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Clyde Frog 11-01-2017 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 13191287)
It's working wonders for Cleveland

To be fair, absolutely nothing "works" for the Browns

bobbything 11-01-2017 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13191276)
There are several teams currently running the Coryell/Zampese, most prominently, the Dallas Cowboys.

The Redskins, Cleveland and Cincinnati all run it as well.

I suppose you could say that about every team, that they have elements of Coryell in it. I guess I'm talking, specifically, about Saunders' version. Turner had a version, Martz had a version. I haven't really seen Saunders' version implemented. He's still in the league as a WR coach. I suppose I wonder why he isn't an offensive coordinator anywhere.

Demonpenz 11-01-2017 12:49 PM

The shifting was dumb with Saunders he liked up gonzo at fb and they always shifted to a normal look. No audibles either in Saunders system.

bobbything 11-01-2017 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 13191328)
The shifting was dumb with Saunders he liked up gonzo at fb and they always shifted to a normal look. No audibles either in Saunders system.

Yeah, I remember the no audible thing. I thought all the shifting was a good move though. I remember Green talking about all the timeouts we burned because we had so many shifts. But he said that it really helped the QB and O-line out because it revealed so much about what the defense was going to do.

TambaBerry 11-01-2017 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13191253)
our current offensive scheme is pretty damn good if you ask me.

yeah, so good that when the defense shows obvious blitzes we cant get the ball out fast enough

Frazod 11-01-2017 12:55 PM

You need a good offensive line for that. We have our offensive line.

Demonpenz 11-01-2017 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 13191338)
Yeah, I remember the no audible thing. I thought all the shifting was a good move though. I remember Green talking about all the timeouts we burned because we had so many shifts. But he said that it really helped the QB and O-line out because it revealed so much about what the defense was going to do.

I didn't.mind the shifting but the good teams just sat out there because they knew. T rich was going for te to full back and tg to te. They never ran something weird to keep the defense honest. They really never needed to either since they wee bamf

Aspengc8 11-01-2017 12:59 PM

The current KC oline has been pretty much all zone blocking scheme. I haven't seen them run ANY variations of power, counter, wham or even iso. No i-form variations, I only see sherman in I form maybe once a game, and sometimes he is on a wing when blocking outside zone.

They have great personnel to run multiple variations of I form with boot & waggle. Nagy & Childress all about that spread.

Fire Me Boy! 11-01-2017 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13191269)
Roaf wasn’t a proven player? That offensive line was one of the best ever.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when we picked up Roaf, didn't most think his career was over?

Kiimo 11-01-2017 01:02 PM

Cleveland is a great example why you don't run that. It's like driving a Ferrari with apple juice in the tank.

bobbything 11-01-2017 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 13191352)
The current KC oline has been pretty much all zone blocking scheme. I haven't seen them run ANY variations of power, counter, wham or even iso. No i-form variations, I only see sherman in I form maybe once a game, and sometimes he is on a wing when blocking outside zone.

They have great personnel to run multiple variations of I form with boot & waggle. Nagy & Childress all about that spread.

Agreed. I've felt that this offensive line is probably better suited to pulls out of the I. Watching us run straight into Denver's defensive line on 1st down on Monday was infuriating.

I've felt that Reid's scheme is just too gimmicky. Only about one drive per game do we get into a rhythm.

Monday, though, we ran a lot of sets under center (which isn't that common for us). Out of it, we ran a lot more play action than I've ever seen. Hope to see more of it.

Beef Supreme 11-01-2017 01:08 PM

Why don't they run the wishbone?

Kiimo 11-01-2017 01:11 PM

Bring back the Schottenheimer power I

Kick the tires on Donnell Bennett and see what he has left.

bobbything 11-01-2017 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13191357)
Cleveland is a great example why you don't run that. It's like driving a Ferrari with apple juice in the tank.

As is any offense though.

I guess the question wasn't meant to ask, "Why doesn't every team run it?" Instead, "Why don't more teams build their offense around that scheme?"

Kiimo 11-01-2017 01:21 PM

Probably because defenses are built around the nickel and dime now to counter the multiple receivers.


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