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Dante84 04-05-2017 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12810324)
I agree, but it totally depends on who is on the board.

Let's say they value Trubisky, Mahones and Watson equally. The Jets take Trubisky and the Texans move up to 17 for one of the other 2. Only 1 QB you like is left.

I'd love for the team to make a statement on the position and move up for one.

Make a confidence move with the kid right away.

Man, I don't give a shit about making a statement on the position, as much as I do that they get the "right" guy.

If the right guy is there, go ****ing get him and put your dick on the table. If it's the last one of a group, who may or may not be a hit, then I'd rather we not waste extra picks.

Dante84 04-05-2017 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12810334)
If it's him or Watson, I'd take Foster every time.

I don't think either of them make it there, but Foster is pretty damn impressive and his attitude (i.e. he might be a dick) is okay for a linebacker. I'm fine with a surly asshole playing LB for me - his job is to hurt people.

James Harrison is a great example of this.

Dunerdr 04-05-2017 11:44 AM

Get "the guy" move up only if he's "the guy". If he's not I wouldn't be afraid to load up on more picks if this class is what they say it is. We don't have alot of needs but there's got to be alot of wants.

Sandy Vagina 04-06-2017 05:31 AM

Curious about other KC fan opinion on the current ILBs. We always hear how "they suck", and "we need upgrades".. but never a collective, defined summary of the ILBs.. strengths and weaknesses.

The run D was pretty much shit last year, I think we can all agree to that much. However, we lost Bailey and Howard up front. Poe was also not the Poe we have loved years ago. March with his usual MIA. Then later, DJ, who wasn't looking too good anyway.

So, what do they really have, currently?

March - probably good range/cover guy, if ever healthy? any good vs the run?
D.J. - can't really envision him being much help this yr.. hope he can help.
DJA - fast, yet seems like he could be a thumper.. hit the gaps hard, and speed to go sideline to sideline.. but recognition skills?
Wilson - does he do anything well? I don't think he sucks.. but is there any real hope?

Very curious to know what the fans think of these guys. Really want to know what the coaches project for them. Want more of a thick run thumper?... wildly athletic cover LB? or simply one of both?

If you added a 2nd rd LB (let's say McMillan, balanced) AND 5th rd LB (let's say Jordan Evans, excellent cover LB) in this draft.. who and how many of the current LBs would likely be atop your cut list?

Dunerdr 04-06-2017 08:12 AM

I'm curious as to how the line backers we have would fare with better d line play

DJ's left nut 04-06-2017 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12811739)
March - probably good range/cover guy, if ever healthy? any good vs the run?
D.J. - can't really envision him being much help this yr.. hope he can help.
DJA - fast, yet seems like he could be a thumper.. hit the gaps hard, and speed to go sideline to sideline.. but recognition skills?
Wilson - does he do anything well? I don't think he sucks.. but is there any real hope?

March - y'know, for all we hear about his athleticism, he's actually pretty shitty in coverage because his instincts are AWFUL. He simply looks lost out there. And his supporters will still insist that it's inexperience but I'm not seeing it. Wilson had a better feel for the position from his first day on the field than March has after 2 years in the system. He's just a bad football player. Good athlete, bad player. And ultimately that's all secondary to the fact that he can't get on the field anyway.

If he were healthy and mediocre, I'd tolerate him (we'll talk about that guy next). If he were good but injury prone, I'd even put up with that. But he's average on his best days and can't be counted on. He'd be my first cut among the linebackers and it's not even close. I'd rather have Mauga back.

Wilson - Here's your healthy mediocrity. No, he doesn't do anything terribly well but he also doesn't do anything really poorly. He's overexposed as your Mike but as the Ted, he's fine. He's getting better at attacking the line instead of trying to pick through it. He's never going to be really aggressive out there but he's no longer embarrassing about it. He's a fine player.

Alexander - A supercharged March. Better athlete, better hitter, bigger player. But like March, he's just not a guy that appears to flow with the game terribly well. Now unlike March, I think he's progressing and may still have a little more to offer. And unlike March, he's usually healthy. You could do worse for your #4 ILB but I think you're in trouble if he's anything higher than #3.

DJ - DJ was slipping before he was hurt. Expect the worst, hope for the best. His days as a difference maker are over and there's a good chance that any return just looks similar to Willie Mays falling over himself in the OF for the Mets. There's nothing to think about here - mark him down as 'absent' and if you get anything from him ever again that's just gravy.

The team needs an ILB and arguably two. Too bad BossChief ****ed up the draft and didn't get us any...

The Franchise 04-06-2017 09:54 AM

I think Wilson and Alexander are good as the #3 and #4 ILBs on this team. March can't be counted on for shit and who knows what DJ has left. I was hoping that we would either sign Hodges or trade for Kendricks....and then draft one on the 2nd day of the draft.

O.city 04-06-2017 09:56 AM

Need 2 or 3 ilbs. All ours suck

kccrow 04-06-2017 12:55 PM

I agree with djs left nut. We need a couple. I was hoping of would fill the silb role in fa on the cheap cuz this draft is mostly Will s

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Sandy Vagina 04-06-2017 05:51 PM

Good feedback. :thumb:

Chiefshrink 04-06-2017 08:17 PM

No way Foster falls far BUT IF we are fortunate enough he gets in striking range I say we trade up JUST for him IMHO. Now with that said, what is your definition of striking range ????

Dante84 04-06-2017 09:21 PM

If he gets to 18 somehow, I trade up all day.

Bewbies 04-06-2017 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fahrenheit (Post 12810233)
With a draft this deep, you don't trade away picks to move up. That's bad business. If anything, you trade back to acquire more - that would be good business.

Of all the years to trade up in the draft, this is not the one.

At what point does it make sense to have so many picks you don't have roster spots for them all?

kccrow 04-07-2017 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 12813459)
At what point does it make sense to have so many picks you don't have roster spots for them all?

I don't understand why people keep saying this. Can the chiefs not upgrade reserves at te, ot, og, rb, wr, silb, and so forth? There's room for guys to take spots from the likes of Harris/oshaughnessy, march, witzmann, fulton, albert wilson and the like.

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Jakemall 04-07-2017 10:07 AM

Definitely a ILB in the 1st or 2nd round if you don't get the guy you like in the first. I think you pick up another ILB in the 4th or 5th. Maybe Anthony Walker Jr.?


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