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BossChief 01-06-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 9290526)
If a guy was sacked 30 consecutive games, went to a team that had 6 wins the 3 seasons prior to when he was drafted, went through 3 OCs in 3 season, you'd still give him a chance, wouldn't you?

There were rumors that three teams called StL about trading Bradford...IMO that would have been a no brainier...even if all he got ya was a late first or early second...and that comes from a guy that was higher than anyone else on Sam as a prospect.

Getting RG3 and another premium pick should have been a no brainier, but you guys hired the king of 8-8 in Jeff Fisher, so he is probably in love with Sam.

AussieChiefsFan 01-06-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9290551)
Still no love for Wilson.

Y'ALL GON' LEARN NEXT WEEK!

If Russell goes into ATL and beats the Falcons, would those of you not putting him on your list reconsider?

I nearly put him on my list. Another win would do it.

BossChief 01-06-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9290551)
Still no love for Wilson.

Y'ALL GON' LEARN NEXT WEEK!

If Russell goes into ATL and beats the Falcons, would those of you not putting him on your list reconsider?

Your point is valid. I might be willing to hand over the top pick for him...but I'd have to think long and hard about it.

I think I'd rather have Geno, tbh.

Demonpenz 01-06-2013 10:25 PM

I will start with the No Doubters

Andrew Luck
AJ Green
JJ Watt.

teedubya 01-06-2013 10:58 PM

Stay safe, Poverty ghost.

The QB's I'd trade this years #1 overall for:

Aaron Rodgers
Luck
Griffin

The others are getting too old.
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crazycoffey 01-07-2013 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9290256)
Romo was fringe...but he has all of the tools a QB needs. Great release, plus arm, good pocket awareness, good mobility...I think the dysfunctional Cowboys franchise holds him back, but he is starting to come off as quite the choker even to an apologist like me.

Kaepernick no doubt.

Romo is cassel with a slightly better arm. Slightly.... Romo has over kicked his coverage on the cowboys like he did with simpson

Hootie 01-07-2013 02:24 AM

Slightly?

Romo has a very good arm.

KurtCobain 01-07-2013 02:41 AM

Romo has a crazy impressive release. if we could somehow acquire him and use the number 1 pick on a different position I would not be mad.

Dave Lane 01-07-2013 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9290269)
I'd take 3 years of Peyton Manning for the #1 pick and the rest of our draft.

Last year Pioli passed on him for free.

RunKC 01-07-2013 03:24 AM

Current players worth the #1 pick, not pertaining to the needs of this team, just guys who are worth the #1 pick.

JJ Watt
Von Miller
Joe Thomas
Aaron Rodgers
Andrew Luck
Calvin Johnson
AJ Green



Patrick Peterson and Patrick Willis are debatable. But positional value is key. I also think Luke Keuchly is a BAMF but again, positional value.

mdchiefsfan 01-07-2013 04:20 AM

stay safe poverty ghost. God Damn it!

munkey 01-07-2013 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9290298)
This board is NOT unrealistic.

This BOARD is going to implode when AR doesn't pick Geno...

Rasputin 01-07-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9290264)
basically, I just wanted to see what the expectations were:

so far I predicted as much...

we expect to get an Andrew Luck and some people went as far as to say they wouldn't trade it for anyone, not even Aaron Rodgers

which is ridiculous

First I don't have expectations that Geno Smith is going be an Andrew Luck. Aaron Rodgers would be ok for a few years maybe we get lucky & maybe not win a Super Bowl? There is no NO guarantee in this league for any QB to win a Super Bowl that we go after. What I want is to get our own QB from the draft that we can build a team around that has potential to be great. Geno Smith "could" be that guy. Maybe not but I sure the **** want to find out. I am sick and tired of retread QBs. I didn't want Joe ****ing Montana when we got him. I want our own QB to build a championship team around that could be great for a decade to come.

We can win with Geno Smith I have no doubt about it. We are too stupid of a franchise to find out.

htismaqe 01-07-2013 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by munkey (Post 9291106)
This BOARD is going to implode when AR doesn't pick Geno...

ROFL

If he doesn't pick Geno, it'll be Tyler Wilson. And everyone will be happy.

Rain Man 01-07-2013 09:03 AM

Players who are worth the #1 pick in the draft (assuming we're getting them at their current age):

Robert Griffin III
Calvin Johnson
Aaron Rodgers
Adrian Peterson
Julio Jones
A.J. Green
Jamaal Charles
J.J. Watt
Clay Matthews?

Guys who are worth a top-ten pick:

Patrick Willis
Drew Brees
CJ Spiller
Arrian Foster
Geno Atkins?
Haloti Ngata?
Darelle Revis
Von Miller
Aldon Smith

Players I'd trade our #1 pick for:

Aaron Rodgers
Robert Griffin III

AussieChiefsFan 01-07-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9291295)
Players who are worth the #1 pick in the draft (assuming we're getting them at their current age):

Robert Griffin III
Calvin Johnson
Aaron Rodgers
Adrian Peterson
Julio Jones
A.J. Green
Jamaal Charles
J.J. Watt
Clay Matthews?

Guys who are worth a top-ten pick:

Patrick Willis
Drew Brees
CJ Spiller
Arrian Foster
Geno Atkins?
Haloti Ngata?
Darelle Revis
Von Miller
Aldon Smith

Players I'd trade our #1 pick for:

Aaron Rodgers
Robert Griffin III

JJ Watt over Drew Brees? No andrew Luck?

Rain Man 01-07-2013 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9291325)
JJ Watt over Drew Brees? No andrew Luck?

Brees is in his 30s now, and it'd be hard to give up a #1 pick for a guy in his 30s. That's why Brady and Manning aren't on the list at all.

I want to see more out of Andrew Luck. He got a lot of at-bats this year to produce good production stats, but he wasn't dominating like RGIII was. I'd be tempted to put him in my top ten list due to potential.

Rasputin 01-07-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9291343)
Brees is in his 30s now, and it'd be hard to give up a #1 pick for a guy in his 30s. That's why Brady and Manning aren't on the list at all.

I want to see more out of Andrew Luck. He got a lot of at-bats this year to produce good production stats, but he wasn't dominating like RGIII was. I'd be tempted to put him in my top ten list due to potential.

How many years can you trust RGIII to take the field? Can he make it through a season & playoffs without being hurt? I'd rather have Luck or Russell Wilson than RGIII. I'd take Geno Smith over RGIII for that I think Geno can succeed & stay healthy for long term.

Mr. Laz 01-07-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9290238)
Absolutely none. Pick Geno Smith.

:shake:

so you wouldn't take Aaron Rodger for the #1 pick?



ROFL

ILChief 01-07-2013 11:41 AM

Luck
RG3
Rodgers


Maybe megaton. That's probably about it

Rasputin 01-07-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9291846)
:shake:

so you wouldn't take Aaron Rodger for the #1 pick?



ROFL

I don't give a ****. I've wanted to draft our own QBotf at top of the draft for 20+ years. Hypothetically sounds great to get Aaron Rodgers, I wouldn't be a dummy & not do it. Doesn't change the fact I want to draft a QBotf at top of the draft over any other retread & I don't curr who they are.


There is no guarandamntee that Aaron Rodgers, Tomm Brady, or Peyton Manning would bring us a championship. I also understand that there is no guarandamntee that Geno Smith would either. My feeling is I want us to DRAFT a QBotf PERIOD.

Let alone realistically there is no chance in HELL that Green Bay would even sneeze in the direction of trading away Aaron Rodgers for our first strait up. So why make a case for it?

**** Retreads.

Rain Man 01-07-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9291688)
How many years can you trust RGIII to take the field? Can he make it through a season & playoffs without being hurt? I'd rather have Luck or Russell Wilson than RGIII. I'd take Geno Smith over RGIII for that I think Geno can succeed & stay healthy for long term.

Steve Young and Randall Cunningham had long careers. I suspect they're bigger than RGIII, and of course Young was built like a truck. I see your point about a pocket passer being safer, though.

It's weird to me that every single Super Bowl isn't won by a running quarterback, and in fact they never are. Running quarterbacks scare the bejeezus out of me on defense. It's like having a 12th man lining up at running back. But obviously there's some flaw in my thinking.


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