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kccrow 04-24-2017 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12836790)
Hey Crow.....if you weren't trading up for Mahomes and had to sit at 27....who would you have taken?

Takkarist McKinley at 27.
Nathan Peterman at 59.
Anthony Walker at 91.
Jarron Jones at 104.

or

Takkarist McKinley at 27.
DeShone Kizer at 33 (Trade w/CLE 59, 91, and 2018 3rd).
Walker at 104.

kccrow 04-24-2017 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12837149)
No way Harris makes it to the 2nd.

Kamara there is more realistic.

I very much thinks he does. Maybe he doesn't fall quite that far, but I have a very strong sense that he's going to tumble quite a bit. Athletic scores were atrocious on top of the sense that he doesn't take well to coaching and changes in scheme. It's going to hit him like a rock.

BryanBusby 04-24-2017 06:28 PM

I would say it's justified if Harris slipped into Round 2, but he'll probably go late first.

staylor26 04-24-2017 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12837531)
I very much thinks he does. Maybe he doesn't fall quite that far, but I have a very strong sense that he's going to tumble quite a bit. Athletic scores were atrocious on top of the sense that he doesn't take well to coaching and changes in scheme. It's going to hit him like a rock.

I should've said to our 2nd. No later than early 2nd IMO.

BryanBusby 04-24-2017 08:03 PM

Here's my gay dumb first round mock

1. Cleveland Browns - Myles Garrett, DE/OLB Texas A&M

I'm not as high on Garrett, but they seem locked in on him.

2. San Francisco 49ers - Solomon Thomas, DE Stanford

SF takes a local kid with a lot of potential.

3. Carolina Panthers (f/CHI) - Leonard Fournette, RB LSU

The Panthers are locked in at RB, so they might as well get the best one.

4. Jacksonville Jaguars - O.J. Howard, TE Alabama

The Jaguars went after Thomas a few years ago and he was a huge bust, as expected. Rivera is more of a #2 guy, so they should land a #1.

5. Tennessee Titans - Marshon Lattimore, CB Ohio State

Titans look to make 2016 major weakness into a strength.

6. New York Jets - Malik Hooker, S Ohio State

The Jets need playmakers in general. Hooker should be a good one.

7. San Diego Chargers - Jamal Adams, S LSU

They should of kept Weddle.

8. Cleveland Browns (f/CHI,CAR) - Mitchell Trubisky, QB North Carolina

9. Cincinnati Bengals - Jonathan Allen, DT Alabama

They Bengals held onto Peko for too long and he's finally gone. They need someone strong to line up next to Atkins. DE could happen too, but this is a nice draft for that.

10. Buffalo Bills - Reuben Foster, LB Alabama

Being crazy should have him fitting in well with the Buffalo fanbase.

11. New Orleans Saints - Derek Barnett, DE/OLB Tennessee

Saints add some much needed pass-rush.

12. Chicago Bears (f/CLE) - Deshaun Watson, QB Clemson

Flush with extra picks to fill in gaps, the Bears add the QB they wanted all along.

13. Arizona Cardinals - Gareon Coney, CB Ohio State

The #2 CB spot has been a major hole.

14. Philadelphia Eagles - Christian McCaffrey, RB/WR Stanford

**** this kid and team.

15. Indianapolis Colts - Cam Robinson, OT Alabama

The Colts right side of the Offensive Line sucks. Robinson should start immediately at Right Tackle and push mediocre LT Castonzo.

16. Baltimore Ravens - Mike Williams, WR Clemson

Flacco needs more weapons!!!!1!1@1

17. Washington Redskins - Hasson Reddick, LB Temple

Ironic that the guy with the Muslim sounding name goes to the Washington.

18. Tennessee Titans - John Ross, WR Washington

They give Mariota a weapon.

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Dalvin Cook, RB Florida State

They seem like a lock; kinda like his dogs on their chains

20. Denver Broncos - Garett Bolles, OT Utah

**** the Broncos.

21. Detroit Lions - Taco Charlton, DE Michigan

No way they pass up on a local kid.

22. Kansas City Chiefs (f/MIA) - Patrick Mahomes II, QB Texas Tech

The Chiefs need a QB and don't need ten picks. The Dolphins want more picks and can get who they want later on.

23. New York Giants - Jarrad Davis, LB Florida

The Giants will continue to invest in that front 7.

24. Oakland Raiders - Kevin King, CB Washington

Rumor is they're going to draft King.

25. Houston Texans - Obi Melifonwu, S Connecticut

Too bad for them, they missed out on all the QB's. They do need a couple new starters in the secondary.

26. Seattle Seahawks - Ryan Ramczyk, OT Wisconsin

They need at least two new starters on the Offensive Line.

27. Miami Dolphins (f/KC) - Forrest Lamp, OG Western Kentucky

With Albert leaving, they have a hole at LG since gasmask weed man had to move to LT. Lamp should be a long-time starter at LG.

28. Dallas Cowboys - Charles Harris, DE Missouri

They need to find a pass-rush.

29. Green Bay Packers - Tyus Bowser, DE/OLB Houston

Packers take the upside.

30. Pittsburgh Steelers - Davis Webb, QB California

Steelers get a Ben replacement.

31. Atlanta Falcons - Jordan Willis, DE/OLB Kstate

Falcons could use more pass-rush.

32. New Orleans Saints - David Njoku, TE Miami

Giving dickhands Coby Fleener money in FA a year ago was a mistake. They should fix it.

milkman 04-26-2017 04:56 AM

From everything I've read, I don't think there's any way that Watson fits Arian's offense.

kccrow 04-26-2017 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12839630)
From everything I've read, I don't think there's any way that Watson fits Arian's offense.

Well, here's two things: Arians is great friends with Watson's Clemson coach, Dabo Swinney (stemming back to Arians 1-year stint as Alabama's OC in 1997) and Watson spent the offseason working out with Carson Palmer's brother Jordan. There's also been a ton of smoke since early February about the Cards wanting to get this kid. You could also consider his recent off-the-cuff comments about how he likes how Arizona's uniforms look on him in Madden if you're into that kind of shit.

On the flip side, I do agree that he doesn't seem to fit the traditional Arians QB profile that well. That being said, what exactly is his profile? He's kind of been spoon fed some good QBs over the years in Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Andrew Luck, and Carson Palmer. The only one he had significant input on bringing in was Palmer.

milkman 04-26-2017 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12839633)
Well, here's two things: Arians is great friends with Watson's Clemson coach, Dabo Swinney (stemming back to Arians 1-year stint as Alabama's OC in 1997) and Watson spent the offseason working out with Carson Palmer's brother Jordan. There's also been a ton of smoke since early February about the Cards wanting to get this kid. You could also consider his recent off-the-cuff comments about how he likes how Arizona's uniforms look on him in Madden if you're into that kind of shit.

On the flip side, I do agree that he doesn't seem to fit the traditional Arians QB profile that well. That being said, what exactly is his profile? He's kind of been spoon fed some good QBs over the years in Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Andrew Luck, and Carson Palmer. The only one he had significant input on bringing in was Palmer.

I don't think his friendship with Swinney, or the training with Jordan Palmer influence this in any way.

And that Madden stuff.......No.

From what little I know, Mahomes is a better fit.
They could also roll the dice and hope that Kizor is there for them in the second round, who, from everything I've read, is probably the prototypical Arien's QB from a physical standpoint.

Direckshun 04-26-2017 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12839643)
I don't think his friendship with Swinney, or the training with Jordan Palmer influence this in any way.

And that Madden stuff.......No.

From what little I know, Mahomes is a better fit.
They could also roll the dice and hope that Kizor is there for them in the second round, who, from everything I've read, is probably the prototypical Arien's QB from a physical standpoint.

Pioli and Kirk Ferentz say hi.

milkman 04-26-2017 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12839693)
Pioli and Kirk Ferentz say hi.

Scott Pioli?

Do you even think before you type?

The Franchise 04-26-2017 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12839643)
I don't think his friendship with Swinney, or the training with Jordan Palmer influence this in any way.

And that Madden stuff.......No.

From what little I know, Mahomes is a better fit.
They could also roll the dice and hope that Kizor is there for them in the second round, who, from everything I've read, is probably the prototypical Arien's QB from a physical standpoint.

I could see the Cards trading up in the 2nd for Kizer. He'd be a good fit there as well.


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