Good thing is the Chiefs are sure to get a chance to draft one of those three, unlike last year when I personnally think they would have picked Tannehill if available.

One of my primary concerns with Barkley will be his ability to put zip on intermediate routes in the NFL. He doesn't have a particularly strong arm to begin with and he is short which will change the trajectory he needs to throw at.

i know it does, it's just there's been too many QB bust from USC over the last 10 years.

Barbecue for Barkley

Speaking of tyler wilson, id love if we grabbed his wr along with him, cobi hamilton.

Hes about bowes size with probably a little more speed.

Get them two, a new right corner, and SS to move berry to free, and id consider this coming draft a home run.

Two? That means they all bust?

And last I checked, both guys are still in the NFL. They weren't JaMarcus Russell. It happens.

That's pretty weak logic.

Yep, that says "Chiefs"!

Boo.

Suck.

Three and they are all still in the NFL.

Barkley may be "safer" because he's a proven four year starter at one of the nation's best universities.

No first round pick is immune to being a bad pick in the NFL but going with the "safe bet" at quarterback isn't necessarily a "bad" thing.

Locker and Gabbert weren't safe bets and I wouldn't take either. It's pretty clear to me that Sarkissian, Locker's coach (and Leinart & Sanchez's coach) coached those guys up big time.

Barkley has succeeded despite being coached by Kiffin.

Three? Who I am forgetting, unless he's saying that Carson Palmer is a bust?

John David Booty was a 5th rounder. I don't think anyone expected greatness from him.

So, he's a perfect match for our mentally-challenged coaching staff?

Iiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting...:hmmm:

At this point, truly ANY of these projected first rounders will be a major upgrade over our current, flaming garbages.

I was adding Palmer to the 10 year list, since he fits in the window.

Ah. Well yeah, he was definitely wrong.

Sanchez may not be All World but he did get his team the AFC Championship and 30 minutes from the Super Bowl in his rookie year and followed it up with another AFC Championship game. If the Chiefs drafted a first round QB that accomplished that feat, I'd be giddy, warts and all.

Off-topic, the Jets need to clean house as well. Tannebaum, Rex, all of them. What a train wreck that place has become.

Tyler Wilson's character issues worry me. I'm not sure I'd trust that guy with $22 million dollars in his pocket. I'd perform serious, serious due-diligence, including extensive psychiatric examinations, before choosing him Top Five.

Something about that dude scares me if I'm a General Manager.

He seems like Jerry Jones material to me.

And what exactly are his character issues?

yeah i know.
as i said earlier i'll settle for either of the top three QB's.
just hope we have a GM and a coaching staff better than the current regime in place to groom him.

He was arrested for public intoxication, he's known to be arrogant and stubborn, and on and on.

All things that most NFL teams don't take lightly these days.

Also, when there's smoke, there's usually fire. I wouldn't be surprised to hear more come out during Combine week and thereafter.

Green Bay will draft him so Aaron has somebody bitch to about mom's nagging phone calls and unannounced visits. The rest of the Green Bay locker room has been getting pretty fed up with it all last time I heard.

^^^ Those things don't really worry me, personally. He's a 21/22 yo student-athlete.

If you're a first time GM whose career depends on whether or not you get that pick right, it's definitely worrisome.

Not many GM's get the opportunity to choose two Top Five quarterbacks.

Is this true?

Curious about this as well.

I think its gonna be Barkley as well. I am ok with it. In the end i really dont care who they pick, as long as we finally attempt to try the young qb.

Im listening to ESPN LA radio right now and during the comercials, you can hear MIke from Mike and MIke talking about the Chiefs havent had a drafted qb win since like 1987. lol National Media is finally on to this shit now.

1983

Well, it is something to take into consideration. To me, a public intoxication and media reports of "arrogance" about a QB who has had a letdown of a season doesn't sound the "abandon ship" bells.

Definitely something to chat with Tyler about as a GM and find out more but it doesn't mean he's a "scary" prospect. Different strokes for different folks though.

I don't know. They might use a 6th rounder, too.

A draft pick that low is a small price to pay for Aaron to stop his goddamn bitching. It's obvious nobody cares about his family problems.

If you've just been brought in as the GM of a franchise picking #1 or #2 overall that's in great need of a quarterback, every little item will be nitpicked to death.

IF that GM is wrong, he's out the door, plain and simple. It happens all the time in the NFL and if I'm that GM looking at two guys with flawless characters in Smith & Barkley (Barkley even more so) versus a guy with a skeleton in his closet, I pass and take the safest selection.

Being the safe selection doesn't mean that you're looking at an untalented QB that's incapable of leading a team, it just means you're taking the safest bet that he will succeed.

Pretty much this.

Especially this year when he's most people's #3 QB at this point. If it comes down to a decision between him and a guy like Geno or Barkley (outstanding off the field character guys), those little tiny gashes in his record will be the difference.

I like Geno but he's just really raw. Barkley is the more polished prospect at this point, with Geno having a higher ceiling and potential. The only thing is potential gets you fired in this league.

Not sold on Barkley. Need someone who can perform without uber talent around him.

Do you have any links to stories about his arrest or arrogance?

I don't know if I like Barkley or not, but I don't think he is too bad. Referring to his arm strength, or lack there of. Not too long ago I was watching a tv program that had Bob Greise on it. He was talking about the Dolphins when he played, and the interviewer got around to his arm strength. I thought it was kind of interesting what he had to say. He commented, that he didnt have the greatest arm strength, and there were others in the league that could throw it longer. He did say, it was not that big of a deal. He compensated for his lack of arm strength, by getting the ball out quicker and anticpating where his receivers were going to be. Made sense to me, and I do remember he was a dang good quarterback.

:facepalm:

Well the knock I keep hearing about Barkley is he has a stud line and what not. I am not saying he isn't good but how much is him and how much is him being protected by a group of studs? :shrug:

The two things I got going against Barkley is one he plays for USC. And two, he wears the #7. God I hate the #7.


That said I think he is cerebral with his throws. He can put the ball on the money and give the WRs best chance to make plays. He has good make to be a top prospect in the NFL that could turn into a top quality QB for long term success. JMO on Barkley.

Dumb

So, Barkley's been a 4 year starter at USC and you've seen NONE of his games?

Thanks for your input, Pete.

LMAO

:rolleyes:

Just for you, Pete. JFC.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep...s-cal-20120922

http://www.foxsportswest.com/09/17/1...lockID=791771&

http://dailytrojan.com/2012/09/18/us...-line-for-cal/

Every one of those articles discuss just HOW BAD the USC offensive line has been this year. There are plenty more.

You're smarter than to act like a dumbass in a thread, Pete.

Stop don't your best Bobtard imitation and stop talking out of your ass.

You're going to roll your eyes?

You're ****ing dumber than I ever imagined.

"I don't want a QB because he wears a number I don't like. Boo hoo hoo".

You need to have your estrogen level checked.

Boom, roasted. LMAO

Not going get pissy with you DaneMcCloud, but damn. I didn't say I didn't want him. I do want him as our QB. Yes I rolled my eyes @ you for taking that so damn serious. Lighten up Francis.

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Barkley is undervalued on this board, and so is Smith. Both are really strong options, and the former is a very high basement.

Oh, just shut the **** up.

You're a moron. Always have been, always will, as evidenced by your post.

#7.

LMAO

I definitely won't be crying if we take Barkley with a #1 pick. I'll just be happy we didn't take a defensive end. We can get a defensive end in the 2nd or 3rd lol...

It's going to be hard for Barkley to bust. The guy has been a successful four year starter on a team that underwent the loss of 45 scholarships and NCAA probation. He could have easily opted out, not only the 2012 draft, but when the penalties were announced.

I'm not stating that he'll be an Elite QB but I will be shocked if he's a very solid, if not spectacular, NFL QB.

I tend to agree. He's shown excellent leadership skills, and this is something this franchise desperately needs.

And I meant Wilson, not Smith in my previous post. Brain not linking to my typing.

I don't give a **** what you think of me. The #7 represents two of my most hated QBs ever play the game and as a Chief fan I would think you understand that. It really has nothing to do with the number though Matt Barkley just happens to wear that number. Your taking me mocking the number 7 too serious dude. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[QUOTE=KC Tattoo;9116402]The two things I got going against Barkley is one he plays for USC. And two, he wears the #7. God I hate the #7.


That said I think he is cerebral with his throws. He can put the ball on the money and give the WRs best chance to make plays. He has good make to be a top prospect in the NFL that could turn into a top quality QB for long term success. JMO on Barkley.[/QUOTE]




What about this part of my post that you ignored? DaneMcCloud Hmmm? Do you agree or disagree with the bold statement?

*remembers when Matt Barkley went toe to toe with Andrew Luck*

Like who?

^ This. Smith has a higher ceiling, but Barkley has a higher floor.

Typically, Barkley does sack up in big games. Really like that he performs in big-time games usually.

I can tell you one thing. It's been so long since we drafted a potential franchise QB that whoever we draft I'm getting their jersey and supporting them 100%. I'm excited. I hope everyone else is, too.

Actually they said the one who sucks the penis we drafted in 83 won us a game in 87.
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You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Just drafting any QB high in the 1st means this franchise is taking a huge step forward..

too bad it most likely won't happen.

I don't understand how the hell this franchise won't draft a QB with the 1st or 2nd pick in April, even if Pioli is still here.

Who the **** else would we pick? No other pick outside of Te'o makes sense. And Pioli wouldn't dare draft another DL after throwing out Dorsey and Jackson.

It's gonna be a QB. If Pioli is somehow here by a miracle, he will have no choice but to pick a QB.

Pioli is exactly why I don't think we will be drafting a QB in the first round.

PIOLI = N0 QB.

Period.

End of ****ing story.

WILL NOT HAPPEN!

:deevee::deevee::deevee::deevee: PIOLI WONT GET US A QB!!!

We don't know what Pioli will do. We do know what he hasn't done and it has screwed this team. No QB but also no HC nor OC no DC which = bad bad performance.

If he is half the GM the NFL ppl thought he was/is he will change the way he has gone about business. I am by no means a "Pioli" supporter but I do believe if you have a bitch then ya better have a solution. Who is your solution?

Not trying to pick you out of the crowd man. You were the last post I read. Just tired of hearing the same o same o

Really like your quote by the way :p

Pioli's gone. I'm sure of it. Clark will clean house.

Wouldn't mind that at all.

I thought one of the reasons why Tyler Wilson was underperforming this year was because he had nobody to throw to?

This is true. There is an extremely high correlation between four year college QB starters drafted in the 1st round and NFL success.

Essentially, if you give scouts 3+ years of college game tape and they still like you, then you're pretty good. Most QB busts happen due to taking a QB that has not excelled for more than a year or two, which helps to hide flaws.

You don't by any chance happen to have six fingers on your right hand?

I'd be down with Chip Kelly and Barkley or Smith. I think if we could make it rain all day, we would get the most out of Jamaal Charles and Payton Hillis, people need to fear our passing game.

His highlights look pretty damn impressive to me. I'd take him with no argument. But, I'll take Smith and Wilson too...so there's that.

I've never been a big fan of Barkley but I do think he will be a solid, if unspectacular, QB in the NFL. IMO, he has the highest floor/lowest ceiling of the top three. The Chiefs just need to take a chance with one of them and just forget about trying to go with one of the 2nd/3rd tier guys in the later rounds.

Actually, they should do both, and have Stanzi compete. Clear out all the old farts and start fresh.

I would love to do what the 'Skins did and take two QBs in the draft. The problem is that there are so many holes on this team, especially if Bowe and Dorsey leave, and only so many picks. Plus, it would be tough for a new coach/GM to go into a season with three QB's that have never taken a snap in the NFL. They will probably sign an aging veteran to be the primary back up and keep Stanzi or Tanney as #3.

Well yeah...I'm hoping we get a new GM, he re-signs Bowe...not sure if I care bout Dorsey...and get a late round QB like Stanzi. Youth movement, without the Herm stank.

Bowe will get the franchise tag if he wants to leave. He could only be let go if Baldwin proved to be a #1 receiver this year, which hasn't happened possibly partly because of Cassell but still... you keep Bowe at all costs.

I kind of liked what I saw of Bray against Missouri. Big arm and accurate,stands tall in the pocket and sees the field well.(reminds me of Mallet) Actually looks downfield(unlike Cassel).

I don't normally like the tall guys but he was impressive to me. I have watched Glennon a couple of times and I don't see how anyone see's Flaco in him.

Barkley has a high floor low ceiling like Sanchez. More upside with Smith, I have watched Wilson and remain unimpressed.

Then you have to sign Albert long term first.