing interceptions'.

While it's a BIT more complicated than that, otherwise the most conservative QB's would consistently be the most successful. I mean, there's half a century of evidence that this is a bad hypothesis.

That is to say nothing about Foles vs. Smith. I'm just not getting into that on this forum.

Ming the Merciless 11-02-2016 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12524725)
You're a ****ing idiot

That's actually really not fair to all of the other idiots around here.

This guy is on a whole notha level

Reerun_KC 11-02-2016 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12524731)
That's actually really not fair to all of the other idiots around here.

This guy is on a whole notha level

Be careful. He will be crying to the mods soon saying you hurt his feelings.

Hammock Parties 11-02-2016 05:49 PM

You posted this in another thread. No one wants to read this tripe. Four deep completions in three weeks is poverty quarterbacking.

SAUTO 11-02-2016 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12524740)
Be careful. He will be crying to the mods soon saying you hurt his feelings.

**** him.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-02-2016 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12524741)
You posted this in another thread. No one wants to read this tripe. Four deep completions in three weeks is poverty quarterbacking.

How's geno smith these days?

Hammock Parties 11-02-2016 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12524754)
How's geno smith these days?

He's still in the league which I bet is more than Alex can say in a couple years.

The Franchise 11-02-2016 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12524754)
How's geno smith these days?

Not sitting out with a non-concussion.

Sandy Vagina 11-02-2016 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12524741)
You posted this in another thread. No one wants to read this tripe. Four deep completions in three weeks is poverty quarterbacking.

"Just bury your head in the sand, and wait for your ****ing prom!"

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...760dfee14f.jpg

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-02-2016 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12524766)
Not sitting out with a non-concussion.

Getting paid over 1 million this week to take a break when the team is playing a bottom dweller.

Only in your dreams would your life be this nice, Pest.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-02-2016 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12524690)
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/1...and-the-qb-non

Since the bye week, Smith is throwing deep on 20 percent of his attempts. He is 4-for-13 for 120 yards, with one touchdown. A 30 percent completion rate might not sound like much, but that's what you expect from all quarterbacks in the league on deep balls. If anyone is consistently completing more than 40 percent, you get suspicious.


There is a slight discrepancy in the PFR and PFF deep ball definition. But for our purposes, this is negligible. Because the point is that the Chiefs did not start dialing it up more, or throwing it more, just because Foles was in the game. The game-plan was: let's challenge deep and focus on Kelce. Both Smith and Foles did just that. And both did it at a rate-per-attempt that would be among the most aggressive units in the league, if PFF's numbers are any indication.

Against the Colts, Smith was 4-of-5 for 66 yards to Travis Kelce. He targeted Kelce on 26 percent of attempts.
Foles was 3-of-5 for 35 yards to Travis Kelce. He targeted Kelce on 23 percent of attempts.

Alex Smith >> Foles > Bray

Foles can definitely beat the Jags by at least 10 if he plays smart. If he's gambling on these deep balls come Sunday without having a well-rounded game we could be in for a very, very rough afternoon.

That's all well and good, but not this Sunday, sugar-tits.

Rasputin 11-02-2016 07:03 PM

What's so bad about throwing it deep on third and long taking a chance if it get's intercepted and the defender gets tackled you were going to punt the ball on fourth down anyways so you at least increase the chance of making a big play down field. Just a thought.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-02-2016 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12524938)
What's so bad about throwing it deep on third and long taking a chance if it get's intercepted and the defender gets tackled you were going to punt the ball on fourth down anyways so you at least increase the chance of making a big play down field. Just a thought.

A large percentage of interceptions are returned for significant yards... We have one of the best punters in the league who helps us maintain field position. That's why

In58men 11-02-2016 07:20 PM

I can't wait to see Foles hit Hill for another bomb and the camera goes straight to Alex.

"Hey.....hey Alex.....did ya...did ya see that pass"?

ThaVirus 11-02-2016 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12524741)
You posted this in another thread. No one wants to read this tripe. Four deep completions in three weeks is poverty quarterbacking.

Against three of the worst defenses in the league


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