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Kylo Ren 09-20-2004 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jspchief
If the "even for face value" part of this story is true, that's complete bullsh*t. What happens if my friend that has two season tickets has a last minute emergency, and asks me to sell them for him? All this will do is screw honest people out of their money, and keep fans out of the seats.

Now we'll have to try and buy them from some crook around the corner. Or pay exorbitant prices through e-bay. KC police have always patrolled for scalpers undercover, but in the past you only got in trouble for selling over "face". It actually made buying in the stadium lot the safest and most affordable method for non season ticket holders to get to a game.:mad::cuss::mad:

Talk about misdirected priorities...
I agree. I'm just telling you what the officer told me. I also asked a Jackson Co. Sherriff officer. He said the exact same thing. That's why I believe it to be true and accurate.

Kylo Ren 09-20-2004 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
And people wonder why I hate cops.
They both told me that Lamar Hunt had requested they do this. I don't know if they were kidding or serious. But they both said it.

Kylo Ren 09-20-2004 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by KCWolfman
It isn't scalping if you offer a product besides the tix.

I bought my playoff tix last year for 1.00 and then 125% of the value of the tix was spent on a Chiefs pennant.

There are ways around the system.
The problem with that is that they won't allow that to take place on Arrowhead property from now on. You could do this off property and on Ebay, but not on Arrowhead property.

Kylo Ren 09-20-2004 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KCWolfman
It isn't scalping if you offer a product besides the tix.

I bought my playoff tix last year for 1.00 and then 125% of the value of the tix was spent on a Chiefs pennant.

There are ways around the system.
This is how Ebay sellers get away with it. The Cops said they weren't worried about Ebay, just Arrowhead property. Sounds like King Carl is up to something.

Swanman 09-20-2004 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jspchief
If the "even for face value" part of this story is true, that's complete bullsh*t. What happens if my friend that has two season tickets has a last minute emergency, and asks me to sell them for him? All this will do is screw honest people out of their money, and keep fans out of the seats.


Talk about misdirected priorities...
I agree. Selling tickets at face value is the purest example of a victimless crime (although I don't believe it's a crime). It hurts absolutely no one. From the Chiefs perspective, someone paid $xx for a seat and no one profited off of subsequent sales, so they shouldn't care.

Kylo Ren 09-20-2004 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm thinking if a cop approaches you, and tries to sell you a ticket, the word entrapment is going to come up in your first conversation with your lawyer.
They don't approach you, you approach them. If you offer them money for the ticket, they've got you.

Swanman 09-20-2004 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm thinking if a cop approaches you, and tries to sell you a ticket, the word entrapment is going to come up in your first conversation with your lawyer.
I agree, but cops get away with entrapment every time they do a prostitution sting (I've seen one too many episodes of Cops).

Kylo Ren 09-20-2004 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
Whether or not they were serious isn't the issue. It's whether or not they were honest.

As a general rule, I don't believe a goddammed thing that comes out of a cops mouth.
Why? They are here only to protect and serve. :p

tonyetony 09-20-2004 01:49 PM
if you pay to park in the parking lot you can't be accused of trespassing and if asking face value or less you are in compliance of the law. Offering primary merchandise with a ticket kicker wihout vendor liccense can get you in trouble also but the city hasn't prosecuted a case like that since the Royals were playing in the I-70 series.

Kylo Ren 09-20-2004 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Swanman
I agree. Selling tickets at face value is the purest example of a victimless crime (although I don't believe it's a crime). It hurts absolutely no one. From the Chiefs perspective, someone paid $xx for a seat and no one profited off of subsequent sales, so they shouldn't care.
I totally agree. But I'm not going to risk it. I'm not buying any scalped tickets from now on. I'm not going to sell any either.

Kylo Ren 09-20-2004 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Swanman
I agree, but cops get away with entrapment every time they do a prostitution sting (I've seen one too many episodes of Cops).
Sure you have ........... John. :hmmm:

wazu 09-20-2004 01:51 PM
I don't see what people are complaining about. This is great news! If scalpers don't have a way to mitigate costs by selling at Arrowhead on Sunday, they will have to either lower their prices in the days/weeks preceding the game or quit scalping tickets altogether.

Anything that makes scalping less profitable will just help make more season tickets available to people who actually love the Chiefs and aren't just looking to hawk tickets.

Saulbadguy 09-20-2004 02:07 PM
Good. I hate it when we are turning in to the stadium and people are STOPPED in the middle of the freaking road so they can talk to these scalpers. Inside the stadium I don't care, but I can't stand those "I NEED TICKETS" morons.

wazu 09-20-2004 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ENDelt260
I think you're kidding yourself Adam.

All this does is move the scalpers from the parking lot to the street.
It certainly can't help the scalping business. I think any fear of getting arrested at all is enough to scare away a lot of people who normally wouldn't risk that.

It's like downloading music. Scalpers and scalpees had gotten to the point that they did business openly and without fear. Some of them still will, but a lot of people will think twice.

Snakey 09-20-2004 02:09 PM
That will keep those terrorists away. Talk about stupidity. Now you have to sell them on the street like rock and hookers?


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