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Direckshun 04-25-2017 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 12838942)
Taken in context with that mock, that was them being very nice.

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12839123)
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Direckshun 04-25-2017 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12838842)
Absolutely fantastic! No offense Direkshun, but your pre-draft predictions have not come close, so we aren't taking Peterman.

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Originally Posted by kc79 (Post 12839001)
Are his mock drafts ever right? If not, I love it. We'll pick up Ford's option and draft a QB in the first. Please no Peterman. He has no arm strength

My last 2015 mock was pretty freaking accurate. I went CB in the first (Kevin Johnson instead of Marcus Peters), C in the 2nd (I don't remember who instead of Mitch Morse), even explicitly selected Conley in the 3rd and O'Shaughnessy late in the draft.

I mocked a ton in 2016 but I didn't follow the draft too intently that year. I didn't even have an "official endorsement" -- which, you know, who gives a shit, but it's just an indication that I was checked out last draft season.

I'm off a ton as much as any fan is, though. By no means do I think I'm Nostradamus, but I do think I have a little idea as to what Dorsey/Reid are looking for after following them in the draft way too intently since 2013...

RealSNR 04-25-2017 07:03 PM

Honestly, the majority of my anger is directed at Peterman in the 2nd.

If that were to happen, I wouldn't trust Reid or Dorsey anymore when it comes to QBs and this team. They'd be in the same ****ing boat as Carl and Fat Scott.

I sat by when they said Alex was the best thing for the team. I sat by as THEY sat on him and treated him like a real franchise QB, passing on Derek Carr and admitting later that they liked him a lot but felt tied to Alex ****ing Smith. And now that they want to move beyond him, the best they can do is Peterman in the 2nd? To me, that screams that they were never serious about life after Alex at all.

We were told not to hamstring the new regime with the mistakes of the past. Carl's faults aren't the fault of Dorsey and Reid, and those guys need time. That's what we were told.

Well, it's now the 5th draft of theirs. Now the mistakes of the past are directly the responsibility of the new regime if they keep up this ****ing garbage.

Nate Peterman isn't a franchise QB or even a consolation prize QB. He's a goddamn INSULT.

Direckshun 04-25-2017 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12839259)
Honestly, the majority of my anger is directed at Peterman in the 2nd.

If that were to happen, I wouldn't trust Reid or Dorsey anymore when it comes to QBs and this team. They'd be in the same ****ing boat as Carl and Fat Scott.

I sat by when they said Alex was the best thing for the team. I sat by as THEY sat on him and treated him like a real franchise QB, passing on Derek Carr and admitting later that they liked him a lot but felt tied to Alex ****ing Smith. And now that they want to move beyond him, the best they can do is Peterman in the 2nd? To me, that screams that they were never serious about life after Alex at all.

We were told not to hamstring the new regime with the mistakes of the past. Carl's faults aren't the fault of Dorsey and Reid, and those guys need time. That's what we were told.

Well, it's now the 5th draft of theirs. Now the mistakes of the past are directly the responsibility of the new regime if they keep up this ****ing garbage.

Nate Peterman isn't a franchise QB or even a consolation prize QB. He's a goddamn INSULT.

While I think this is an excellent post, allow me to play a little devil's advocate by taking Dorsey/Reid's hypothetical position here:

Drafting a QB in the first hamstrings you to that QB because it's a five year contract. Therefore, you should only hamstring yourself to the QB that fits what you want in a QB. All these guys have major warts in their game, and outside Tribusky, I don't think any of the top four guys fit Reid's offense like a glove.

I think Peterman does. I know you hate the guy, but Reid likes QBs that don't beat their own team. Peterman is a smart QB that is very careful with the ball and will even push the ball downfield more than Smith. In addition to that, he's got really good composure in the pocket and can actually convert 3rd and longs, so they're not automatically lost downs like they are with Smith under center.

Plus, taking Peterman in the 2nd means you only have him for 4 years, and you have more flexibility to take a QB you love in the 1st or 2nd in 2018 if you so desire.

Titty Meat 04-25-2017 08:56 PM

Peterman in the 2nd is a reach. I believe the Chiefs wanting a QB is smoke to insure 1 of the few dlinemen they like slides to them. Bailey and Logan are free agents after year the depth is a little thin. I don't believe RNR is equipped to stop the run, Jenkins is a scrub, etc.

DJ's left nut 04-25-2017 09:22 PM

If you take Peterman before the 4th, the problem isn't that you reached, its that you're goddamn reeruned.

Peterman is a poor man's Smith. His absolute peak is Alex Smith.

I'd rather have Kaaya or Kelly. Or Dobbs.

I'd rather have Jerod Evans.

Tyson Jackson, Dexter Mccluster and Javier Arenas would piss me off less than Nate Peterman in the second.

Just a terrible, terrible idea.

RealSNR 04-25-2017 09:48 PM

Peterman on Gruden's QB camp. Watching the actual episode now.

The first thing this guy does is talk about how much he idolizes Tebow. Yes, I'm dead serious. I know it's for Jesus reasons, but still. There are plenty of successful team leader QBs that have come and gone who are also religious. Philip Rivers. Kurt Warner. Pick one of those guys, you bat-eared doofus.

The next thing he goes on about? Trick shot videos. He likes doing trick shots.

Alex Tanney (remember him?) actually looked impressive in those trick shots. And he was a nifty little gimmick we had to care about in the midst of a hopeless cause. This dude isn't doing anything all that impressive that most QBs couldn't pull off with a couple of takes, AND he would cost a 2nd round ****ing pick.

I think I hate this asshole. Legitimately. Irrationally, yes. But I think I hate him. I haven't hated a QB coming out of the draft like this since Brock Osweiler.

thabear04 04-26-2017 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12838771)
QB: Smith, Peterman, Bray
RB: Ware, West, Henderson, Williams
FB: Sherman

WR: Maclin, Hill, Conley, Wilson, Thomas
TE: Kelce, Harris, Kittle, O'Shaughnessy

LT: Fisher, Schwartz
LG: Ehinger, Fulton
C: Morse, Fulton
RG: Duvarney-Tardif, Reid
RT: Schwartz, Witzmann, Gadbois

DE: Jones, Jenkins, Vanderdoes
NT: Logan, Johnson, Barnes
DE: Bailey, Nunez-Roches

OLB: Ford, Hali
ILB: Wilson, Walker
ILB: Johnson, March, Cole
OLB: Houston, McKinley

CB: Peters, Mitchell, Nelson, Gaines, White
S: Berry, Parker, Sorensen, Murray

K: Santos
P: Colquitt
LS: Winchester

No DJ Alexander or Gavin Escobar.

Direckshun 04-26-2017 12:57 AM

Fair enough on both.

Titty Meat 04-26-2017 07:51 AM

The deepest CB draft ever and not 1 CB? Your mock sucks.

Frosty 04-26-2017 07:55 AM

They're going to dump their Pro Bowl STer for a worthless March?

Doubtful.

DJ's left nut 04-26-2017 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12839533)
Peterman on Gruden's QB camp. Watching the actual episode now.

The first thing this guy does is talk about how much he idolizes Tebow. Yes, I'm dead serious. I know it's for Jesus reasons, but still. There are plenty of successful team leader QBs that have come and gone who are also religious. Philip Rivers. Kurt Warner. Pick one of those guys, you bat-eared doofus.

The next thing he goes on about? Trick shot videos. He likes doing trick shots.

Alex Tanney (remember him?) actually looked impressive in those trick shots. And he was a nifty little gimmick we had to care about in the midst of a hopeless cause. This dude isn't doing anything all that impressive that most QBs couldn't pull off with a couple of takes, AND he would cost a 2nd round ****ing pick.

I think I hate this asshole. Legitimately. Irrationally, yes. But I think I hate him. I haven't hated a QB coming out of the draft like this since Brock Osweiler.

Right there with you.

I've come to loathe Nate Peterman and everything he represents. He is mediocrity personified. He's worshiping at the altar of a raised floor.

He's the friend that you bring out on a double when you think you might actually like the girl you're bringing for yourself.

He's the basketball coach that gets hired at a football school.

He's just this forgettable blob that you hope fades into the background that people are vaguely comfortable with but ultimately don't really think about at all.

I'd rather take Joe Mixon in the second, Gareon Conley in the 3rd and Caleb Brantley in the 4th. Then sign Johnny Manziel as a free agent.

It's not just Peterman; as far as non-descript, ultimately irrelevant career backups with marginal upside who could lead bad teams to 6 win seasons go, you could do worse. Hell, he may even make himself into a poor man's Brian Hoyer some day.

But drafting Peterman is like hiring Kim Anderson - it's an open acknowledgement that you just don't give a ****.

Sandy Vagina 04-26-2017 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12839902)
But drafting Peterman is like hiring Kim Anderson - it's an open acknowledgement that you just don't give a ****.

have to hand it to you.. You have embraced and thrived in this new CP role of miserable twat. Bravo, good sir... bravo. :clap:

DJ's left nut 04-26-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12840402)
have to hand it to you.. You have embraced and thrived in this new CP role of miserable twat. Bravo, good sir... bravo. :clap:

That's because I'm brilliant.

I'll thrive in whatever role I choose.

The other miserable twats are elated to have me on their side these days.

O.city 04-26-2017 01:12 PM

No point discussing this stuff, just be happy aND let it happen. Snowflake


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