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007 01-14-2014 02:11 AM

You can't fix stupid. You don't shoot somebody for texting. Of course, you don't need to be texting in a movie theater. I would give the texter a pass since it was before the movie started, but during the movie I wish people would respect others and leave the theater if a call or text is so important you can't miss it.

DenverChief 01-14-2014 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 10369094)
Shit, my uncle turned 70 over 3 years ago here with me. I have no doubt that right now, today, he isn't going to shoot anyone over anything. Let's not make it out like 71 is some age where we have to worry about someone going batshit. It's not. He's ****ed up. 71, 51, it doesn't matter. ****ed up is ****ed up. He's not ****ing senile by any means...

:spock: you don't have to be batshit crazy to be a bad driver or make bad decisions. There is a reason most 70 something people live in a elderly care home

jspchief 01-14-2014 05:34 AM

An armed society is a polite society. Or something.

J Diddy 01-14-2014 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 10369099)
You can't fix stupid. You don't shoot somebody for texting. Of course, you don't need to be texting in a movie theater. I would give the texter a pass since it was before the movie started, but during the movie I wish people would respect others and leave the theater if a call or text is so important you can't miss it.

All of this and a bag of chips.

The funny thing about this is that he was so butthurt about a guy texting before the movie out of fear of missing the movie that he started a confrontation that ultimately made him miss the whole movie.

griZZly64 01-14-2014 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 10368298)
When was that speech made?

If you are looking for good police work then that slogan is also bad. Police work shouldn't be about intimidation. It should be about protecting the rights of the populace. If you are going for intimidation you are hiring thugs and instilling a thuggish demeanor in your workforce. Shows of force and escalating violence become more important than actual good police work and using the least amount of force possible. Not exactly a great way to get the public on your side.

You wonder why people hate cops? The slogan "we intimidate those who intimidate others" goes a long way to explain it.

There's tons of reasons to hate cops. Intimidating scumbags who make their living preying on others is not one of them.

ct 01-14-2014 07:38 AM

before the movie? wtf is somebody getting on anybody's case BEFORE the freaking movie?

Garcia Bronco 01-14-2014 07:40 AM

This is why I don't go to the theatre anymore.

GloryDayz 01-14-2014 07:51 AM

This is so sad..

InChiefsHeaven 01-14-2014 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 10369171)
This is so sad..

This. My dad is 78 years old and this would never happen. Having said that, no sane person does this, so I'd bet the old man's cheese done slipped off his cracker...wonder what HIS wife had to say about it.

ChiliConCarnage 01-14-2014 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ct (Post 10369163)
before the movie? wtf is somebody getting on anybody's case BEFORE the freaking movie?

That's the crazy part. This sounds like they were watching the coke commercial for the fourth time and the lights were on and the old crazy bastard got mad. I hate people using their phone in the theater but who turns it off before they at least turn down the lights and start the previews? Even during the previews I'd be hard pressed to be annoyed by someone.

This old man had to have been hopped up on Low T medicine and roids.

InChiefsHeaven 01-14-2014 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage (Post 10369188)
That's the crazy part. This sounds like they were watching the coke commercial for the fourth time and the lights were on and the old crazy bastard got mad. I hate people using their phone in the theater but who turns it off before they at least turn down the lights and start the previews? Even during the previews I'd be hard pressed to be annoyed by someone.

This old man had to have been hopped up on Low T medicine and roids.

Maybe the old man was trying to answer the trivia question but could not concentrate due to the texting...

Radar Chief 01-14-2014 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10368883)
You don't get to kill someone for texting.

Everyone in Florida has a gun. 1,000,000 gun owners have a concealed carry permits. Stand your ground law. It has created a atmosphere that its okay to say.........kill a guy for texting.

Considering this guy is going to go to jail for the rest of his life I’m not sure where you’re getting this “atmosphere” :BS: from.

Eleazar 01-14-2014 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 10369202)
Considering this guy is going to go to jail for the rest of his life I’m not sure where you’re getting this “atmosphere” :BS: from.

If you're a lib in Florida you have to cry about stand your ground even when it's clearly not a duty-to-retreat situation, it's a requirement.

Earthling 01-14-2014 08:44 AM

I can almost hear Johnny Cash....

I shot a man in Tampa
Just to watch him die
Now when I see somebody texting
I hang my head and cry...

CosmicPal 01-14-2014 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10368883)
You don't get to kill someone for texting.

Texting is what started the confrontation. I assume it went something like this:
"Hey buddy, you mind not using your phone during the movie."
"Yeah, in a moment bub." Guy doesn't look back and continues to text.
"Hey, I asked you nicely not to use your phone. You're in a theater."
"Buzz off pops."
"Excuse me?"
"You'd hear me if you'd pull your dick out of your ear."

Old man runs off to get the theater manager. Which was the appropriate thing to do. He then returns and the guy is still texting...

"I'm not going to ask you again, stop texting during the show."
Guy stands up enraged, "The movie hasn't start yet fucktop. Mind your own damn business or I'll hop over this seat and kick your ass..."

Or something like that.

The bottom line is that we have two grown men who both failed to use common sense and be courteous with each other. Had the guy just put his phone away or at the very least, show some iota of courtesy to the old man, then none of this would have happened. It's simply tragedy that could and should have been avoided.

Lastly, who the **** texts a 3 year-old? What 3 year-old has a phone, the language capacity, and know-how to text?

Jimmya 01-14-2014 08:54 AM

Texting a 3yr old....I call BS.....

Old Dog 01-14-2014 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10368475)
Fry that ****.

There's really no reason to now. The old dude shot him.

stevieray 01-14-2014 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 10369114)
:spock: you don't have to be batshit crazy to be a bad driver or make bad decisions. There is a reason most 70 something people live in a elderly care home

....you're gonna be 70 something someday and I'l guarandamntee you won't be thinking you should be in a home.

Lzen 01-14-2014 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10369213)
If you're a lib in Florida you have to cry about stand your ground even when it's clearly not a duty-to-retreat situation, it's a requirement.

FYP

Lzen 01-14-2014 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 10369277)
....you're gonna be 70 something someday and I'l guarandamntee you won't be thinking you should be in a home.

Everyone is different. My mom turned 70 last month and she is in pretty good health. If you didn't know, you'd think she is around 60.

tooge 01-14-2014 09:59 AM

the wife had a hand in it. No free tickets for her.

Jimmya 01-14-2014 10:03 AM

No hand left!

GloryDayz 01-14-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 10369276)
There's really no reason to now. The old dude shot him.

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

VAChief 01-14-2014 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 10369249)
Texting a 3yr old....I call BS.....

Does it matter? I don't care if he is surfing porn during the previews he has every right to use his device until the movie starts. We don't know what happened in the exchange, but unless the texting father put him in danger that was unavoidable there is no defense. If shooting someone because they are an asshole becomes justifiable...Welcome to Thunderdome.

Dartgod 01-14-2014 11:44 AM

They should have just sent in the camel.

"Hey, Chad! Chad, Chad, Chad, Chad."

FishingRod 01-14-2014 11:45 AM

I cannot condone shooting a person for being rude in a Theater, I UNDERSTAND IT,


but can’t condone it.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 01-14-2014 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 10369249)
Texting a 3yr old....I call BS.....

perhaps the babysitter

kcfanXIII 01-14-2014 12:00 PM

I would guess the wife was trying to hold her husband back. If the texter threatened the old man, the old man really had no other choice. His choices were shoot or take an ass beating. The problem is, this is all based on my own assumption that the wife being shot in the hand is due to her trying to hold her husband back. I'm trying to wait until we get more info before I pass a judgement.

beach tribe 01-14-2014 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 10368652)
Lighten up Francis... LOL, the academy!!!

Watch out for Mahoney.

Hes a real prankster.

Carlota69 01-14-2014 12:04 PM

I had an old guy start some shit with me during the preview-previews. The lights werent even down and my friend and I were chatting about whatever, and he wanted us to not talk at all. I told him he wasnt the boss of me and I could talk if I wanted to. He fought with me for roughly 5 mins, and I didnt back down at all. He ended up dropping it.

No one has the right to tell you what to do just cuz they dont like it. I dont give a shit who the dude was texting, he wasnt texting during the movie, and even if he was, he didnt deserve to die over it.

I realize CP is trying to regain its "burst", but ****ing A people....

Dartgod 01-14-2014 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 10369605)
If the texter threatened the old man, the old man really had no other choice.

Threatened him how? To kick his ass? Not justified. Unless the victim actually produced a weapon of some sort, there is no justification for shooting him.

Gravedigger 01-14-2014 12:06 PM

The Veteran claimed he was struck by an unknown object, he the pulled out his gun, shot the guy once, then sat back down in his seat and put the gun on his lap. Witnesses claimed no punches were thrown.

BigRichard 01-14-2014 12:08 PM

One hundred and twelve posts and not one "Ban cell phones!" post. You guys are slackings.


















Ban cell phones!

GloryDayz 01-14-2014 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10369612)
Watch out for Mahoney.

Hes a real prankster.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/8szuknTjjbI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Rain Man 01-14-2014 12:12 PM

Other patrons later lauded Lone Survivor as the most realistic war movie ever.

Easy 6 01-14-2014 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 10369164)
This is why I don't go to the theatre anymore.

I try to stick to weekday matinee's, sooo much more enjoyable than being packed in there like a sardine with a bunch morons.

Radar Chief 01-14-2014 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10369631)
Other patrons later lauded Lone Survivor as the most realistic war movie ever.

Commenting that they didn't realize it is in 3D.

kcfanXIII 01-14-2014 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 10369617)
Threatened him how? To kick his ass? Not justified. Unless the victim actually produced a weapon of some sort, there is no justification for shooting him.

at 70 if the texter was threatening him physically, it might as well been a threat on his life. A theater is full of stairs. An old person isn't guaranteed to survive a tumble down stairs. There is also the possibility that his body couldn't have recovered from a physical assault. He has no responsibility to sit there and accept an ass beating. People have a right to defend themselves. I would also like to stress that I am only arguing under the assumption the texter was the aggressor. I do not feel enough information has been released to come to a conclusion as to who was at fault.

Fish 01-14-2014 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 10369605)
I would guess the wife was trying to hold her husband back. If the texter threatened the old man, the old man really had no other choice. His choices were shoot or take an ass beating. The problem is, this is all based on my own assumption that the wife being shot in the hand is due to her trying to hold her husband back. I'm trying to wait until we get more info before I pass a judgement.

You'd really rather kill someone than take a few punches?

Brock 01-14-2014 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 10369670)
at 70 if the texter was threatening him physically, it might as well been a threat on his life. A theater is full of stairs. An old person isn't guaranteed to survive a tumble down stairs. There is also the possibility that his body couldn't have recovered from a physical assault. He has no responsibility to sit there and accept an ass beating. People have a right to defend themselves. I would also like to stress that I am only arguing under the assumption the texter was the aggressor. I do not feel enough information has been released to come to a conclusion as to who was at fault.

Jesus christ people will attempt to justify anything.

Fish 01-14-2014 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 10369670)
at 70 if the texter was threatening him physically, it might as well been a threat on his life. A theater is full of stairs. An old person isn't guaranteed to survive a tumble down stairs. There is also the possibility that his body couldn't have recovered from a physical assault. He has no responsibility to sit there and accept an ass beating. People have a right to defend themselves. I would also like to stress that I am only arguing under the assumption the texter was the aggressor. I do not feel enough information has been released to come to a conclusion as to who was at fault.

Or.... you know... an asteroid could have landed on the theater and killed him. Therefore, shoot somebody in the throat...

:facepalm:

Tombstone RJ 01-14-2014 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 10369614)
I had an old guy start some shit with me during the preview-previews. The lights werent even down and my friend and I were chatting about whatever, and he wanted us to not talk at all. I told him he wasnt the boss of me and I could talk if I wanted to. He fought with me for roughly 5 mins, and I didnt back down at all. He ended up dropping it.

No one has the right to tell you what to do just cuz they dont like it. I dont give a shit who the dude was texting, he wasnt texting during the movie, and even if he was, he didnt deserve to die over it.

I realize CP is trying to regain its "burst", but ****ing A people....

if it's just previews sure, but you chatty chicks gotta dial it in once the move starts...

kcfanXIII 01-14-2014 12:38 PM

you guys are right. he should have just let the guy beat his ass. what the hell was I thinking...

Carlota69 01-14-2014 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10369682)
if it's just previews sure, but you chatty chicks gotta dial it in once the move starts...

We werent even talking during the previews, we were talking during the still pictures and ****ing stupid movie trivia shit. I kind of made that clear in my post.

Tombstone RJ 01-14-2014 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 10369686)
We werent even talking during the previews, we were talking during the still pictures and ****ing stupid movie trivia shit. I kind of made that clear in my post.

oh, so that is the preview-previews, got it, thanks.

Pablo 01-14-2014 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10369696)
oh, so that is the preview-previews, got it, thanks.

She said as much in her first post.

And LMAO at some of the ****ing loons in this thread applauding/rationalizing this dude's actions.

Brock 01-14-2014 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 10369685)
you guys are right. he should have just let the guy beat his ass. what the hell was I thinking...

No, of course the only logical thing to do is kill a man with your gun in a crowded theater.

Pablo 01-14-2014 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 10369702)
No, of course the only logical thing to do is kill a man with your gun in a crowded theater.

If you're ever frightened or intimidated in any manner; the best policy is to just shoot until you aren't scared anymore.

BigRichard 01-14-2014 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 10369670)
at 70 if the texter was threatening him physically, it might as well been a threat on his life. A theater is full of stairs. An old person isn't guaranteed to survive a tumble down stairs. There is also the possibility that his body couldn't have recovered from a physical assault. He has no responsibility to sit there and accept an ass beating. People have a right to defend themselves. I would also like to stress that I am only arguing under the assumption the texter was the aggressor. I do not feel enough information has been released to come to a conclusion as to who was at fault.

:thumb:

Not enough info but we know the guy is guilty no matter what because the guy was "just texting". Was there something that happened between the texting and the guy getting shot? Sounds to me like there was a hell of a lot going on.

Tombstone RJ 01-14-2014 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10369701)
She said as much in her first post.

And LMAO at some of the ****ing loons in this thread applauding/rationalizing this dude's actions.

sorry, I don't know what preview-previews are... chatty carlota didn't make that very clear. Ironic.

Al Bundy 01-14-2014 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10369612)
Watch out for Mahoney.

Hes a real prankster.

Here's a winning post.

GloryDayz 01-14-2014 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 10369679)
Or.... you know... an asteroid could have landed on the theater and killed him. Therefore, shoot somebody in the throat...

:facepalm:

Here, borrow mine. But give it back, I'm counting on it hitting Mile High at 160,000 mph and the first part splintering off and hitting Payton Manning square in his dick!

Hey, think we can get Manning and Brady to go to a theater and start texting each other? Those Colorado theaters aren't exactly gun-free zones either!


https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...lydYBKZRKDJe9x

Carlota69 01-14-2014 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10369715)
sorry, I don't know what preview-previews are... chatty carlota didn't make that very clear. Ironic.

Who the **** are you? You dont talk to people ever??? Why is that Chatty? Go **** yourself you little twat.

Fish 01-14-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 10369685)
you guys are right. he should have just let the guy beat his ass. what the hell was I thinking...

Sorry, but your justification is bullshit. I'm a huge proponent of gun ownership. But you do an incredible disservice to the idea of personal gun ownership by alluding that people should kill someone over a disagreement that might have otherwise resulted in fisticuffs.

Tombstone RJ 01-14-2014 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 10369728)
Who the **** are you? You dont talk to people ever??? Why is that Chatty? Go **** yourself you little twat.

:)

looks like I pushed the wrong button, sheesh.

BigRichard 01-14-2014 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 10369730)
Sorry, but your justification is bullshit. I'm a huge proponent of gun ownership. But you do an incredible disservice to the idea of personal gun ownership by alluding that people should kill someone over a disagreement that might have otherwise resulted in fisticuffs.

What if it was a 71 year old lady? Would fisticuffs be ok then?

Carlota69 01-14-2014 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10369734)
:)

looks like I pushed the wrong button, sheesh.

Yeah, you insulted me for absolutely no reason. You did it for sport, and Im not going to take your shit. So guess what, you get insulted right back sir.

PunkinDrublic 01-14-2014 12:55 PM

To paraphrase Chris Rock. I'm not saying he should've killed him but I understand.

BigRichard 01-14-2014 12:55 PM

I am actually surprised this hasn't ended up in DC yet. It will be there soon enough. Mods must not be around.

Dartgod 01-14-2014 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 10369743)
Yeah, you insulted me for absolutely no reason. You did it for sport, and Im not going to take your shit. So guess what, you get insulted right back sir.

He's a Donkey fan, Carlota.

**** him.

Pablo 01-14-2014 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 10369750)
He's a Donkey fan, Carlota.

**** him.

This.

Racking up thousands of post over a decade on a Chiefs site.

kcfanXIII 01-14-2014 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 10369702)
No, of course the only logical thing to do is kill a man with your gun in a crowded theater.

You are operating under the assumption it went text, text, bang. I'm operating under the assumption that physical force was attempted and this man defended himself. I never said one was logical, and the other wasn't. I said we don't have enough information about the incident. Does it sound logical that a retired law enforcement official, who is far more trained at interpreting the CCW laws of florida than you or I, would illegally shoot a man? He obviously kept up with his training with his gun, and was composed enough to only fire once. Why was the wife's hand in the way of the bullet if she isn't trying to hold her husband back? There just isn't enough info out there to claim beyond a shadow of a doubt that this shooting wasn't justified.

Pablo 01-14-2014 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 10369730)
Sorry, but your justification is bullshit. I'm a huge proponent of gun ownership. But you do an incredible disservice to the idea of personal gun ownership by alluding that people should kill someone over a disagreement that might have otherwise resulted in fisticuffs.

Back in my day, when two guys had a disagreement, they took it outside and settled it like men!

Nowadays, you just get shot inside a movie theater. Kind of takes the bravado out of the whole scenario.

Tombstone RJ 01-14-2014 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10369754)
This.

Racking up thousands of post over a decade on a Chiefs site.

it's really not that many for as long as I've been a member here...

Fish 01-14-2014 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 10369755)
You are operating under the assumption it went text, text, bang. I'm operating under the assumption that physical force was attempted and this man defended himself. I never said one was logical, and the other wasn't. I said we don't have enough information about the incident. Does it sound logical that a retired law enforcement official, who is far more trained at interpreting the CCW laws of florida than you or I, would illegally shoot a man? He obviously kept up with his training with his gun, and was composed enough to only fire once. Why was the wife's hand in the way of the bullet if she isn't trying to hold her husband back? There just isn't enough info out there to claim beyond a shadow of a doubt that this shooting wasn't justified.

So.... without having all the info, you automatically assume the worst and would retaliate with deadly force?

JFC.....

kcfanXIII 01-14-2014 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 10369730)
Sorry, but your justification is bullshit. I'm a huge proponent of gun ownership. But you do an incredible disservice to the idea of personal gun ownership by alluding that people should kill someone over a disagreement that might have otherwise resulted in fisticuffs.

and I say to you, I have no obligation to take a physical assault without defending myself. There is no guarantee that the attacker will stop, and it IS a life endangering event. Don't want to get shot? Don't start a fight.

Tombstone RJ 01-14-2014 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 10369743)
Yeah, you insulted me for absolutely no reason. You did it for sport, and Im not going to take your shit. So guess what, you get insulted right back sir.

didn't mean to "insult" you. Nice chatting with you... I think. Maybe not.

Pablo 01-14-2014 01:05 PM

Pussification of 'Merica and stuff.

Guys are scared to take a bloody lip anymore, so they have to shoot anything that intimidates them.

kcfanXIII 01-14-2014 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 10369765)
So.... without having all the info, you automatically assume the worst and would retaliate with deadly force?

JFC.....

Obviously if I was involved, I would have all the information, and be able to make a judgment. As I was not there, I don't know all the details. Only some, and I'm left to assume the rest.

Fish 01-14-2014 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 10369766)
and I say to you, I have no obligation to take a physical assault without defending myself. There is no guarantee that the attacker will stop, and it IS a life endangering event. Don't want to get shot? Don't start a fight.

Yeah, OK George Zimmerman. I thought I was talking to a man who could handle himself...

kcfanXIII 01-14-2014 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10369759)
Back in my day, when two guys had a disagreement, they took it outside and settled it like men!

Nowadays, you just get shot inside a movie theater. Kind of takes the bravado out of the whole scenario.

If it was two men of equal stature, I would agree. If Someone in their thirties attacks a 71 year old man, well, that is different.

stevieray 01-14-2014 01:08 PM

...guy must not have seen the ambulamps video...we can debate all day long whether or not he should/shouldn't have shot him...


the real issue is current culture that will stomp you to death for a TV on black friday....things go to eleven almost instantly..self entitlement, looking to be offended, and general lack of common courtesy all make a minor confrontations deadly.

sad....

Tombstone RJ 01-14-2014 01:10 PM

I think it's pretty clear that this 71 year old retired cop lost his marbles. Instead of enjoying his golden years and a nice retirement after serving his community for such a long time, he's gonna be sitting behind some iron bars, probably until he dies.

Dartgod 01-14-2014 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 10369777)
...guy must not have seen the ambulamps video...we can debate all day long whether or not he should/shouldn't have shot him...


the real issue is current culture that will stomp you to death for a TV on black friday....things go to eleven almost instantly..self entitlement, looking to be offended, and general lack of common courtesy all make a minor confrontations deadly.

sad....

All this is sadly true.

kcfanXIII 01-14-2014 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 10369775)
Yeah, OK George Zimmerman. I thought I was talking to a man who could handle himself...

I don't go out looking for trouble, and I'm mature enough I don't feel the need to get into "fisticuffs" anymore. If you want to come start shit with me, that is on you. It doesn't make you more of a man to start fights, just like it doesn't make me a man to have a gun in my hand. That's not what this is about. This is about defending yourself. If that's how you judge manhood just move along because we will never see eye to eye.

Pablo 01-14-2014 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 10369776)
If it was two men of equal stature, I would agree. If Someone in their thirties attacks a 71 year old man, well, that is different.

Well, there was a 28 year difference between the two men.

Are we supposed to assume that a 50 year old man can't reasonably defend himself without a weapon from a 22 year old? Is the difference in age what makes it alright to use a gun to resolve a disagreement instead of engaging in fisticuffs?

Or are you just assuming that all 71 year olds are weak and fragile, and can't fend for themselves?

Pablo 01-14-2014 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 10369777)
...guy must not have seen the ambulamps video...we can debate all day long whether or not he should/shouldn't have shot him...


the real issue is current culture that will stomp you to death for a TV on black friday....things go to eleven almost instantly..self entitlement, looking to be offended, and general lack of common courtesy all make a minor confrontations deadly.

sad....

LMAO

Grandpa stomped the shit out of that guy.

Just Passin' By 01-14-2014 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 10369766)
and I say to you, I have no obligation to take a physical assault without defending myself. There is no guarantee that the attacker will stop, and it IS a life endangering event. Don't want to get shot? Don't start a fight.

If his only orther recourse is going Dirty Harry, the 71 year old man needs to shut the **** up, move, or step back and let the theater employees handle it. Instead, this dipshit apparently decided to play Billy Badass because the guy threw a bag of popcorn at him, and he'll now be spending the rest of his life at the ironbar hotel.

DaWolf 01-14-2014 01:15 PM

If you are not prepped for the possibility of getting your ass whupped in that situation should it escalate, then you should not engage and re-engage in a dispute with the other party. If your only plan is to shoot the individual after initiating the dispute should the dispute escalate, then you belong in jail. I mean, perspective. This was over TEXTING in a MOVIE THEATER...

Tombstone RJ 01-14-2014 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 10369792)
If you are not prepped for the possibility of getting your ass whupped in that situation should it escalate, then you should not engage and re-engage in a dispute with the other party. If your only plan is to shoot the individual after initiating the dispute should the dispute escalate, then you belong in jail...

yep, the old man left to find management and could not find any theatre management, and instead of just moving to another seat, he goes right back to where the guy texting is. Then he pulls a pistol out? Like I said, this guy has lost it. He took a very minor situation and turned it into 2nd degree murder and left a child fatherless.


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