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OldSchool 01-15-2017 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12688945)
Are you ****ing serious? Your hate for Sutton is maddening. Defense didn't lose us this game today. They played overall excellent against an outstanding offense

Yeah, they sure did a great job allowing Bell to run for 170 yards and only forcing 1 punt all night long. What a fantastic defense.

-King- 01-15-2017 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 12688932)
No they didn't. They allowed the Steelers to hold the ball and score on almost every single one of their drives.

They force 1 punt all game and couldn't force the Steelers to punt in the end.

Games are won and lost on points scored vs points allowed last time I checked. Steelers scored 18 points. That's more than enough for us to win.
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tk13 01-15-2017 10:36 PM

Don't kid yourself, 16 points wasn't good enough. But you could look at a game like today and separate Von Miller and Houston.

Heck, even James Harrison, he's 195 years old, he made things happen out there. Their star players made plays and ours didn't. You could sit here for 2 hours listing off star defensive players who made impact plays in the playoffs to help their team win.

Frank Zombo made the biggest play on defense tonight.

suzzer99 01-15-2017 10:40 PM

If our pass rush could get anywhere near Ben on that last play he doesn't have time to wait for Brown to get open.

dannybcaitlyn 01-15-2017 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12688945)
Are you ****ing serious? Your hate for Sutton is maddening. Defense didn't lose us this game today. They played overall excellent against an outstanding offense

Givng up a score on every drive, allowing them to win TOP and forcing one ****ing punt is Excellent? Are you and Sutton ****ing?

OldSchool 01-15-2017 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12688967)
Games are won and lost on points scored vs points allowed last time I checked. Steelers scored 18 points. That's more than enough for us to win.
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No it wasn't, not tonight.

They essentially allowed Pitt to play keep away all night long until the time ran out.

Yeah, the offense did shit but the loss wasn't all on them. Defense only forced 1 punt all night long and couldn't get off the field if their lives depended on it.

ThaVirus 01-15-2017 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12688900)
He wasn't generating a pass rush. What does it matter.

We weren't putting any pressure on Ben, except that one time we did.

On the last play of the game in a win-or-go-home situation, you send your $20m per year pass rusher after the QB.

I honestly can't believe Sutton would even consider dropping Houston back in coverage on such an occasion. I also can't believe he lined Houston up in man coverage on Antonio Brown on a critical 3rd down early in the game either. Just inexcusable.

OldSchool 01-15-2017 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 12688977)
Don't kid yourself, 16 points wasn't good enough. But you could look at a game like today and separate Von Miller and Houston.

Heck, even James Harrison, he's 195 years old, he made things happen out there. Their star players made plays and ours didn't. You could sit here for 2 hours listing off star defensive players who made impact plays in the playoffs to help their team win.

Frank Zombo made the biggest play on defense tonight.

Precisely. This is what puts Miller ahead of Houston. Availability and the fact that he actually shows up in the games that matter. Houston was a ghost tonight, as effect in coverage as he was pass rushing.

Why Not? 01-15-2017 10:46 PM

Defense was ok I guess as far as points allowed but other than Zombo's tip, I can't think of any memorable play. We all know that if this team doesn't score on D or special teams, it can't beat a playoff team

NJChiefsFan 01-15-2017 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12688900)
He wasn't generating a pass rush. What does it matter.

Even if you don't rush Houston, you don't put him in coverage in a zone on the biggest play of the season. Boom, he ends up responsible for brown.

Rausch 01-15-2017 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12688967)
Games are won and lost on points scored vs points allowed last time I checked. Steelers scored 18 points. That's more than enough for us to win.
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It was a very Chiefs game.

WR's dropping passes.

Wide open WR's deep and Alex not ever noticing.

Penalties marching us backward and forcing long 3rd down conversions.

These problems have happened all season long, continued tonight, and are exactly why we lost...

ThaVirus 01-15-2017 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 12689021)
Givng up a score on every drive, allowing them to win TOP and forcing one ****ing punt is Excellent? Are you and Sutton ****ing?

TOP is decided by offensive and defensive efforts combined.

The offense went three and out like 5-6 times straight at one point in time.

Blame for this loss: 94% offense, 4% special teams (specifically return units), 2% defense.

-King- 01-15-2017 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 12689035)
No it wasn't, not tonight.

They essentially allowed Pitt to play keep away all night long until the time ran out.

Yeah, the offense did shit but the loss wasn't all on them. Defense only forced 1 punt all night long and couldn't get off the field if their lives depended on it.

They can do whatever they want and it wouldn't have mattered if we scored points too. It's easy to play keep away when our offense punted and committed turnovers on basically every drive.
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KChiefs1 01-15-2017 11:00 PM

ONE ****ING PUNT!!!!!





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Jimmya 01-15-2017 11:00 PM

Fire Sutton!


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