Well, up until last weekend, it was true.

Well, y'know, if we can both take mulligans, I'll take out the Steelers game and I'm sure the Pats would be looking better too...

But anyway, just to humor you, removing last week's rushing stats for both teams moves the Pats from 4.1 per rush to 4.2 per rush, and drops the Chiefs from 4.8 per rush to 4.65 per rush.

So instead of being over half a yard per rush, it's "only" almost half a yard per rush that the Pats are better than the Chiefs...

:shake:

You can look at YPRush, I look at yards per game-- a stat that would be more beneficial to you using your theory that teams that are behind run the ball more.

Bottom line is I think KC can beat NE because NE hasnt faced an offense like KC's except for week one and they squeaked out of that one--I want to use the word luck--and my initial response to the pats homer that said KC was facing the 'real deal' and KC hadnt faced a defense like NE before.

I will agree with this.

I don't argue that KC mgiht be able to run on NE. You have one of the best, if not THE best, rushing offenses in the NFL. Suffices to say that you MIGHT be able to run on us, but I'm POSITIVE you run offense could run wild on your run defense.

Yards per game is a completely meaningless statistic in every sense of the word, especially if you're trying to determine who has a best defense in a certain category. It doesn't pay attention to any number of factors that might influence it considerably, such as the score of the game, for example. Seriously, it's just not a good metric to derive conclusions from.

For the love of God -- I do NOT have a theory that teams that are behind run more. They run less. I've said so like 3 times, but you keep ignoring it, or else you're just trying to be intentionally annoying.

"Give Mr. Dufrane another month in the hole to think about. Are you catching my drift? or am I still being OBTUSE?!?!?"

Are you sure Dante Scarnecchia is someone's name or is it some sort of flaming hot pasta special?


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There's no doubt in my mind that KC will beat NE. I've never been more sure of anything in my life.

I'm completely confident about this game. Meanwhile I knew that the Saints would beat us last week.

This team is infuriating.

:banghead:

You know, in 2002, John Tait had the largest YPRush average of all KC Chiefs...does that mean he's better than Holmes? All stats have to be looked at in a certain context. Let's just say that NE's run defense hasnt been tested against a team like KC--and the CONVERSE cannot be said which is what prompted me to say before, that KC has faced good rushing defenses and has won, Baltimore being a good example and Alanta being another. NE is nothing special in the rush defense category and that was my point--albeit in a rather crude way.

You said that teams have more success running the ball when they are behind, that means nothing in context of being behind on the scoreboard.

new england needs to win something before they can run their mouth

Precisely why they are so fuggin frustrating. And, why we are so pissed. I mean, everyone knows that the Fins are chitty, they expect to lose every game. Losing sucks worse when you are suppose to be winning games.

IMO, they are just not performing up to their talent level on a consistent basis. They play down or up to their opponents. NOT the mark of a playoff team.

Who's running thier mouths?

Besides 2 championships in 3 years, what do they need to win?

How about some CLASS you idiot,,,,,

That's right,,,,u might of won 2 SB,,,,but your still a bunch of turds,,,
u stupid :cuss:

what does that even mean? Are you calling the Pats a bunch of scum bags? I would have to say, with the exception of Harrison, we are a pretty classy team.

What are you 6 years old? sorry, I'll speak in your broken english.......huh U 6?

Please note, the above message should have had [sarcasm].....[/sarcasm] around it, apparently, in order to be perfectly clear...

Apparently your sarcasm detector needs to be recalibrated.

Me confused...

what r u talking about,,,,,i wuz talikng about the kcchiefs defence not the pats but aparently u mised the point be-cuz im the stupid one sorry 4 the mixup,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

don't let it happen again,,,,,

:doh!:

Sarcasm is difficult to detect on a message board if it's not accompanied by appropriate smilies or if the personality of the poster is not known.

Wrong again,, I am 7 and my momma says the patty melts are going down on monday nightROFL

We're too bitter to use smilies.

Oh, cmon, that one was easy...

Huh, your momma said something or someone else is going down monday night too!




I'm sorry, it was there. I had to take it. :p

I made a smiley flavored soda, but Jones stole it.

:redface:

Sorry, my brain is still recovering from a late Sunday night. Night games really suck on the east coast.

This thread has gone to hell...

I know Im on the east coast as well...I've not watched an entire MNF game since the last time KC played on MNF. Im not looking forward to a week from today.

Ya, trying going to work the next day when you were at the game. I've been dropped off at work on the way home from the game before.









How do I still have a job?

Ouch! I could have done that in my 20's...not now. I'd be a puddle.

Seriously. I was completely WORTHLESS* at work after the Pats Sunday Night Game. 'course we had the game in hand and it was obvious we'd win by halftime, but do I go to bed like someone with any brains at all? Nooo.... :banghead:

(*more so than usual)

I am in my 20's :thumb:

Here are some facts for you.
Teams The Patriots have played
Indy 112 yards rushing Avg. --- 142 against the Pats
Zona 112 avg. rushing--- 31 against the Pats
Bills-1 102 avg. 98 against Pats.
Bills-2 102 avg 37 against Pats
Miami 87 avg. 44 against Pats --OK they really suck!
Seattle 148 avg 77 against Pats
Jets 145 avg 70 against Pats
Steelers 162 avg 160 against Pats
Rams 118 avg 66 against Pats

Chiefs same setup.
Saints 93 avg 127 against Chiefs
Tampa 88 avg 128 against Chiefs
Indy 112 avg 34 against Chiefs-- nice game BTW.
Atlanta 155 avg 111 against Chiefs
Jax 107 avg 66 against Chiefs
Baltimore 127 avg 73 against Chiefs they only ran the ball15 times
Houston 103 avg 76 against Chiefs
Carolina 90 avg 174 against Chiefs
Denver 137 avg 156 against Chiefs

There you go you do the math.

Yeah, well I sat through the loss @ Denver in week 1. It's not so bad when they win, but when they lose, ugh!

As KCTitus noted, and I agree with, those facts are skewed by the fact that the Patriots took an early lead in many of those games.

Per game rushing stats are worthless, IMHO, anyway.

No thanks. I made my point.

Ok so I got a little carried away here. The point I was trying to get across in this was just this. A coment that the Chiefs Run D was better than the Patriots was made in this thread. I only tried to show that there was nothing to back up that statment. As to my statment about not having faced a D like The Patriots. It was more about the Size and speed of the Front 7 that I was talking about not about a style. The young DB added now most are very fast and solid hitters. I regret that it was taken incorectly.

Yes, I made that comment about KC's rush defense being better, which by my statistics it was until last weekend in response to your 'never faced a D like this comment'. At this point, the per game averages are close and that's w/o taking into context the fact that NE's had the benefit of playing with a lead in all but one of it's games.

Baltimore and Atlanta were/are statistically good at defending the run, yet KC demolished them. My point was the NE's defense, at least from a run defense perspective, was nothing special in relation to what KC's already played.

I didnt take it incorrectly, rather, I disagreed with your original assertion.

You seriously in your heart of hearts believe that KC's run defense is as good as the Patriots?

That is amazing to me.

Well, maybe not if you insist on looking at things like statistics and facts...

No, my point was it's nothing spectacular or anything that KC hasnt seen before. I was using the KC comparison to point out just how pedestrian it is.

I understand that you think KC's offense can run on the Pats run defense because KC's offense has run on teams that have as good or better run defenses than the Patriots', statistically speaking.

Let me repeat the question, however, just so I'm sure -- do you or do you not believe that KC's run defense is as good as the Patriots' run defense. That's definitely what you said before, so I just want to make sure I've got a full retraction here. :) :p

My point is it's nothing spectacular or anything that KC hasnt seen before. I was using the KC comparison to point out just how pedestrian it is.

Feel free to ask the question again and get the same answer. Ive been consistent.

Hmmm this thread is worthless. The chiefs are an any given sunday team. They can win or lose, any given sunday, regardless of their opponent.

ooh you got that right,baby,,,,,,,:thumb: