That's what booze is for.

Queen. (not Drag queen...unless you're into Rupal)...

In short........Be nice to the women that other guys aren't, and not so nice to the ones other guys drool after. Never kiss the ass(unless its on the way down on a successful adventure) of a broad that other guys chase around.

Be nice to the gals that other guys aren't.

I'm telling you......It works better than 1984 SexPanther.

There is definitely some truth to the idea that confidence is everything. I wasn't a real popular kid in school, but somehow in high school I scored a really hot girlfriend. No one understood how, most especially me. I married her when I was 18, we have a daughter, etc. And we got divorced when I was 21.

What happened to me in the meantime was that I figured out (basically by a stroke of luck) that I WAS actually capable of scoring hot chicks. I pretty much decided I could have any woman I wanted. I mean I really believed it. And guess what? I found out it was pretty much true. When you are convinced you can have any woman you want, they throw themselves at you.

Now-a-days I know better than to truly believe I can have any woman I want, but I still try to have that kind of confidence and swagger when I approach a woman. It's not about being cocky, but just about knowing that there is nothing about this woman that makes her out of your league. If you believe it, she will too. Sure, sometimes I get rejected. When that happens, I figure there's one of two reasons:

1. I didn't have enough time to work my magic. Given more time, she definitely would have wanted me.

2. I didn't really want her. Since I can have any woman I want, i must not have wanted her, or I'd have her.

Try it, it works. :D

Well played. :holdman:

No, the booze is to make them look better.

I do agree with this one, too. If you are nice to the gals other guys aren't, then one of two things happen:

1. The gals that the other guys want pick you instead. They can't figure out why you are hitting on HER instead of ME, so they take you as a challenge.

2. You go home with the girl that the other guys didn't want. Often times she's the best catch of the bunch anyway (i.e. the one most likely to do anal). :D

That's very interesting. I'll make a note.

gochiefs..........I have a friend who has probably poked 1000 women, and i'm not joking. Mostly very fine specimins. He didn't have a chic-tionary....he had a fargin 10gig palm pilot..with broads in every corner of 3 states.

The secret to his success, besides being a decent looking cat, is Baows....and lack of fear of failure. The same guy has probably been turned down by 50,000 women.

I've SEEN him stick his head out a window at a stop sign to a group of gals (when in HS) and say "Hey ladies...which one of you wants to EFF me".....and one jumped in.

Persistance is the key.

I never drink that much.

Hey gochiefs, an old boss of mine had a saying:

"If you walk down the street asking every girl to f**k you'll get slapped a lot but you'll get laid a lot too."

It's all about having the balls to start it off and act like you're supposed to be there. Games will get you nothing but laid, a relationship based on games won't work. Hookers are for getting laid and cost a lot less time and energy than games. Hookers are also a sure thing.

You do know that you are not the guy in your avatar, right?

gochiefs.........I'll caution you on your use of the Prick button....I don't think you should do that without a governor on the carb...

you should start out, by being nice to the gals that other guys ignore, or aren't nice too. Seriously.

Build confidence.

Every man who has ever asked a woman out has been denied. Sometimes Brutally. Walk it off and move on. I guarantee, if you're not a complete prick, and have reasonable expectations, and ask 10 women you've never met, on a date.....one will go.

All bullshit aside, the best thing that could happen to you would be a 35 year old, newly divorced woman.

ROFL

Wait, that isnt' funny. :hmmm:

It's so true.

Not that I recommend that technique exactly, but once you find the balls to go up to any woman and have a chat, you'll find you'll get a lot more positive responses. It's just like anything else. You are more likely to hit a home run in 500 at-bats than in one. You're more likely to get a great photo if you snap five rolls of one subject than one.

You gotta get the balls to just go give it a try. And then you gotta get over the rejection and walk up to the next one. Do it enough times, you're Wilt Chamberlin.

You're all just jealous, cause I've been chatting with babes online all day.

I have no doubt...as far as being a prick I am not really capable of that.

Governor on the carb?

I mean I don't think you have a volume control on what the acceptable decible level of Prickdom would be, to still maintain a reasonable chance of success.


luv2nite is looking for a mandongo.....IM the chic and use your Mojo. You'll be on a moped, heading to III's house to shag in no time.

I agree with this completely, too. First, learn to punch your own weight. Go for the girls the other guys aren't. They're easy targets. That's not meant to be rude, but it's true. They're not as used to being hit on and they're more likely to be flattered by it. You'll build up your confidence, and get laid in the process. You'll also get rejected in the process, and you'll learn how to deal with it.

You don't have to punch your own weight forever, but if you can't punch your own weight, you definitely can't take on the heavyweight champion of the world.

(Not that I'm into the heavyweights). :)

Besides, we both know I'm training to be a cagefighter.

She's just jealous because I type 65 wpm with my tongue.....



As for attraction of chics........I always found laughter to be the best antidote for buttons and victoria's secret elastic.

Agreed. The best "secret" I ever developed was to go up, start a conversation about something that was happening in the same room, then after 3 to 5 minutes say "great to meet you" and walk away. 25% of the time they'd come ask you out later, 25% of the time you could "accidentally" bump into them later and ask them out. Hell, I'd frequently have one of their friends come ask me out after I'd walked away.

The rest of the time I found out by chatting I wasn't interrested or figured I was playing out of my league. If you go in with no pressure on yourself other than to have a conversation it's easier to get the balls up.

Yeah, that's a good technique, and perfect for bars. See a girl you like at the bar? Go get a drink. Stand next to her. Chat it up about anything that comes to mind. See what you think. Tell her it was nice to meet her and walk away.

Like you said -- they often come back looking for you later. Or you see them later and have a good reason to say hi and chat again (you already met). And if neither happens, you didn't lose anything but a few minutes at the bar -- and you got a drink, so even that was worth it. :)

I can't wait until kcchiefsman weighs in on this subject. I'll take notes.

I think the only surefire way to attract women is to be rich.

I have a couple chat logs with a chick I met on plentyoffish.com...anyone want to "critique" them?

Or look rich. I am by no means rich, but I do drive a decent looking car (which I lease), have a fairly nice apartment (which looks like a million bucks but doesn't really cost that much), and wear nice-looking clothes (which are Gap, but can easily pass for Prada or D&G, at least to most of Manhattan's college girls). :D

It seems to help.

Sure!

The part of my brain that controls the filter between my brain and my mouth says, "No Way!" However, the part of my brain that makes me look at car wrecks while checking for body parts in the road says, "HELL YES!"
:hmmm:

Every part of me says "HELL YES!" But then, it's possible I was born without that filter you are referring to.

Also, Gochiefs, getting women hasn't got much to do with instincts. It has a lot more to do with social skills that are learned by trial and error and watching what seems to work for others. I'm assuming you don't have a lot of friends to help you out with the latter. But a couple of years ago Austinchief offered to wingman for you to help you become more comfortable around women. I can't think of anyone more qualified to help you out than Austinchief. But, IIRC, you weren't interested in his help. You should have jumped on that opportunity and maybe you still could although it seems you've moved from that area since then. At any rate, if you know someone that does well with women it sure wouldn't hurt to tag along if possible. Something else you might try is to get a job as a bartender at a popular place near you. That is a built in reason to talk to lots of women. Everybody will talk to the bartender and it's his job to talk to the customers. I never loaded so many women in my life as when I bartended during my college years. Just an idea.

Very well....flame away.

I have some pics of her as well...I don't know why I bothered talking to her, she was clearly out of my league.

http://jastermereel.homestead.com/files/chat.htm

Or you could try hanging out at abortion clinics. I hear there are lots of loose girls there.

Post the pics, beotch!

That was.....icky. The best advice you're ever going to get is "Get off the internet and into the real world".

As soon as everyone's read the chat log. :D

:hmmm:

I thought it was a tin-foil wrapped cucumber stuffed down the front of spandex pants....

ROFL

I'm not really sure what happened here, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't good for you.

Get some. Not having pictures of yourself when chatting online is like not having a baseball bat when you step up to the plate.

Why, they aren't of the guy, er, "girl" he was chatting with...

You've never seen Spinal Tap have you?

Still reading, but, I probably wouldn't have gone into this:

It's a bit too "I want you to be my friend and console me," as opposed to, "I want to hump your brains out."

To your credit, you got off it pretty fast with the "bfett81: its not a big deal lol".

Why? She didn't like rap.

:shrug:

Don't get so excited. Tell them you think they look good, but don't overdo it. Saying, "OH MY GOD YOU ARE SO HOT I LOVE REDHEADS" makes you sound desperate (which you are, but don't let them know that). :D

I have some now...this chat is from months ago.

May I offer some advice?

Some gals may not take too well to the euphemism, "Draining the lizard."

That's kind of risky. I know you were trying to be nice, but you never know how they're going to react to something like that. I'd avoid it. Looks like it worked out okay for you i this case, though.

At least you know it was a cliche. I'd probably think of something else to say, even if you did really like her eyes.

How many good looking young chicks are Internet dating AND don't have a schlong?

Best case scenario she probably has some pretty serious emotional issues, after all she is still living at home and making liquor runs FOR HER PARENTS...

Of course we are talking about goatcheese here...

And you thought the orchestral soundtracks were a nerd alert? Stay off of the gmail talk, man. It's not very much of an aphrodisiac.

Also, get the introductions out of the way a long time before this point.

Oh man. You are hopeless. :)

Say this to your wife after 30 years of marriage, not to a girl you're trying to pick up on!

If she's not interested in me because of those things, I didn't need her shallow ass anyway.

One thing I noticed in the chat was you were acting too eager. Help with this, compliment that, help with something else...

She's already established you don't have a life if you're available all the time to some stranger. Now, some girls are Ok with that but those are the type that want to run your life and they're the worst kind IMO.

jcroft, with your in depth analysis at it's current pace, one of the Mods is going to change your user name to Dr. Phil. You were warned. :D

ROFL Yeah, you're just waiting for the RIGHT ONE. ROFL

Now I have to tiptoe around the american vernacular? I thought I was supposed to have some balls.

I'm also not much for wine or beer. But, I wouldn't tell them that if you don't have to. Some (stupid) girls will take this to mean you aren't sophisticated (wine) or manly (beer). Find a few cocktails you like that aren't too girly for when you meet in person. As someone who seems to make a habit of being mistaken for gay, I can assure you that people make judgments based on what you are drinking (it's stupid, but they do it).

gochiefs is definitely no "bloodninja"

ROFL

Another hint: she's not a guy, you putz. Most females don't like to be spoken to as if they were one of your guy friends.

I gotta be me.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

That sounds all swell and good but you have to decide what your core beliefs are and be ready to comprimise the rest.

I'm not the same man I was when my wife and I met. I do things differently. I work more, I'm more focused, etc. I would happily space off for a week or more before we got together. However, I wasn't dead set that I would space off, it wasn't a core value. So I comprimised that out of my life.

Also, your nerd-dom isn't a core value. I NEVER speak to my wife about the details of my work. She couldn't care less. It isn't who I am anyway, no more than gmail is who you are.

"I gotta be me"

In that case dude..........you need to just find yourself some Half ton Home Bound (Gilbert Grape's mother) and pretend she's Jabba the Hutt.

Okay here is my advice,

I'm not the best at picking chicks up, kinda of on the shy side, but when I do chicks love me. Be nice, compliant them on everything, be a man that is the most important thing. Tell them the cool stuff about you, not geeky stuff. Also about the money thing, I will admit my family is fairly well off which, we are not wealthy but we live very comfortable, is something I try to avoid at all costs around girls. One I want them to like me cause of who I am and not because what we have.

Also a big thing is the apartment/pad/house this is the big key. If you are a college age guy, the beer posters and playboy pictures are fine for a dorm room but if you live off campus dont put that stuff up. Make your living area look like a man's place and not a kids. Get some art work for the walls and fake plants, mirrors look cool. Trust me, chicks dig my place.

Okay, overall, you're not so bad, Mr. Gochiefs. The most important thing I can say is avoid that nerd talk. Some girls like nerdy guys. But that doesn't mean they want to talk about digital cameras and gmail. It means they think it's cute if you have glasses and are kind of skinny. If a girl really is a geek herself, you'll figure it out and you can talk about gmail to your little heart's content. Until then, just stop it. :)

Also, I'd probably avoid telling drunken stories right away -- although this girl didn't seem to mind it.

The other big thing here is that, while it wasn't really a BAD conversation, you didn't seem that interested in getting to know her. I think you ought to be asking more questions about her. Where's she from? What's her family like? What kind of music does she like (you kind of got into this a little bit)? What does she like to do for fun? Where does she work? Etc. Girls, in general, love to have a guy really talk to her and seem interested in getting to know more about her.

And don't forget to ask if she does anal.

Those things aren't part of my "core values" either. That's all the more reason she shouldn't have a problem with them. If she does.... :shake:

as much as you talk about Anal, its no wonder people think you're gay.

between that, and the Abercrombie Turtleneck...you just might be.

I understand the attitude, but my point is this: girls don't want to TALK about it. It's not bad that you're interested in it, but she's probably not. You've got to find things to talk about that she is interested in, or you're bore her.

Oh another thing, if you have a girl that is really good friend have her help you shop for clothes. Girls pick out stuff they like for you, and you get to reap the rewards.

Poor thing. If she'd only take the time to get to know the real Boba. ROFL

1. I always found the more I complimented them the more they wanted to introduce me to their fat, ugly friend.

2. Don't show them that mirror on the ceiling above your bed. Let them find it themselves.

3. Fake plants are a guy's best friend. If you can keep real ones alive that's even more impressive, but I never could.

You've got to feel a girl out before you know if you can say stuff like that around her. It's not good first-date or first-chat material. Some girls will find it offensive or simply stupid. Others won't mind. Find out which she is before you start saying stuff like that. Most, I think, will feel that it makes you sound immature.

Thanks for the pointers. I'll add that I haven't spoken to Ms. Girlused since this encounter.

I agree with this 100%. As a non-college guy (I'm 28) who regularly picks on on college girls (hey, I live in Manhattan), I can assure you that they love this kind of thing.

However -- get real plants, dude! Damn! :)

I have neither a single piece of Abercrombie gear nor a single turtleneck in my wardrobe. :)

If I had real ones they would be dead.