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TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-29-2017 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12715394)
Tiger hates trolling but trolls a clear anti Alex thread.

How fitting

Are you denying that we couldn't have won it outright with a TD in Denver or that his 3rd down % was awful by previous standards?

Rasputin 01-29-2017 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12715787)
Are you denying that we couldn't have won it outright with a TD in Denver or that his 3rd down % was awful by previous standards?

See you totally agree that Alex Smith sucks at being good. He just not that good.


He never gets his team off to a good start we don't get touchdowns on opening drives because Alex Smith doesn't get the drive going. He is not good a matriculating the ball down the field with his dink and dunks that don't get us first downs that sustain drives that lead to touchdowns.

jspchief 01-29-2017 01:47 PM

He plays like not losing his job is more important than winning.

I also think he can't read defenses pre-snap.

Chief Northman 01-29-2017 01:54 PM

Grow a pair and call a few more of your own plays. Keep the ball more on read option.

Mephistopheles Janx 01-29-2017 02:00 PM

Smith doesn't take risks because he lacks the talent to make up for those mistakes.

He is the Anti-Brett Favre.

Warrick 01-29-2017 02:42 PM

There are more haters on this site than true fans, which makes it difficult to want to read your posts. I fall somewhere in the middle, if there was a better free agent out there I'd be on board but there isn't. So, I'm for drafting a qb high in the draft this year and grooming him until he superceds Alex Smith, even if that's day 1 but even that is unlikely because Alex is a qb that can win you the divison, even next year. Alex is a smart qb who needs to be set free, Andy needs to let Alex call most of these plays at the line of scrimmage in a hurry up offence. I've watched some good football from Alex when the defense is playing on its heels.

crazycoffey 01-29-2017 02:42 PM

Beryllium

It is time to draft a QB

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-29-2017 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12715428)
Why can't he be taught to look down field like the other great QBs ? That's his only problem. Lets blame it on the O-line. Sooo many times receivers are running wide open and he's not looking for them.

Let's not. The O-line can not block AND pass the ball for him.

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Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx (Post 12715913)
Smith doesn't take risks because he lacks the talent to make up for those mistakes.

He is the Anti-Brett Favre.

He's such a low scoring QB, he can't afford to give up an interception, so he remains a low scoring QB who can't afford to give up an interception.

rico 01-29-2017 02:58 PM

Having Alex as our QB is like...forfeiting the position altogether.

jspchief 01-29-2017 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Warrick (Post 12716014)
There are more haters on this site than true fans, which makes it difficult to want to read your posts. I fall somewhere in the middle, if there was a better free agent out there I'd be on board but there isn't. So, I'm for drafting a qb high in the draft this year and grooming him until he superceds Alex Smith, even if that's day 1 but even that is unlikely because Alex is a qb that can win you the divison, even next year. Alex is a smart qb who needs to be set free, Andy needs to let Alex call most of these plays at the line of scrimmage in a hurry up offence. I've watched some good football from Alex when the defense is playing on its heels.

This site has always been more negative/critical. It's what attracted me and others. The are plenty of forums that have a more positive fanbase.

RippedmyFlesh 01-29-2017 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12715428)
Why can't he be taught to look down field like the other great QBs ? That's his only problem. Lets blame it on the O-line. Sooo many times receivers are running wide open and he's not looking for them.

To me those are good calls by reid. You get guys wide open in the nfl and you are calling good plays. I think we would be ok with a few more picks if we were taking shots downfield. Big deal a 50 yard pass gets picked its like a punt. When a 5 yard pass gets picked it switches the field.

RippedmyFlesh 01-29-2017 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Warrick (Post 12716014)
There are more haters on this site than true fans, .

If you spent time here you'd know true fan is an insult here. It is settling for 1 and done and not drafting a qb because it's dangerous.

Bowser 01-29-2017 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 12716015)
Beryllium

It is time to draft a QB

A Simplex3 reference. Well done.

https://media.giphy.com/media/I7U8SSKUVsRoI/giphy.gif

chiefzilla1501 01-29-2017 04:50 PM

I'll contribute to both threads and like that you're doing this. Because I don't hate Alex Smith, but I don't think he's the answer.

And his biggest problem is his lack of urgency. He thinks he should be managing games. So he refuses to play 4 full quarters. If the defense does its job, Alex waits till the 4Q to strike. If they don't, to his credit, he can keep up in a shootout, but he becomes a terrible QB when he's protecting a big lead. Also to his credit, he's become a good late 4Q QB, but he's not elite.

But it will never make sense to me why he doesn't play every single quarter like it was the 4th quarter in a close game. And that formula is never going to work in the AFC when you're constantly facing heavyweight clutch QBs. And it sucks, because when Alex is aggressive, so many things open up. The OL protects better and the running game gets going because defenses aren't crowding the box. The WRs get excited about being allowed to make plays. He gets TDs because Alex is a terrible red zone QB but can actually score TDs from shots downfield.

And that mentality isn't going to change at this point in his career. Much as I had hoped Andy Reid would turn him around.

mschiefs1984 01-29-2017 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12716210)
I'll contribute to both threads and like that you're doing this. Because I don't hate Alex Smith, but I don't think he's the answer.

And his biggest problem is his lack of urgency. He thinks he should be managing games. So he refuses to play 4 full quarters. If the defense does its job, Alex waits till the 4Q to strike. If they don't, to his credit, he can keep up in a shootout, but he becomes a terrible QB when he's protecting a big lead. Also to his credit, he's become a good late 4Q QB, but he's not elite.

But it will never make sense to me why he doesn't play every single quarter like it was the 4th quarter in a close game. And that formula is never going to work in the AFC when you're constantly facing heavyweight clutch QBs. And it sucks, because when Alex is aggressive, so many things open up. The OL protects better and the running game gets going because defenses aren't crowding the box. The WRs get excited about being allowed to make plays. He gets TDs because Alex is a terrible red zone QB but can actually score TDs from shots downfield.

And that mentality isn't going to change at this point in his career. Much as I had hoped Andy Reid would turn him around.

The lack of urgency is what bugs me to.

Not just with Alex but with the offense as a whole. But I will say that it's hard for the other offensive players to have a sense of urgency if the QB doesn't. So it starts there.

I also think a lot of this falls on Reid as well


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