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I think we should all pray that G Rob asks Guinta to be his defensive coordinator at Syracuse. Oh, wouldn't that be too good to be true?
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I completely don't understand this. Carl said there was going to be changes. Particularily on his defensive staff and players. Now WTF is happening? Vermeil is coming in and saying no? We'll not make changes? Is Vermeil over-ruling Carl? WTF? Why doesn't Carl just step in and say no! Dick these guys aren't good enough, we need to make a change. He's the fucking GM, he's got a higher position than Dick. C'mon Carl :cuss: STEP IN AND SHOW DICK YOUR THE BOSS!!!
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If a coach can decide and over-rule over our GM, then, that says a lot about our GM as well. They can both go to hell if that's the case. :cuss: :mad:
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<i>100% agree. He had to be forced in St. Louis and it won them a Super -Bowl. It needs to be done here.</i>
But in St. Lou the GM had intentions of staying and had no intention of letting DV bring him down. Their GM forced the issue. Our GM won't. If CP were to go gay it would be for DV and there's no way he'll force DV's hand in anything. DV in turn won't change his coaches because its just not in him. Look at the whole Robinson saga and how DV was so teary eyed about it. There's no way DV would've fired Robinson and the same goes for the rest of this sorry crew. The Chiefs have basicly wasted 4 years and counting on what could've been a rebuild with a coach dedicated to building a team that was his. |
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I wonder if Gunther can sit there and be satisfied with the coaches Vermeil is shoving in his lap.
If Gunther doesn't demand that serious upgrades in talent are brought in, he should just resign. There's way too many egos at One Arrowhead Drive. Sheesh. |
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In St. Louis, the GM had intentions of staying. That's why he stepped in. Perhaps Carl has no intention of staying... :hmmm: :bravo: |
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CP will have to retire after this year, If the BB can no longer see him as a selfish prick...there is no hope
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The more and more I hear about the Chiefs, and the way they handle their off-season problems, the more and more I think they're a joke. The way I hear the head coach speak, the more I think he's a contradiction. Not only a contradiction, but, an egotistical bastard as well. He's absolutely senile, has no balls, or toughness. The GM is arrogant. Can't even over-rule a HEAD COACH.
the Chiefs deserve to be what they are, 7-9, 8-8. simply cause of the FO down. I can't wait for an entire new over-haul. Here's to 2006 :toast: |
Every time I hear something out of DV about the defense, I lose more respect for him. :shake: It's obvious that this defense is broken. And major changes need to happen this offseason. Why not give Gun the tools he needs? C'mon DV, stop feeding us BS and do your job that you're being paid to do. :cuss:
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"Vermeil was encouraged by president/general manager Carl Peterson to make some moves, particularly at defensive back. "
At least Peterson can see there is a problem. To bad he can't force a change. |
How many times has it been posted here......
We are wasting a Super Bowl winning caliber offense! Over what? Pride? Loyalty? Look at Bellichick in New England. You think anybody on that team, coaches or players, feels that their job is safe after Lawyer Milloy and Drew Bledsoe get the axe? Fear is one hell of a motivator, and unfortunately, nobody has a fear of losing their jobs on this team. Vermeil's players all love the guy to death, but I would guess being in your players' good graces doesn't necessarily make you a good coach (or doesn't mean you'll always make the right decisions). Vermeil is always saying how he doesn't get in his coordinators way. He needs to prove it now by letting Gunther do what he wants to do to that defensive staff. Let him revamp the coaches and the players as he sees fit. Vermeil holding onto these coaches is just a joke. |
IMHO, perhaps the best thing for the organization would be for Peterson to demand coaching changes, have Vermeil refuse and retire and throw money at Romeo to come over to the west.
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I'm glad my subtlety wasn't lost htismaqe.
Contrast Bill Parcells with DV. I pick up the sports page this morning and see where Parcells is trashing his assistant coaching staff. Two (IIRC) heads chopped and perhaps more to come. DV on the other hand not only keeps his but is appearing to make excuses for them. Now Bill might or might not find better heads to replace those chopped but at least he sees a problem and is doing something about it. Is Dick? |
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You gave me hope, Chuck! Hope that Carl Peterson may yet be on his way out! :thumb: |
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DV and King Carl ride off into the sunset together after next year and Pioli comes into KC to start a new era. Hey, it's a possibility.:thumb: |
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Looks like San Diego is gonna win the west by default again. The rest of the teams will continue to suck.
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I'd really like to know if Carl thinks he has gotten what he thought he was getting in Vermeil.
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IMO Parcells has done a shit job coaching the Cowboys so at this point I wouldn't hang my hat on anything he does or doesn't do. He's the biggest coaching disapointment of 2004 IMO. PhilFree :arrow: |
i figured there wouldn't be much change this offseason
Vermeil "loyal to a fault" @ss won't change the coaches peterson's greedy @ss won't change the players pretty much the same team next year IMO i imagine morton is gone because he made Trent Green look bad and that is a Sin in Vermeil's eyes. Holliday will be gone because his contract was structure that way. Barber might be gone because of injury maz might be gone because of injury Blaylock might be gone because priest and larry johnson will both still be here next year. Priest is Vermeil's guy, he's not going anywhere. Larry Johnson is Carl's guy, so he's not going anywhere. That's it 1 wide receiver = filled by samie parker 1 RDE = filled by john Browning 1 OLB = ???? 1 MLB = Maz has already been replaced 1 RB = ??? and whomever we draft So 1 OLB, a backup RB and prolly 1 cornerback someplace, the rest of the team will be basically the same. |
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Keeping the secondary coaching staff is UNACCEPTABLE.
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Guinta to the Orangemen is still a possibility...
Looks like Terry Shea might get his old job back...Jason Verduzco is going to the Cuse to work for Robinson... |
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i have a bad feeling about next year if they aren't gonna change some, if not all, of the defensive coaches except gun and the d-line coach... |
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worse, you're an optimistic blind homer... :p :p :p |
<i>IMO Parcells has done a shit job coaching the Cowboys so at this point I wouldn't hang my hat on anything he does or doesn't do. He's the biggest coaching disapointment of 2004 IMO.</i>
I wasn't commenting on his results. I was commenting on the fact that he sees a problem and is taking steps to solve it. It may turn out that he's the problem but at least he's moving to try and resolve things. DV is apparently oblivious to the problem. |
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I'm sure it wasn't funny when it happened. But, damn!! |
It should be a huge friggen red flag that Guinta has had Bartee and Battle at corner and NEITHER of them have gotten any better.
Vermeil is such a damn idiot. Martz had to drag old ass Bud Carson out of retirement to attempt to fix all of Guinta's screwups, but he helped win a SB ring so he's a god in Vermeil's eyes. The KC media should get some balls and blast this organization at every turn. But they won't because the Chiefs run their organization like a big fish in a small pond. |
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Hence, the thread. But, no, I don't wash my legs every day. Probably every third day, on average. |
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Look at 810's relationship with Peterson as a prime example before Vermeil came along. |
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But I think the KK's and Jack Harry's make such stupid arguments that the average "informed" fan automatically dismisses them as assinine. We need REAL, hard-nosed, and INFORMED media calling out the Chiefs. Petro would be just the guy, but for some reason he's pretty neutral when he's not defending Carl Peterson... |
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Whitlock is the only one who will call a spade a spade. I hope the Star grabs someone from Philly to come cover the Chiefs - that would cause Bob Moore and the rest of the PR spindoctors they have in the FO to have a heart attack. We need someone to call Vermeil's bullshit when he starts talking about Peter Guinta and how tough the schedule is instead of a reporter that will gobble his knob just for 15 seconds of his time. |
What's with this mentality that there is always only one thing wrong? Last year they thought it was the DC and NOT the players. This year they think it's only the players and NOT the coaches? Could a car have engine trouble AND flat tires too? FIX EVERYTHING DV!!
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Negative for negativity's sake. Not because it's warranted. When it's warranted (Greg Robinson last year was a perfect example) they are SILENT. |
Yawn, another career day defense for 2005 :banghead: :mad: :cuss:
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Something like, if I can't have the coaches that I want, then I am the first to go. Well, Dick, just go. |
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I just don't know how my fiancee would feel about living in KC. |
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I was dissapointed in hearing this but I've about all given up on next year so I guess it doesn't hurt so much.
1st the Carl statement on giving the guys another year and now this with DV. Is there any doubt that our defense will be 25th or higher in the league next year? I really can't see it being any different. DV is overrated and he's full of crap. I remember when he 1st got here. "When you're 7-9 nobody's job is safe" and he cleaned house. Now he has his guys in place an nobody's moving. He'd rather play buddies rather than do what's best for the team. :bang: DV. |
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They need to find someone who is young, but is from a solid defensive family tree, and give him his shot. |
I'm now totally convinced that Dick Vermeil sees the defense as nothing more than an impediment to getting his "high-powered" offense on the field. I'm really starting to believe that this guy doesn't care if we stop the other team or not...
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Well, I certainly look forward to another 8-8 season again in 2005! Thanks for nothing DV! You have totally wasted one of the finest offense's and running games the NFL has ever seen for the past 3 years. If I were Priest, why the hell would i want to come back for this Sh9t???
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Can someone start www.firedickvermeil.com already?
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We need all new young blood in the organization from Hunt on down. When that happenes I could stomach a few "rebuilding years" **** these old bastards.
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pretty neutral WHEN HE'S NOT defending carl peterson you just like him because he tells the masse to not overreact about EVERYTHING. if everyone's happy ... he says don't be too happy if everyone's is pissed ... he says don't be too pissed he's just like you ... a contrarian :) he's so busy trying to delute whatever feeling is going on that he's worthless. |
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When it gets right down to it, that's the reason he's neutral. A good amount of research leads one inevitably the fact that reality is neither black nor white...extremes (of opinion) are generally arrived at emotionally, not rationally...it's true of life in general and it's true of the Kansas City Chiefs. In the team's present state, every fan has the right to be upset, and should take every opportunity to let the team know about it. Unfortunately, they've been so overly vocal about things that weren't real problems with the team (running Greg Robinson out on a rail and ignoring the fact we had no talent) that nobody cares to listen anymore...it's like the little boy who cried "wolf". |
How's about we call GRob and ask him to hire Giunta for his DC?
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