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YayMike 11-06-2017 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 13202536)
Kareem Hunt getting 9 carries, the OL, and the secondary not being able to cover Dallas WRs was the biggest problems I had with yesterday.

Pretty much this. When the OL blocked, the Offense looked good. When the DL didn't get butt raped, the D did good.

We need to get healthy over the bye. Have the chance to get the starting OL back going forward which will improve the running game, and stop Alex from getting killed.

The defense is concerning, but I hope we can adjust to stop the run.

Rasputin 11-06-2017 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13202541)
Being at the game yesterday, it's night and day when you see someone like Dak go against Alex. You felt like Dak could score any given moment while Alex looked like a happy feet rookie. He looked like Jay Cutler.



Ouch. I'm no Alex Smith fan but that is a burn to the third degree.

TEX 11-06-2017 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13202598)
It all comes down to getting dominated up front. Defense and offense was pathetic yesterday.

If we're to the point where we consider conceding 28 points a solid defensive performance then we aren't going anywhere. That is terrible defense. It's like being content an offense only scores 17. Not horrible, but not championship level.

The only reason this season isn't worse is because Smith balled out. But we must accept that Smith was never built to win shootout after shootout. He's a placeholder. This defense is giving up upwards of 23ppg. And we have Alex at quarterback. Not a Superbowl recipe

Yep. The game was lost yesterday in the trenches on BOTH sides of the ball. :shake:

It's no secret that the Chiefs are soft.

BigRedChief 11-06-2017 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13202508)
We have really lost the last 4 games only 3 on paper.
IMHO Last week, we got a W. We won the battle against Denver but we did NOT win the war. We scored 1 TD and 5 FGs. Alex's offense racked up less than 200yds of passing, one TD pass, and wait for it. 79 total yards of rushing with 33 yds from Smith himself. Pathetic considering that the Donks racked up within 10 Yds of passing yards and nearly 100 more Yds on the ground. Hunt was held to... yeah, It's bad..46Yds. Denver's total yardage was 167 Yds higher than ours and we had Alex11 leading the league in umpteen different categories. We didn't win we settled for a "w"

Can tell me how the Bronco's defense is rated so good but yet is the same defense that the Eagles look like a small Scientology college team? (before getting their eyes plucked out they were ranked#3: Rankings don't mean shit, We were ranked, probably still are die to averages. How the **** can we justify our poor showing last week when a team we solidly beat makes whiney little bitches out of them? (51 points! YES 51!!!!)

When I look at the Denver stats and see 200yds from a 12 year veteran QB and 46yds by the leagues leading rusher, I don't see Denver as a great defense, I see the Chief's lack of an effective offense. Alex did not lead us to victory, Peters stole it from Denver. The Offense's piss poor performance earned a "w" just not a BIG ASS "W".

Yeah I know what you're going to say... But when push comes to shove, if Peters wouldn't have ripped the ball from Charles' grasp that game would have turned out differently. But I do feel your denial and you can argue all you want. We have been down this road and it doesn't work out well in the long term. I certainly hope that the taste of the Hemlock is to your liking. because unless a big change is made we will be looking at a wildcard game just to make the "real playoffs"

More about Denver later.

Dallas:
The TD pass at the end of the half against the Cowboy's was the only offense we had in the 1st half, I must give Andy credit for looking a dire situation in the eye and making a call that sucker punched the Cowboys. Alex11 should NOT receive credit from Chief's fans or the record books for a TD that was purely Andy and Hill and Co.. Alex threw 20 yds and Hill preformed the magic after the catch, blowing past a stunned, almost deer in the headlights, Dallas defense. Give the Andy credit where it's due. his late night moments, sitting in his office (with a bottle of bourbon?) scheming sessions, payed off BIG TIME. Last week in Denver, not so much...

With a reputation for racking up yards and scoring big numbers Alex11's total 1st half offense (less the Hill catch and run) was limited to 82 yards, resulting in 3 points. The Hail Mary, catch and run, (now referred to as Hill Mary) was ****ing brilliant. Alex11 given the opportunity would have took a knee. Did you hear Romo? Thank the football gods for allowing Andy to dream up and the guts to call that play.
Once again, I can't give Alex11 any credit (maybe a footnote) for the 7 point miracle which will forever bear Hill's name. Alex had failed to move the ball throughout the 1st half and frankly; My dead Grandmother could have thrown the ball to Hill. The 3 Chiefs who blocked for Hill deserve more credit that Alex11.

Hill certainly looked amazing for a few seconds as he had been totally stifled at the line of scrimmage (less than 10 yds?) but in the face of 10 Cowboys somehow steered clear for a critical TD. Dallas, Tony Romo, Alex11, and the league were ****ing stunned by what will be forever referred to as The Hill Mary!!!! I am pretty sure that was a the kind of moment Andy dreams of when he is doing his due diligence unlike any other.

On the 1st possession of the 2nd half, With the momentum from the Hill TD, the offense stepped up, and for 6 minutes, the new and improved Alex11 appears, and leads the team 67 yards for a decisive TD. I'm thinking "HERE WE GO".

Dallas marches down the field 75 Yds in 12 plays and less than 6 and scores 21-17.
Our turn over the ball. 2 dead ball penalties (5Yds ea) and a sack later,; Alex's offense is 3 and out.

Dallas' offense walks it back into the End Zone. 13 plays, 87 yards, <7m 28-17

Alex11 runs 8 plays as the "old Alex" that are basically a series of short 3-6Yd passes, achieving one 1st down. Three downs later, Alex11 is looking at a "do or die" 4th and 8 and throws a 7 yard interception into heavy traffic and that's pretty much the game.

Face it Chiefs fans: Alex tried hard but if you look at the facts: Alex11 led 1 scoring drive in 4 Qtrs. of football, we turned in dismal numbers, and we got our ass served to us on a silver (and blue) platter.But those same numbers won vs Denver. Have you watched the highlights? It's the Hill Mary show for one play, 1 KC scoring drive, and for the next 22 minutes of Dallas shoving the ball down our throats. Not a pretty sight.

Before you go all Sutton on me... We were able to able to hold the Cowboys to 4 td's/ one per quarter and for a team such as Dallas to be contained by a crappy defense(#29?) like ours, is not all that bad. Most expected more.
Who was it that said to be successful in the NFL you must average 1 TD a quarter? Oh, Yeah, that was me!

If you remove the Hill Mary play we looked worse than any game played in this season or last. Taking the Hill Mary off the books,(-56 passing Yds) we see numbers from Alex11 vs, Dallas that look "déjà vu ish".
Total Yds 267
Passing 199Yds--Kelce 73 Yds (Top receiver)
rushing 68 Yds-- Hill 37Yds
offensive TD--1

If we look at the Denver game last week.
Total offense 276
Passing 197Yds--Kelce 133 Yds (Top receiver)
Rushing 79Yds-- Hill 46Yds
Offensive TD--1


I for one feel that maybe it is time to put an old dog out of his misery, (O.K. our misery:hmmm:) He has been a dedicated well seasoned, warrior who tried hard to learn new tricks, perfect new skills, and was doing very well for the first few hunts of the season. Soon Ol' Smitts started back sliding, when it came to the important hunts, he seemed to "bark up the wrong tree. Just couldn't get or keep anything going as of late. (Viagra or FlowMax pitchline?)

I think that Alex may have helped us get a AFCW championship tee shirt, (TBD) I don't think he is going to get us much more after the last 4 games. I am not saying to put him down but maybe send an equipment guy to Onestopfanshop.com and get him a soft bench and a spot by the space heater until his time with us is over.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2b/63/41/2...s-football.jpg

I think it is time to urge Veatch, Reid, And Clark Hunt, to see the real writing is on the wall and during the bye put the final touches on Mahome's grooming and put plans in the works for his NFL debut in week 10.

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Bugeater 11-06-2017 08:47 AM

Damnit, when I read the thread title I thought it meant you were leaving. What a disappointment.

BigRedChief 11-06-2017 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 13202574)
Seriously, I could give a crap less about playing out the season for a draft pick.

Playing for a draft pick? Who is saying that?
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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 13202574)
If this is what we are doing, I would rather see Mahomes in there getting some experience for next year. That would do more good than having a higher draft pick. Look at what Watson was doing. And most here would argue Mahomes is better than Watson. Mahomes has had nearly 6 months since he was drafted, and two since the season started to learn.

Let him play and get real game experience. Then he and Smith can continue learning in the film room from a different perspective. And Mahomes can get a game or two of experience in the playoffs, which could make a huge difference going forward.

Geeezz will you people give us this pipe dream. :facepalm:

Mahomes is not replacing Alex this year. Its not going to happen for any reason besides injury. Doesn't matter if we lose another 4 games. we are 1/2 way through the season. That concrete has been poured.

Rausch 11-06-2017 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13202598)
It all comes down to getting dominated up front. Defense and offense was pathetic yesterday.

There it is.

Even healthy our line is very mediocre run blocking and pretty poor pass blocking. And that's with an elusive and scrambling QB that can avoid sacks when the pocked breaks down...

BigRedChief 11-06-2017 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13202735)
There it is.

Even healthy our line is very mediocre run blocking and pretty poor pass blocking. And that's with an elusive and scrambling QB that can avoid sacks when the pocked breaks down...

Our main issues in 2017 is not Alex. People just want to fast forward to next year.

I dont see a scenario where Smith is starting next year or even kept on the team other than a Mahomes injury in practice ala Watson. Then I could see them hedging their bets.

We trade Alex and we can get a top LB or secondary player in the draft. Mahomes era begins. We can all see it. Just need to be patient.

Dartgod 11-06-2017 09:17 AM

I couldn't even finish reading the OP because of the poor grammar. You write like our offensive line run blocks. Geeez...

BTW, we did earn the W against Denver, no matter how much you want to discredit it.

Rausch 11-06-2017 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13202743)
Our main issues in 2017 is not Alex. People just want to fast forward to next year.

I dont see a scenario where Smith is starting next year or even kept on the team other than a Mahomes injury in practice ala Watson. Then I could see them hedging their bets.

We trade Alex and we can get a top LB or secondary player in the draft. Mahomes era begins. We can all see it. Just need to be patient.

If that's the plan we better fix this line now.

You look around the league and the young QB's that were successful early like Dak and Wentz had very good lines in front of them.

cooper barrett 11-06-2017 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Danguardace (Post 13202527)
So much drama, I was actually pretty encouraged that this team can get better over the second half of the season.

Run Defense held Zeke to 3.4 a carry if you offered me that before the game I would have taken it, if anything a step in the right direction. We also did't allow Zeke and receiving yards. I was happy with the D. Not ecstatic but better than best case scenario seeing that they were not really reinforced by Hali as he disappeared and so did Houston...

This game basically came down to the offense not getting anything done in the first half. Tyreek Hill getting 2 receptions is unacceptable and Reid/Nagy has to take a lot of blame for that.

Team has been banged up and playing a lot of big TOUGH Prime time games 2 Thursdays 2 Mondays and a SNF. The BYE has come at good time. We have quality wins on the resume so enough to feel confident they can WIN games.

No team looks invincible yesterday was the Cowboys first home win since September.

You are such a ****ing ass, Why not tell the folks the whole story. They played 2 games at home since September scoring 30 + points a game. I don't call any team out when they lose after scoring 30 points.
Yes when we failed to score more than 10 points on offense* vs their 28 Hill Mary not included, than
They looked pretty dammed good with 4TDs and being able to walk the ball down the field and scoring all 4 TDs in the Red Zone

Sun, Oct 1
DCB vs Los Angeles L35-30

Sun, Oct 8
DCB vs Green Bay L35-31


Rausch 11-06-2017 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 13202744)
I couldn't even finish reading the OP because of the poor grammar. You write like our offensive line run blocks. Geeez..

Truf...

Hoover 11-06-2017 09:24 AM

Thank God for the noobs on this board.

My lord we played a difficult schedule. Nobody in the modern NFL goes undefeated. Really, really good playoff teams go into the playoffs with 3-4 losses.

I mean I don't know how you guys do it. How do you come home every night to that fat ugly wife of yours and not just kill youself right there? Oh that's right, we have boobie thread on the planet. Nevermind.

We are fine.
We will make the playoffs.
We will get better defensively (been tinkering)
Just need to be healthy come playoff time.

TLO 11-06-2017 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13202764)
Thank God for the noobs on this board.

My lord we played a difficult schedule. Nobody in the modern NFL goes undefeated. Really, really good playoff teams go into the playoffs with 3-4 losses.

I mean I don't know how you guys do it. How do you come home every night to that fat ugly wife of yours and not just kill youself right there? Oh that's right, we have boobie thread on the planet. Nevermind.

We are fine.
We will make the playoffs.
We will get better defensively (been tinkering)
Just need to be healthy come playoff time.

What do you have against the boobie thread? :hmmm:

cooper barrett 11-06-2017 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13202541)
Being at the game yesterday, it's night and day when you see someone like Dak go against Alex. You felt like Dak could score any given moment while Alex looked like a happy feet rookie. He looked like Jay Cutler.


Alex certainly didn't look like he was thinking about a family vacay at Disney-world. More like a defective Energizer bunny


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