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BWillie 01-03-2022 11:08 AM

I think the running a cover 0 blitz on 3rd and 27 might have been a little more of the issue.

wutamess 01-03-2022 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16050237)
I think the running a cover 0 blitz on 3rd and 27 might have been a little more of the issue.

That's just it... This Hill issue has been season long. That particular play changes the entire complexion of the game. Not saying the 3rd & 27 call wasn't important, I guess I'm just sick of Tyreek costing us possible games when he's supposed to be a master at his craft.

If Tyreek has D. Hops speed and quickness he'd be an Byron Pringle at best. That's my point of him being an athlete playing WR.

Dante84 01-03-2022 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16050206)
Chiefs had lots of opportunities to win. That play, the kickoff return, 3rd and 27.

They just blew it, period. This might be a valuable lesson we learned right before the postseason. Glass half full.

That's where I'm at. I always like my basketball teams to lose a close one right before March Madness to keep them humble and focused, so I'm choosing to do the same this go around.

It sucks having to play another game, and I hate that it will likely be the Chargers in round 1, but I still think we are the better team overall. The other side of it is that I don't think Tennessee makes it to the AFC Championship, and even if they do, I think we'd beat them in a rematch.

Hammock Parties 01-03-2022 11:14 AM

This team was not humbled before the playoffs last season.

They just got a big ****ing wake up call.

This really might be for the best.

Gary Cooper 01-03-2022 11:14 AM

We likely get a FG if he catches that. Probably not enough time to do anything else............I'm just going off memory here.

The Pringle kickoff TD would be a bigger blow for the Bengals.

eDave 01-03-2022 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16050249)
This team was not humbled before the playoffs last season.

They just got a big ****ing wake up call.

This really might be for the best.

I'm definately settled with this too. I'm getting why it happened, let's make it bite them in the ass.

PunkinDrublic 01-03-2022 11:16 AM

Tyreek is a master route runner as well as elite at tracking the ball and this is what you’re pissing and moaning about. More often than not Tyreek makes plays and this is while being covered by multiple defenders. Everyone has drops but Tyreek has lengthy history of coming up big in key moments. Really stupid post.

mr. tegu 01-03-2022 11:23 AM

Athletes that play WR don’t run routes, find open space, or command three defenders at the levels Hill does. Just a terribly unfounded opinion.

wutamess 01-03-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 16050257)
Tyreek is a master route runner as well as elite at tracking the ball and this is what you’re pissing and moaning about. More often than not Tyreek makes plays and this is while being covered by multiple defenders. Everyone has drops but Tyreek has lengthy history of coming up big in key moments. Really stupid post.

Never said he wasn't any of those. I said he can't catch with his hands and it's cost us games (as in plural) just this season.

DJ's left nut 01-03-2022 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 16050272)
Never said he wasn't any of those. I said he can't catch with his hands and it's cost us games (as in plural) just this season.

He absolutely makes catches with his hands, but I think there's some of that punt returner instinct in him that on occasion has him trying to cradle those balls he can square up to.

If he attacks that ball with his hands he can tuck it away from the DB that popped it out of there. He SHOULD'VE caught it. But c'mon - there's no sense in overstating things.

He's an excellent receiver and yes, will absolutely hands catch, but it's usually when he's on the fly and trying to catch/run in one motion.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-03-2022 11:30 AM

There will be at least 3 teams in the playoffs that we've lost to this year. That's good for us in the long run.

PAChiefsGuy 01-03-2022 11:32 AM

Tyreek has had way too many drops this season. He needs to tighten up in that area and I'm sure he would be the first to admit it.

jettio 01-03-2022 11:32 AM

That was a high trajectory ball thrown on a windy day. I think it hit his shoulder pad before his hands. Mahomes and Reid both say that Tyreek has elite ability to track a ball in the air like an elite MLB outfielder.

Fans allocating blame is a stupid waste of time. What if you came up with a chart that perfectly assigned the right amount of blame to each player and coach? Could you trade the chart in for a win?

Would you use the chart to try to convince a player to accept less pay than they could get from another team?

Brett Veach is not going to do that because he knows that other teams will pay market value.

The whole idea of allocating blame is silly. And acting like the defensive back is not there makes allocating blame on that play even sillier.

wutamess 01-03-2022 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16050276)
He absolutely makes catches with his hands, but I think there's some of that punt returner instinct in him that on occasion has him trying to cradle those balls he can square up to.

If he attacks that ball with his hands he can tuck it away from the DB that popped it out of there. He SHOULD'VE caught it. But c'mon - there's no sense in overstating things.

He's an excellent receiver and yes, will absolutely hands catch, but it's usually when he's on the fly and trying to catch/run in one motion.

That's IT! I never thought of it until you stated it. He catches balls like punts. Makes sense since he's a converted punt returner (remember Ramsey called him that his first couple of years). I've always wondered why he tries to catch the majority of balls thrown to him with his body. You just hit the nail on the head.

carcosa 01-03-2022 11:37 AM

It's the gloves!!!!!


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