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Baby Lee 01-17-2017 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jimidollar (Post 12692700)
Looks about right. I'd say the two most glaring needs are ILB and OLine. A stud RB would be nice though.

Wow, how rare I open a thread and find so concise an answer mirroring my own immediately.

Position specialists could use an upgrade if we're sticking with the coordinators. Either their schemes are inferior, or the team is executing them subpar.

Hammock Parties 01-17-2017 12:47 AM

I'm going to assume the DL returns to form with Howard and Bailey coming back. Those guys were a lynchpin up front with DJ, and when we lost all three, the run defense bottomed out.

Other than QB, which won't be addressed until 2018 due to the dearth of QB talent in this coming draft, the Chiefs need to find a pass rusher, inside linebacker and guard in that order.

1. Houston is a gamble, Hali is done, and Ford is hit or miss. The Chiefs absolutely need to find an OLB.

2. Our ILBs are a crying shame. Average at best. If we don't find at least one blue chip ILB in the draft or FA, the defense will suffer again against top-flight rushing attacks.

3. Our guards are well below average, and that was a huge hindrance this year for our running game. Ehinger looked OK in limited duty, but shouldn't be counted upon. Fulton and Dr. Guard aren't NFL starters.

Direckshun 01-17-2017 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 12692747)
As soon as you can manage a response to this interaction. To be fair, I did ask for a response before you made this one.

Nah. I'm good.

Sorter 01-17-2017 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12692750)
Nah. I'm good.

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Hammock Parties 01-17-2017 01:01 AM

Someone is seriously suggesting we spend more money on Derrick Johnson and wait for him to recover?

He's done.

Hali and DJ should be flushed. Colquitt, too. He's making too much money next year considering our cap constraints.

Be the Steelers. Be the Pats. Be the Packers. Dump your aging players. New blood.

Baby Lee 01-17-2017 01:10 AM

QB

4/10 - Alex is the organization's guy, and a lot is invested in making him a cog in an intricate machine. Not a lot behind him. Always be on a keen lookout for draft talent. Trainers, coaches and philosophy seem to be a likely hidden deficit.

RB

10/10 - West fallen off a cliff, Don't want to stretch Hill too thin, Ware can't carry the entire load. We need a reliable rock toter to balance the system reliably

WR

7/10

TE

2/10 - Two talented starters with potential, but lingering correctible brain farts.

OT

5/10 - We need a blue chipper, but we'll probably rely on improved health and cohesion.

OG

8/10 - Erhinger flashed, but time will tell how he returns, the rest is meh

C

2/10

NT

Who knows - Poe likely gone, possibly disgruntled if he stays

DE

1/10

OLB

7/10

ILB

10/10

CB

2/10

S

2/10 - Berry will be paid, but we still have too many big breakdowns for the talent level

ST

1/10

Nickhead 01-17-2017 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12692752)
Someone is seriously suggesting we spend more money on Derrick Johnson and wait for him to recover?

He's done.

Hali and DJ should be flushed. Colquitt, too. He's making too much money next year considering our cap constraints.

Be the Steelers. Be the Pats. Be the Packers. Dump your aging players. New blood.

as long as anyone we have does not get traded to a playoff caliber team. the last thing the chiefs need to do is let go of someone and they help another contender excel above us. :D

cdcox 01-17-2017 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12692752)
Someone is seriously suggesting we spend more money on Derrick Johnson and wait for him to recover?

He's done.

Hali and DJ should be flushed. Colquitt, too. He's making too much money next year considering our cap constraints.

Be the Steelers. Be the Pats. Be the Packers. Dump your aging players. New blood.

:clap:

cdcox 01-17-2017 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 12692760)
as long as anyone we have does not get traded to a playoff caliber team. the last thing the chiefs need to do is let go of someone and they help another contender excel above us. :D

Better to lose a guy with one year left in the tank than to pay an overinflated salary for 3 years so they can play for one.

Nickhead 01-17-2017 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 12692767)
Better to lose a guy with one year left in the tank than to pay an overinflated salary for 3 years so they can play for one.

i could be wrong, but i believe dallas signed alfred morris simply so they didn't have to face him twice a year :D

St. Patty's Fire 01-17-2017 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12692752)
Someone is seriously suggesting we spend more money on Derrick Johnson and wait for him to recover?

He's done.

Hali and DJ should be flushed. Colquitt, too. He's making too much money next year considering our cap constraints.

Be the Steelers. Be the Pats. Be the Packers. Dump your aging players. New blood.

Yah. Appreciate what they have provided for us over the years, but loyalty doesn't get you anywhere in sports. What they were 5 years ago has no bearing on what they are now. They could and should be upgraded on.

mcaj22 01-17-2017 05:21 AM

QB, ILB, DE

those linebackers and replacement DEs we had for our injured starters got absolutely slaughtered by Bell.

Red Dawg 01-17-2017 06:17 AM

The OL sucks and sucked in many games. Can't run the ball for crap and let's face it Smith must have perfect blocking to be good. Having him sucks. He can't put up points on the worst defenses in the league. That was proven this year. We must get better on the OL or the offense will be crap again next year. We also need to find better RBs. We have nothing special there.

Warrior5 01-17-2017 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12692809)
The OL sucks and sucked in many games. Can't run the ball for crap and let's face it Smith must have perfect blocking to be good. Having him sucks. He can't put up points on the worst defenses in the league. That was proven this year. We must get better on the OL or the offense will be crap again next year. We also need to find better RBs. We have nothing special there.

Mirroring this, and NOT making excuses for AS, we MUST improve the O-line. Run-blocking sucks; our 3rd-down conversion rate was atrocious, and how many of those were 3rd and shorts where we had to pass simply because we couldn't bang out 1 frickin' yard for a 1st down.

I don't know the root cause... unskilled O-linemen, goofy run schemes, or a combo of both? Bottom line: we can't run for 2 yards when we need to convert.

Deberg_1990 01-17-2017 07:01 AM

I just don't get the Poe love?

What does he do well? He doesn't rush the passer and the Chiefs run D is crap.

To me he's a Jag.


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