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jspchief 01-17-2017 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by go bo (Post 12694508)
was she pregnant?

can he run really really fast?

does his name lend itself to chants? like TYYYY-REEEK, TYYYY-REEK which can be heard at arrowhead from time to time?

did the girl pay for their meal?

Sadly, he's probably the best fit for Reid out of the RBs coming out his year.

Discuss Thrower 01-17-2017 11:39 PM

Nobody is going to call Ware's performance this year great by any stretch of the imagination, but he still had nearly 1000 yards and got 4.3 per carry. That's the league average over the last fifteen years.

Also, recall he was a 6th round pick for Seattle that KC got off the street three months after he was cut. You don't have to expend draft selections for RBs.

SAGA45 01-18-2017 08:15 AM

I don't know where this kid will land in the draft or if he'll be drafted at all. But I'd like him to have a KC Arrowhead on his helmet when the smoke clears.

loochy 01-18-2017 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 12694285)
Chiefs need a chain-mover, punisher, clock eater....this is him...

I think ware can do that IF we could block worth a damn or actually stick to the run.

However, I'm not against a mid to late round RB pick...we need one. I'm not a fan of West back there.

SAGA45 01-18-2017 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 12694860)
I think ware can do that IF we could block worth a damn or actually stick to the run.

However, I'm not against a mid to late round RB pick...we need one. I'm not a fan of West back there.

Ware can do it...he has done it. But when/if he goes down...there isn't another back in the stable to takeover that sort of role or workload.

This kid reminds me a lot of Ware with about 3/4 cup more power/tackle-breaking ability and breakaway speed. Would love him and Ware as a 1-2 punch similar to Henry/Murray in Tennessee giving Reid a power run option when the Chiefs have a lead and/or want to devour clock.

BlackHelicopters 01-18-2017 08:47 AM

Can he hold as effectively as Fisher?

SAGA45 01-18-2017 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 12694877)
Can he hold as effectively as Fisher?

ROFL I don't know but he will give LB's second thoughts next time they blitz. Kid delivers a nice pop in pass pro/blitz pickup

KChiefs1 01-18-2017 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12694449)
Andy Reid doesn't prefer those type of RBs.

He wouldn't even have used Ware if Charles wouldn't have imploded.

He wants fast edge-runners that are part receiver.



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Demonpenz 01-18-2017 02:09 PM

Buckhalter was a north and south guy as well

Nickel D 01-18-2017 02:35 PM

Can he play left tackle without getting called for holding penalties?

DJ's left nut 01-18-2017 02:40 PM

Reminds me of Shaun Draughn.

This is not a compliment.

Power backs can be effective if they're quick enough to the hole to keep guys from coming down the line and taking their legs out from under them. I'm not sure I see that initial speed to the whole that I'd want to see. He just seems to take a looooooong time to get moving.

And the team has a RB in Ware that's close to a chain mover than they do a true explosive threat. If you keep Ware, his complement needs to be the faster, more explosive nature and a true receiving threat out of the backfield. Smith would make Ware redundant.

Mr. Laz 01-18-2017 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 12694684)
Yep. Wouldn't matter who we have at RB, Reid isn't running between the tackles.

Reid will if he has to but it certainly isn't his first choice.

When making the roster up he keeps cutting the power backs and keeping the smaller, faster variety. Wasn't even Ware still on the practice squad until Charles got hurt?

Iowanian 01-18-2017 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12694314)
THERE'S A DRAFT FORUM FOR THIS! YOU'RE RUINING IT!!

honestly, it might be a nice change of pace to have plenty of draft and prospect discussion on the main page...leave the madden champions to the draft forum, so that the main page has more to discuss than b holes.

Mr. Laz 01-18-2017 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 12695396)
honestly, it might be a nice change of pace to have plenty of draft and prospect discussion on the main page...leave the madden champions to the draft forum, so that the main page has more to discuss than b holes.

THIS^

people are depressed about the season, moving on to the draft will be a good thing

Having all the non-mock draft stuff in the Lounge is a good thing. imo

SAGA45 01-18-2017 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12695382)
Reminds me of Shaun Draughn.

This is not a compliment.

Power backs can be effective if they're quick enough to the hole to keep guys from coming down the line and taking their legs out from under them. I'm not sure I see that initial speed to the whole that I'd want to see. He just seems to take a looooooong time to get moving.

And the team has a RB in Ware that's close to a chain mover than they do a true explosive threat. If you keep Ware, his complement needs to be the faster, more explosive nature and a true receiving threat out of the backfield. Smith would make Ware redundant.

Smith would be great depth...never said he'd be a compliment. This was Ware's first season as the No. 1 back and he didn't make it completely through ...concussion...ribs.

I like West... did an article on him as a rookie when it wasn't a gaurantee he'd even make it to training camp....but the offense stagnated with Ware out and I'd argue Ware was never the same after the concussion.

I don't quite agree with the Draughn comparison. I actually see more Thomas Rawls in Smith...a reckless wreckingball...the violence he runs with. I also see cutback vision and a nice subtle ability to slip tackles when not seeking contact.

You're not going to get much flash with Smith but you will have a defense not at all looking forward to tackling him in the second half. Smith is a guy I could very much imagine Bienemy lobbying for in meetings, especially if he goes undrafted.


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