I'll just wait for Whitlock to take him out to dinner.

Did Dorsey have baby Jack introduce him?

lol

@Jacobs71
Asked Dorsey what skill set does a QB need to be successful in their system. His response: "Win" #Chiefs #NFLCombine

Guess that eliminates geno

Dorsey may get an arrogant prick tag, but it will be impossible for it to equal Pioli's. That one who sucks the penis is the most arrogant mother****er I've ever come across in any sport.

The dinner, the scouts in the first draft, Jackson, The Right 53, it's literally insurmountable.

Yep.

Dude, don't forget the candy wrappers, the locks on the doors, the black and white copiers.

There's no way Dorsey could EVER be as bad. NO WAY.

All of these guys at 1 Arrowhead are arrogant. This is a given.

***** was ****ing abrasive, though, and I don't get that vibe from Dorsey. He's just fumbles around a bit. Example: He explicitly said that he needed to gather his thoughts and then proceeded to compose the most incomprehensible sentence I've heard uttered in some time.

See, I think Dorsey is kind of abrasive.

I don't see Pioli as abrasive.

Devious. Conniving. But not abrasive.

Dorsey is basically the polar opposite of Pioli.

He doesn't grate on me as much as he does on some other people here. He just seems relatively new to it, and I'm sure he'll get better as he goes. He definitely needs a new pair of glasses, though.
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Huh. Not even Pioli's response questions? For example, Kietzman asked him about the "top 2 QBs" in last year's draft, using that exact phrase.

Pioli's response: "Theeeeeee top 2 QBs.....?"

Yes, you stupid mother****er. Quit feigning ignorance and answer the mother****ing question or have the ****ing balls to say that you don't want to answer it.

I don't see that as "abrasive" as in brash.

I see that as flat out arrogant and condescending.

SCOTT ON TV NOW.

HATE METER RISING

NFL Network executive: "You know what guys, I think for our draft coverage we should probably go and get the guy who just got fired and has maybe the worst draft record in the last 4 years. What do you think?"

NFL Network underlings: "Great idea boss!"

Scott: Geno not worthy at #1. Maybe not even at 11-20

HAHA kick rocks douche!

So glad he's gone.

He was fully prepared to take Joeckel.

Yeah...I could see him being abrasive.

I'll be honest, if I worked closely with him, we'd have some '**** you' moments. And those aren't always a bad thing if they're done among guys with a great deal of respect for each other.

That was Pioli's downfall, IMO. He didn't have any respect for anyone so when you gave him back what he was giving you, he made it his mission in life to make you miserable. If Dorsey can take what he'll give out, it will work.

But he's going to have to work with strong personalities, IMO, because he definitely has a command approach to things and that's going to crater some folks if they're not cut out for it.

If you missed the interview, here you go:

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You forgot the worst one - Cassel.

honestly, who gives a shit how this guy sounds? He sounds like an ex-football player/coach/scout... He isn't a presidential spokesperson.

TBH, it's probably set up for Reid to be the face and Dorsey to be the shadow guy. Unlike Pioli, who said he wanted that, Dorsey seems to be more ok with that.

Hopefully.

wait ... people bitched when he didn't talk enough because the fans felt ignored and disrespected.

Now you are saying he 'mislead' people when he said he didn't want to be the media guy?

Are biggest problem is we are too used to Carl Peterson, who was pretty good in front of the camera and in the PR game.

I know people in the Chiefs building that say Dorsey has been the complete opposite of SP. They say he shakes everyone's hand, talks to people like people and is very down to earth.

I have a college friend who works for the Packers and he said he's one of the nicest guys he's met.

I think his on-camer persona is awkward because he's not comfortable in front of it.

So no Star Liutoitlkejraoijel;kdfad.

Wait are you still taking up for the guy?


He always talked about wanting to not be the spotlight, that it wasn't the GM"s job. Yet who was always on camera?

Yep. He always said it was his job to be out of the spotlight. That was the HC's job.

Don't mind Laz. Rational takes aren't part of his catalog.

At least he's doing interviews and not that, "the head coach is the face of the franchise" bullshit that Pioli used as a gimmick to not talk to the fans or media.

This is the way I see it.

What?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine

They are interviewing every GM.

I doubt the NFLPA will approve any contract with less $ than the current one. I like 2 year extension with some combination of signing bonus & third year ballon adding up to $14 mil. Puts cap around 4.33 per year.

That's a little high for his production, but not totally out of whack. I would not be surprised to see him released, make a FA tour then wind up back here.

The NFLPA can kiss John Dorsey's ass. They may not like the offer, but there is nothing they can do if Jackson agrees to it.

Jackson is probably gone though. Either way, I am not losing any sleep over it.

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne
McCarthy on John Dorsey: Always referred to him as Paul Harvey with how he asked questions. ...He's a grinder. He's a hard worker

Since when does the NFLPA have any say in player compensation?

Players are worth what a team decides to pay.

It's the smooth ones you gotta watch out for.

I could be wrong, but I have always been under the impression contracts could be disapproved by the NFLPA. Similar to league review of trades.

Part and parcel of collective bargaining. It is not just you and the team. If you take a pay cut, it affects the other players future pay as well. NFLPA no likey.

:hmmm: what was that incident?

The dinner with Scott, Haley, and some local journalists including Whitlock. It was apparently the first eye opener that they got up close and personal.

Don't get me wrong, I want to keep Jackson. He's good, just not elite. If he's not willing to take a reasonable pay cut, then cut him. Try signing him after he talks to a few teams and sees what his market is. If they are also offering him too much, then let him go. But I don't see that happening, and if he wants a starting job his best bet is coming back here IMO.

NOOOOOO

DORSEY IS THE MATT CASSEL OF GM'S!

NOOOOOO

Nobody gave a shit about Piolis personality when we were winning in 2010 and nobody should give a shit about Dorseys as long as the team is winning.

Mike Vick
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That's what I gathered as well before we hired him, based on all of the comments about him from people who have worked with him. The entire scouting world apparently loves this guy, he is friends with a lot of people around the league, and he is down to earth and friendly and doesn't BS you as a person.

But being in the scouting background for all of those years, the media isn't exactly his No 1 priority, and he has learned from his previous employers that you must keep your cards close to your vest, so he's going to come off as dry and boring to the media, at least during the draft season.

The bottom line with this guy (or any guy) will be wins...

yeah you are wrong.

Vick went from a multi year deal in which he would get over 15 million this season to a one year deal worth 10 with only 3.5 guaranteed.
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Here's the thing, though - he's of no added value to the Chiefs. He has no experience in our system, he's not ever been discussed as a leader in the lockerroom. He's just another guy and if he were a FA, he wouldn't be a guy we looked at highly because he's never operated in a 1-gap and his skills aren't particularly well-suited for it.

So if he goes to the market, I'd let him just come back to us because he'd lose several ties for me.

Jackson's a meh guy. Every team has them, have to to fill some spots. Although if it came down to him or a guy like Sopoagoa from SF, yeah, sorry Tyson, we've decided to go another direction.

And my personal favorite, the media needing an escort to use the pisser.

They're going to reveal our secrets!

Well, he's got some potential maybe. IIRC he was slated to go 10-25 when numb nuts picked him 3. He's worth trying to restructure. Maybe playing outside of Crennels shitty system he can do some good.


Mandating that all blinds in the building be shut was mine. Like teams were going to steal the plays. THAT is why Cassel sucked.

Blinds down, bitch.

my personal favorite was watching the GM pass on pure talent with red flags and having a player on the roster he spent years and resources on to try to cover up with consoling and sweep it under the rug and it was the biggest player with red flag issues the NFL has seen probably ever.

hes promoting "character" to the public and behind close doors that was far from the truth he had the biggest group of trouble makers ive seen on the Chiefs in years

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In his first press I sensed his dickness.

I am thinking that if Hunt had interviewed Dorsey before Ried, Dorsey wouldnt have made the cut. Ried sold him to Hunt.


We'll know in a few months I guess but I'd ****ing hate it to have him as my boss.
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I got over it last time I was wrong.
I probably will get over it this time, too. :(

I'm not sure how this all fits in the discussion, though:

"According to Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer, Vick has signed a three-year contract which, for salary cap purposes, will void to a one-year deal on March 15."
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...8687--nfl.html

Technically, there are 2 more years in the contract for review purposes. It's game playing since, like Jackson's $14.5M salary year, they will never be paid.

So it's a one year deal.
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And it went from over 15 to Max 10.
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Pioli=sleezy car salesman at a high end dealership.
Dorsey= guy sweatin balls in the shop making custop parts for our new red hotrod.
Customer service means less when your putting the best car on the road. Give the guy time to acclimate to his position. And judge him by the talent on the field. And big Andy by the overall play.

you will get the same interview responses from Andy no matter the record, so get used to it. He has his interviewing down to a script and just rolls it out like a robot, will never reveal true feelings about a player or the success or failures of a season. he will always take the blame lol

Hopefully someday they will build a statue of this guy for all the trophies he brought to KC

There is no bigger collection of arrogant asses than CP

What a very christian attitude of you. You set a shinning example.

With all the discussion about Ty_Jax here, consider this. We will most likely evolve into a 43 D during the next several years. So I bet Ty_Jax and his expensive contract are the least acceptable to Dorsey. More than just one incentive to let him walk.

That's an interesting idea. Not really supported by the evidence, though.

If I had to guess I think we bring in a vet arm, let Albert go, sign Joeckel with the first, and tag Bowe again. Later in the draft we get the young arm. Somewhere in there we probably get Colquitt re-signed as well...

Scott Pioli isn't the GM anymore.

What a horrific consequence to a 2-14 season.

Could be a reply to almost every Frankie post. ROFL

Our GM and HC are now from a 43 background. I'm just guessing that's their preferred style in the long run. Except, unlike the fool Piolli, they are not going to try to change everything right away. I wouldn't be surprised if we will be easing into a 43 oriented defensive roster maybe within the next few years.

Just speculation on my part, but considering history.

And oh, BTW, I wish people would read their own body of posts before they'd laugh at others'.

The Packers run a 1-gap 3-4. Just FYI.

And they hired a defensive coordinator that, while versed in the 4-3, has spent the majority of his quite long career in the 3-4.

I wish people would quit making posts that make me laugh.

Agreed, on all accounts.