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DaneMcCloud 12-12-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9202642)
I agree and I realize his point, but it is stupid to say SB teams are undefeated in the playoffs.

Who made that comment?

I think some of you guys are confusing a BB forum comment that CW linked with Peter King's actual quote.

DaneMcCloud 12-12-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 9202688)
A lot of people on reddit did.

Well, they're clearly ****ing morons with no grasp of the English language.

Rain Man 12-12-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9202566)
that was the infamous 'one loss' superbowl champion...to this day no one is quite sure how that worked


I'm guessing that Tom Brady was involved somehow. I bet he could get past a playoff loss in his way to the Super Bowl.

DaneMcCloud 12-12-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9202678)
Yep

Nope

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...bag/index.html

• Low Seeds Rule. Since 2005, Super Bowl winners are 12-0 on the road in the playoffs. The last seven champs have played only seven home games in all, in addition to the 12 road games, which means the champ has come out of the pack of those teams that often end up scrambling to make the playoffs at the end.

bobbything 12-12-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9202692)
Well, they're clearly ****ing morons with no grasp of the English language.

I believe most people know what he's trying to say. But it's not worded well and makes him sound stupid. Yeah, it's kind of nit-picky but I had to read it two or three times before I really understood what he was getting at.

bobbything 12-12-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9202698)
Nope

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...bag/index.html

• Low Seeds Rule. Since 2005, Super Bowl winners are 12-0 on the road in the playoffs. The last seven champs have played only seven home games in all, in addition to the 12 road games, which means the champ has come out of the pack of those teams that often end up scrambling to make the playoffs at the end.

You really don't see how it's both unnecessary and redundant to say that Super Bowl winners are undefeated? If King were to just omit that stat, this would be a non-issue. Here...

"Since 2005, Super Bowl winners have played 12 road games vs. 7 home games; which means the champ..."

BigMeatballDave 12-12-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9202689)
Who made that comment?

Does 12-0 NOT mean undefeated?

BigMeatballDave 12-12-2012 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 9202709)
You really don't see how it's both unnecessary and redundant to say that Super Bowl winners are undefeated? If were to just omit that stat, this would be a non-issue. Here...

"Since 2005, Super Bowl winners have played 12 road games vs. 7 home games; which means the champ..."

Exactly.

Chiefnj2 12-12-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 9202655)
What he's trying to say and what he's saying are two different things. He's trying to say, "Since 2005, Super Bowl winning teams have played 12 road games vs. 7 home games."

The way it reads is, "The teams that have gone on the road to win the Super Bowl are 12-0."

It sounds tarded.

You are putting emphasis on the "0", King is intending to emphasize the "12".

"The last 7 Super Bowl winners are undefeated on the road". Stupid statement.

"The last 7 Super Bowl winners are 12-0 on the road." Could be worded better, but with the next two sentences in his article, it puts it all in perspective.

BigMeatballDave 12-12-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9202717)
You are putting emphasis on the "0", King is intending to emphasize the "12".

"

Then he should have omitted the 0

bobbything 12-12-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9202717)
You are putting emphasis on the "0", King is intending to emphasize the "12".

Key word here, "intending". I know what he's trying to say, but he's not saying it very well. By saying "12-0", it implies an undefeated record. Which, as pointed out, is redundant.

Edit: Hell, it doesn't imply, it states. He should have just omitted the record altogether and talked about the 12 road games and not the teams' records in those 12 road games. Because everyone knows what their record was.

DaneMcCloud 12-12-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 9202709)
You really don't see how it's both unnecessary and redundant to say that Super Bowl winners are undefeated? If King were to just omit that stat, this would be a non-issue. Here...

"Since 2005, Super Bowl winners have played 12 road games vs. 7 home games; which means the champ..."

No, not at all.

Super Bowl winners have been 12-0 ON THE ROAD since 2005.

Do you have a different way to describe a Super Bowl winner?

DaneMcCloud 12-12-2012 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 9202725)
Key word here, "intending". I know what he's trying to say, but he's not saying it very well. By saying "12-0", it implies an undefeated record. Which, as pointed out, is redundant.

Edit: Hell, it doesn't imply, it states. He should have just omitted the record altogether and talked about the 12 road games and not the teams' records in those 12 road games. Because everyone knows what their record was.

JFC, so "Everyone knows" that the past seven Super Bowl winning teams were a combined 12-0 on the road during the playoffs?

What?

bobbything 12-12-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9202728)
No, not at all.

Super Bowl winners have been 12-0 ON THE ROAD since 2005.

Do you have a different way to describe a Super Bowl winner?

I've said it three times already, but I'll repeat it again...

"Since 2005, Super Bowl winners have played 12 road games vs. 7 home games."

By default, Super Bowl winners are undefeated in the playoffs. However, since 2005, of the 19 games these winners have played, 12 of them have been on the road. That's the point of emphasis, not the record.

Let me ask you this, if you won the Super Bowl last year and played three road games, what was your record? Point being that the record on the road in the playoffs is redundant. It's not necessary to say that Super Bowl winners are 12-0 on the road. Just say, Super Bowl winners have played 12 road games.

BigMeatballDave 12-12-2012 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9202728)

Do you have a different way to describe a Super Bowl winner?

One who does not lose in the post-season?

Molitoth 12-12-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9202622)
Its not dumb if you read it in the full context of the story.

The original quoted link wasn't the full context of the story though...

DaneMcCloud 12-12-2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 9202756)
I've said it three times already, but I'll repeat it again...

"Since 2005, Super Bowl winners have played 12 road games vs. 7 home games."

By default, Super Bowl winners are undefeated in the playoffs. However, since 2005, of the 19 games these winners have played, 12 of them have been on the road. That's the point of emphasis, not the record.

Let me ask you this, if you won the Super Bowl last year and played three road games, what was your record? Point being that the record on the road in the playoffs is redundant. It's not necessary to say that Super Bowl winners are 12-0 on the road. Just say, Super Bowl winners have played 12 road games.

Wow, talk about making a mountain out of a molehill

DaneMcCloud 12-12-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9202757)
One who does not lose in the post-season?

What is the total number of road victories for the last seven Super Bowl winners?

And do you understand what this number implies?

bobbything 12-12-2012 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9202794)
Wow, talk about making a mountain out of a molehill

I love it. You repeatedly say that you can't see the redundancy in King's statement(s); which I, and many, many, many others, seem to see. I did my best to explain it as simply as possible.

Bottom line, he could have worded it all much better; and considering he's a Senior Writer for SI, he should be expected to.

DaneMcCloud 12-12-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 9202813)
I love it. You repeatedly say that you can't see the redundancy in King's statement(s); which I, and many, many, many others, seem to see. I did my best to explain it as simply as possible.

Bottom line, he could have worded it all much better; and considering he's a Senior Writer for SI, he should be expected to.

I completely and utterly disagree and have absolutely no issue with his wording, especially in the context of the paragraph.

BigMeatballDave 12-12-2012 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9202831)
I completely and utterly disagree and have absolutely no issue with his wording, especially in the context of the paragraph.

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https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...gvthsSedFXfM7Q

DaFace 12-12-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9202831)
I completely and utterly disagree and have absolutely no issue with his wording, especially in the context of the paragraph.

I'm glad you're not a writer then. I think it's really confusing and sounds idiotic. Can you figure out what point he's trying to make? Sure. But Super Bowl teams are by definition undefeated in the playoffs, so there's no reason to say "12-0," which implies that a loss would be possible in the given scenario.

Chiefnj2 12-12-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 9202725)
Key word here, "intending". I know what he's trying to say, but he's not saying it very well. By saying "12-0", it implies an undefeated record. Which, as pointed out, is redundant.

Edit: Hell, it doesn't imply, it states. He should have just omitted the record altogether and talked about the 12 road games and not the teams' records in those 12 road games. Because everyone knows what their record was.

The problem is that people who are nitpicking King are ignoring the fact that he didn't write a stand alone single sentence.

keg in kc 12-12-2012 02:44 PM

Wow, talk about arguing over nothing.

DaneMcCloud 12-12-2012 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9202873)
I'm glad you're not a writer then. I think it's really confusing and sounds idiotic. Can you figure out what point he's trying to make? Sure. But Super Bowl teams are by definition undefeated in the playoffs, so there's no reason to say "12-0," which implies that a loss would be possible in the given scenario.

Do I think he chose the best wording possible? No. Can I understand what he's saying? Yes.

In the age of email, Twitter, Facebook and other forms of instant new items and thought, grammar and punctuation have suffered irreparable damage to the point where even the best journalists stumble over themselves to make a point.

Dayze 12-12-2012 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9202886)
Wow, talk about arguing over nothing.

yes we are

DaneMcCloud 12-12-2012 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9202886)
Wow, talk about arguing over nothing.

That's what a 2-11 record will do to people.

HemiEd 12-12-2012 03:22 PM

I am pretty sure the last 46 Super Bowl winners have been undefeated both at home and on the road in the playoffs.

listopencil 12-12-2012 03:49 PM

Peter King is a hack. His articles are crap.

Hammock Parties 12-12-2012 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9203072)
Peter King is a hack. His articles are crap.

"Cassel is an MVP candidate"

- Peter King, 2010

Dayze 12-12-2012 04:28 PM

King has gravy running through his veins.

bevischief 12-12-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9202520)
There's a link for Dog Anal Gland Treatment at the bottom of the page. We should buy some for King and tell him to apply liberally to his face.

Send it to Peeholi too.

Rain Man 12-12-2012 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9202957)
That's what a 2-11 record will do to people.

For crying out loud, there are still three more games? It doesn't seem like this season will EVER end.

listopencil 12-12-2012 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9203167)
"Cassel is an MVP candidate"

- Peter King, 2010


Ouch.

Psyko Tek 12-12-2012 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9141137)
I could be wrong here, but this take on Sunday's game seems like a shot at us fans.



Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz2CxlROTSp

Personally, I think we are all very loyal. That's why we all want Pioli and all of his "Patriot Ways" out of here.

anybody ever read anything from this ass clown that was correct?

HIs mmqb has always been shit, and I DO NOT give a **** about what coffee you like

RINGLEADER 12-13-2012 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9141141)
He's just one voice, a loud voice but still only one voice. I'm surprised that most national media have been more friendly towards us than usual when it comes to fan revolts.

He is a big Pioli fan and sees him socially.

Well, he is the guy who picked the Chiefs to go to the playoffs and Romeo Crennell to be Coach of the Year...

DaneMcCloud 12-13-2012 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 9204177)
Well, he is the guy who picked the Chiefs to go to the playoffs and Romeo Crennell to be Coach of the Year...

Proof that East Coast Bias is overrated.

:D

Hammock Parties 12-13-2012 01:30 AM

Dane picked the same thing, more or less. :D


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