Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 12827925)

The only people who thought that were the typical idiots of this board. ROFL

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12827930)

Most of us were just hoping, more than anything.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12827916)

If the Chiefs had any belief that Aaron Murray was going to make Alex Smith expendable, they wouldn't have taken D'Anthony Thomas in the 4th and just hoped/prayed that this franchise signal caller fell to them a round later.

You know what teams think about quarterbacks based on where they draft them. This isn't a position they're willing to **** around and game the system on because if they read the board wrong, the consequences are just too great. That's why you can say the Cowboys just got ****ing lucky with Dak - he wasn't anywhere near the top of their board but Jerrah was dead set on taking a QB and by the 4th, that was who he had available to him. If Cody Kessler was still available he may well have taken him - he wanted a quarterback and that was the guy left standing. The 'boys got lucky.

If you think you see a starting QB on the board, you take him by the end of the 2nd - period. Otherwise you're just hoping you get lucky with a turd you can polish into a competent game manager.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12827911)

How I felt about Murray vs. how the Chiefs felt about Murray are two different things. I've admitted over and over again to being wrong about Murray.

If somebody like me that thought he could be the QBOTF can clearly see they never felt the same way, how can you not?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12827916)

If you think you see a starting QB on the board, you take him by the end of the 2nd - period. Otherwise you're just hoping you get lucky with a turd you can polish into a competent game manager.

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12827928)

Andy Reid has not 'pushed' the development of any young QB since he's been here.

You can tell when a team is really trying to push the success of a young QB.

We haven't.

Every young QB we've draft under Reid is gone except Bray. I believe that's because Bray has been so easy to keep. I don't believe he even used(because he was on IR) a roster spot until 2016. He's our token young guy to keep around so the Chiefs can look like they are trying.

If we don't pick a QB this year OR set up a play to get a QB next year(ie trade for more picks next year etc.) then that is all you need to know about what Reid really thinks about Alex Smith.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12827940)

I agree Laz.

If the Chiefs don't take a QB in the first 2 rounds, it's not trying. And this year guys like Peterman will be taken in rd 2.

Enough with the bullshit. If the Chiefs show us that they don't care next week, I won't be wasting time watching the Chiefs on Sundays until they do.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12827940)

I agree Laz.

If the Chiefs don't take a QB in the first 2 rounds, it's not trying. And this year guys like Peterman will be taken in rd 2.

Enough with the bullshit. If the Chiefs show us that they don't care next week, I won't be wasting time watching the Chiefs on Sundays until they do.

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12827949)

What will you do if the Chiefs trade out of the 1st rd this year for another 2nd rd pick and a 1st round pick next year?

or something similar

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12827954)

They won't get that much.

Dorsey took a bag of magic beans to move out of the 1st last year. Why should we expect he'll suddenly get an extra 1st for his troubles?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12827951)

Too much smoke around Mahomes at this point, IMO.

If they want him, they have to REALLY want him because I don't know that he'll even see 20 at this point. It may take your 1st, 2nd and next year's 2nd to get up ahead of Arizona if you really want Mahomes. I can't tell you how much I hated hearing the positive reports coming out of their camp because now you're talking about getting all the way up to Cleveland or NO's picks and those guys already have multiple 1sts so they may be all the more difficult to deal with.

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12827970)

He wouldn't be gaining an extra 1st

He would be swapping a 1st this year for a 1st next year

gaining an extra 2nd rounder this year

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12827986)

I'm telling you man. Colts at 14. Dorsey has talked to Ballard about something. He has to.
The draft value chart shows that we could trade 27, our 3rd and a 2018 2nd for the value of pick 14.

I think they could set that deal up and see if Arizona takes one. If Mahomes or Watson is there, do it.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12827993)

Watson sucks.

If Mahomes makes it past Arizona, you may still have to move up that high to stay ahead of Houston but when I say there's too much smoke, I mean I'm pretty damn worried that he doesn't get past Arizona.