Why do some get so offended when people criticize Mahomes? He’s playing shitty right now and he’s the first to admit it. Nobody knows what the issue is, but he needs to be better, much better. With his future cap hit he can’t be what he is right now. I think he’ll be better, not sure when.

Mahomes was doing just fine today until Niang went down. Things changed when Wylie went in.

Meh. He hits one of those deep balls and everybody is deep throating the offense again.

Niang went down? Oh snap!

Yeah well he hasn't hit a deep ball since the Washington game. Hasn't even come close.

I don't know how much truth there was to it, but the narrative at the time was the Bucs hadn't completely bought into the offense at that point of the season, and what they did in the SB was basically the final product of protecting Brady with short dump-offs and what not.

And yeah, the only win they could hang their hat on all season was beating the Packers... swept by the Saints and one game was 38-3 (sound familiar?), lost to the Rams, lost to the Chiefs when it was 21-0 in the first quarter.

There is still plenty of time and the AFC in particular looks like a complete shitshow.... as much as I hated the decades of "just get into the playoffs and anything can happen!!!", this is actually a team that could validate that theory.

If he completes that pass to Hardman the place goes bananas and the beast is back.

Tell me that if Hardman had scored a td there, you would be angrily face rolling your keyboard bitching about passing up a wide open shorter pass. Lmmfao it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

If he connects on the deep shot to hill for a what, 95 yard td, same deal.

You may yearn for the days of Alex Smith throwing dumpoffs. Go watch replays of that shit if that's what you want.

IF IF IF.....

Was arguing this very point in the other Mahomes thread. I encourage anyone to go to youtube and look at his TD's passes last year. Alot of his "pocket" passes were him drifting 10 yds + back and throwing it. We also did alot of designed roll outs down in the red zone.

Not sure if the coaches or Mahomes himself, the tackles or defenses have adjusted and are playing him that way to take away that part of his game. But being a traditional pocket QB isn't his game.

So, if he played better, people would be saying better things? ;)

I do think a lot of people are looking for shreds of optimism, when a couple of throws at the end of a game has people thinking we're seeing the "old" (you know, 5-8 weeks ago) Mahomes.

Yeah. Too bad the game is more than a quarter long. After the first 15 plays, they've looked lost.

Mahomes is done, heard it on CP first.

Disagree. People forget the back half of the 2019 season. Patrick absolutely played from the pocket to the point that this board thought Andy made him into Alex. He has absolutely shown he can play this way before.

Also, again --- ALL QB'S GO THROUGH RUTS LIKE THIS.

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To say that "Patrick needs to learn how to play QB now" is such a stupid statement after what we've seen him accomplish in his first NFL seasons. We've seen him play excellently at the position and to forget all of that after literally the first slump in his career makes me think you need to take a breather, bud.

Problem is there was only one of those deep balls that had more than a hope and a prayer of being completed.

He's too in love with hitting the deep ball. He got addicted to it to start his career and defenses got tired of it. Now he's looking right through a wide open Kelce to throw 50 yards down field to a double covered Hardman of all receivers.

If my aunt had a dick, billay would be her bitch.