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CHIEF4EVER 09-01-2005 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Eye Patch
I hear ya.... gets that way when I'm selling drugs to choke fans when another one of their season hopes are dashed... yet again.
You should talk about hopes being dashed? We have owned your crappy thuggish "team" at a rate of 2 to 1 since 1990. When residing in a glass house, one shouldn't throw stones..........btw, if you guys want to practice and/or play in the Coliseum, just call 1 Arrowhead Drive. We'll lend the keys to you at a nominal fee.

RaiderCorporate 09-01-2005 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Nzoner 338
This is why I love Raider fan,wiser and competent= a qb who has 154 career INT vs. 153 career TD's and in the biggest game of his career choked and threw only 1 td,which just happened to be to the other team.

I will say you're correct on the history of KC,however,I sleep very well at night knowing that KC still holds the upper hand in head-to-head match-ups with the silver and black and that even when your team had Gannon they still couldn't get the job done and Rich set a record for INT's in the biggest game of his career.
Collins seemed to improve dramatically last year in his final 5 of 6 games. His performance in the preseason thus far has been very good. Yes, he still makes mistakes; there seem to be fewer mistakes, however.

I am suggesting history is not necessarily useful in predicting how one person - or one team - will do tomorrow. If you believe history repeats itself then woe to Collins and Oakland by extension. It also means your team will keep breaking your collective hearts if ever they reach the playoffs again. That you can be satisfied with that knowledge… wow. But hey, at least you can sleep at night, knowing your team still holds the upper hand in head-to-head match-ups vs. Oakland, right?

Eye Patch 09-01-2005 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CHIEF4EVER
You should talk about hopes being dashed? We have owned your crappy thuggish "team" at a rate of 2 to 1 since 1990. When residing in a glass house, one shouldn't throw stones..........btw, if you guys want to practice and/or play in the Coliseum, just call 1 Arrowhead Drive. We'll lend the keys to you at a nominal fee.
Didn't know they gave out trophies for a head to head play for the selective window of the 90's. Maybe you could post those shiny objects for all to see.

But I understand your dilemma… when you have nothing to show you gotta go with what you got….

But if you want to compare awards for things that really count in football… you are not even in the same league.

Eye Patch 09-01-2005 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan
nlmnlmnlm**** the RAiders..........now I know they understand that.
ahhh... looks like another one of my potential drug customers.

I could sell you all the drugs in the world… but that’s not gonna help your depression.

I would recommend you pick another team.

Oh and thanks for the neg rep... proving that my words sting.

RaiderCorporate 09-01-2005 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by CHIEF4EVER
You should talk about hopes being dashed? We have owned your crappy thuggish "team" at a rate of 2 to 1 since 1990. When residing in a glass house, one shouldn't throw stones..........btw, if you guys want to practice and/or play in the Coliseum, just call 1 Arrowhead Drive. We'll lend the keys to you at a nominal fee.
Yeah, your team is great! Let's see... since 1990... 15 years, 30 games, 20:10 ratio... so your team is 10 wins ahead, correct? No? Oh... well, maybe that's because you forgot the first 30 years. What was the win loss ratio like from 1960-1989?

I'll remember your advice about glass houses. Did you think that up all by yourself?

ROYC75 09-01-2005 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RaiderCorporate
Then again, history suggests your team won’t participate in the Super Bowl during your lifetime. History’s a funny thing, yes?

Hey, I have seen one....... matter of fact, I have watched both times we were there on live TV. But it has been a long dry spell, one we hope will end soon.

As for the Raiders, you aren't going to get any love here. 4321 :D

DaKCMan AP 09-01-2005 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by foxman
I think the thing with them is that they have 3 wideouts that can hurt you. If it were just Moss and Porter then we could manage that somewhat IMO. When you add Curry as another threat, that kind of stretches the corners and safeties more than I'd like to admit.
They actually have 4. Doug Gabriel can make plays too, especially against the dime cb.

David. 09-01-2005 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man
I'm somewhat afraid of the Rai ders off the field. I'd hate to get caught in the middle of a drug deal gone bad or something.
ROFL

Rain Man 09-01-2005 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RaiderCorporate
Yeah, your team is great! Let's see... since 1990... 15 years, 30 games, 20:10 ratio... so your team is 10 wins ahead, correct? No? Oh... well, maybe that's because you forgot the first 30 years. What was the win loss ratio like from 1960-1989?

I'll remember your advice about glass houses. Did you think that up all by yourself?
Actually, by my count it's a 22-8 ratio since 1990.

Add that to a 23-34-2 record from 1960 through 1989, and we end up with the Chiefs being 45-42-2 against the Raid ers. Clearly, the Chiefs are the better team.

RaiderCorporate 09-01-2005 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ROYC75
As for the Raiders, you aren't going to get any love here. 4321 :D
I guess I'll have to live with the disappointment. On a positive note, though... after I become expert at living with disapointment I can better understand what it means to be a chiefs fan!

RaiderCorporate 09-01-2005 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man
Actually, by my count it's a 22-8 ratio since 1990.

Add that to a 23-34-2 record from 1960 through 1989, and we end up with the Chiefs being 45-42-2 against the Raid ers. Clearly, the Chiefs are the better team.
That's all there is to it? 3 wins better after 89 games and so "clearly better?" That's good to know! It doesn't matter if your team wins the division title for the next 10 years, or has more playoff wins or Super Bowl wins than than mine. All my team has to do is get three head-to-head wins ahead of your team and they will be "clearly better." Simple.

vailpass 09-01-2005 11:08 AM
CBS Sportsline thinks you should fear the Raiders:

Gridiron Guru: Riding on the QB-go-round





Sep. 1, 2005
Michael Fabiano
Senior Fantasy Writer

Tom Schmidt: Who would be your selection between these three quarterbacks: Marc Bulger, Kerry Collins or Michael Vick?

G.G.: Collins has a chance to be one of the top five quarterbacks in Fantasy Football this season and is the best option. The veteran has a list of weapons that include LaMont Jordan, Randy Moss, Jerry Porter and Ronald Curry at his disposal, and the Raiders will throw the ball downfield a ton.

Furthermore, the defenseless AFC West will offer little resistance to what has a chance to rival the Colts as the best offense in the league. His value falls a bit in leagues that penalize points for interceptions, but overall it's hard to pass on Collins.

BIG_DADDY 09-01-2005 11:08 AM
All I can say is we better beat the Raider if we are going to go anywhere at all. I will be on the field for the game here in Oakland.

Rain Man 09-01-2005 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by RaiderCorporate
That's all there is to it? 3 wins better after 89 games and so "clearly better?" That's good to know! It doesn't matter if your team wins the division title for the next 10 years, or has more playoff wins or Super Bowl wins than than mine. All my team has to do is get three head-to-head wins ahead of your team and they will be "clearly better." Simple.

Yeah. You got it.

My criteria may change in the future, though.

buddha 09-01-2005 01:39 PM
Fear? Hell no.

The way you attack the Raider's offense is to rush the hell out of Collins. Mr. Happy Feet will start spraying the ball all over the field as he has every other year of his career. If we sit back and play conservatively, we will get carved up.

Our offense should dominate their defense.

Dr. Johnny Fever 09-01-2005 01:53 PM
I only fear the The Raiders may get some on our stadium and I'm not sure if we can clean it off.

Halfcan 09-01-2005 02:06 PM
How did eye patch get so many good rep points in 176 posts? Do we have some closet raider fans lurking around here? I think this needs a full investigation followed by strict banishment and firing squad for anyone giving good rep to raiders. Whats next Chiefs and Bronco fans holding hands and taking long walks together. Osama marrying one of the Bush twins and being George's son in law. Someone restore order in this world.

Hammock Parties 09-01-2005 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Eye Patch
You better stick to choke football... because you don't know sh*t about Raider football.

To think that Tyler Brayton is a player who's going to be helped by the new scheme proves one of three things... A: you don't watch Raider football... B: you don't know squat… or C: all of the above.. which would be more accurate.

Tyler couldn’t cover the ground he was responsible for with a 3/4 alignment… how in the hell is he gonna do well in a 4/3 since he will have more ground to cover.

He is a DE that is “trying” to being converted to a OLB. If I were the chokes I would dump halfback tosses his way and watch him grab some air. He’s a great kid with a big heart and a great motor but IMO he is lost out there.

and if you think that Warrnen Sapp will not be helped by moving back to a position that he has played for years and as a pro bowl player... and also having big Ted Washington playing the middle who always sucks up two o-lineman… then I understand why many knowledgeable football fans usually ignore your tripe.

Whoa...Brayton's not being moved back to end? The Raiders are even more stupid than I had initially believed...

Sapp might be helped, but not enough to make him a force. He sucks.

Hammock Parties 09-01-2005 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RaiderCorporate
If you believe history repeats itself then woe to Collins and Oakland by extension. It also means your team will keep breaking your collective hearts if ever they reach the playoffs again.
Collins is still the same QB he has ever been.

The Chiefs team is pretty different. They added key parts. They will improve.

Did Collins get a brain transplant? If so, he will improve.

Calcountry 09-01-2005 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
They are going to have a killer offense and no defense. We should know as well as anyone that that can lead to victory or loss. I hope we can sweep them but I would certainly not bet on it.
That is what I have been trying to remind all my Raider friends. hehe.

Calcountry 09-01-2005 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gochiefs
You're a complete tool. What are you going to say when the Chiefs trash the Raiders this year and vindicate me?

ANYONE that plays the "football knowledge" card is only playing it because they don't have a logical response.
Cool it Chiefie. I hope you know more about football than you do baseball. ;)

Calcountry 09-01-2005 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gochiefs
Seriously, when someone comes into the thread and IMMEDIATELY disrespects someone else instead of debating or responding to their opinion....that's just total bush league.
Lighten up dude, this is a BB. You take it way too seriously.

Calcountry 09-01-2005 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Taco John
If we had the KC Chiefs defense, I'd be scared of Oakland.
Dude, good news. I hear we might be able to improve our running backs. There was this dude that got cut the other day, a 3rd rounder.

Calcountry 09-01-2005 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gochiefs
You probably didn't think our offense was going to get better either.
He definitely thinks that Denver has the best running backs in the league. ROFL

Calcountry 09-01-2005 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by alanm
So TJ... How do you feel having the Cleveland defense?
:)
rep

Calcountry 09-01-2005 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
All I can say is we better beat the Raider if we are going to go anywhere at all. I will be on the field for the game here in Oakland.
What position are you playing. ;)

Nzoner 09-01-2005 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Eye Patch
Didn't know they gave out trophies for a head to head play for the selective window of the 90's. Maybe you could post those shiny objects for all to see.

But I understand your dilemma… when you have nothing to show you gotta go with what you got….

But if you want to compare awards for things that really count in football… you are not even in the same league.
Who needs a trophy for head-to-head,the pleasure of knowing it chaps Davis' ass to no end is all a Chiefs fan needs.

CHIEF4EVER 09-01-2005 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Nzoner 338
Who needs a trophy for head-to-head,the pleasure of knowing it chaps Davis' ass to no end is all a Chiefs fan needs.
ROFL Yes indeedy. There is almost nothing on this Earth that is more sublime than seeing the look on that shriveled jumpsuit wearing trolls face when we deliver yet another azzwhippin to his Faders.

Nzoner 09-01-2005 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CHIEF4EVER
ROFL Yes indeedy. There is almost nothing on this Earth that is more sublime than seeing the look on that shriveled jumpsuit wearing trolls face when we deliver yet another azzwhippin to his Faders.
I'll never forget being at Strams HOF induction 2 years ago,when Lenny pushed him out in his wheelchairthat prick Davis was the only one on stage who didn't stand nor clap.Fock him and his team.

Rain Man 09-01-2005 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Nzoner 338
I'll never forget being at Strams HOF induction 2 years ago,when Lenny pushed him out in his wheelchairthat prick Davis was the only one on stage who didn't stand nor clap.Fock him and his team.

Seriously? That's inexcusable.

CHIEF4EVER 09-01-2005 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man
Seriously? That's inexcusable.
No doubt. What an azzwipe.

Calcountry 09-01-2005 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Nzoner 338
I'll never forget being at Strams HOF induction 2 years ago,when Lenny pushed him out in his wheelchairthat prick Davis was the only one on stage who didn't stand nor clap.Fock him and his team.
Seriously, Fock Al Davis. The City of Oakland got FOCKED by him not once, but TWICE. The second time they enjoyed it so much, that they blindly FOCKED the A's in the process by building Mt. Davis in center field. To this day, it has yet to be filled consistently.

I say again, FOCK DAVIS!!! :banghead::mad::cuss:

CHIEF4EVER 09-01-2005 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Nzoner 338
I'll never forget being at Strams HOF induction 2 years ago,when Lenny pushed him out in his wheelchair
You lucky dog, I wish I could have been there to see Hank's induction.

Nzoner 09-01-2005 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man
Seriously? That's inexcusable.
Seriously,he and his band of misfits were already #1 on my hate list(with the donks very close behind) but that incident solidified their ranking forever.

milkman 09-01-2005 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Nzoner 338
I'll never forget being at Strams HOF induction 2 years ago,when Lenny pushed him out in his wheelchairthat prick Davis was the only one on stage who didn't stand nor clap.Fock him and his team.
This act of disrespect is just another display of Al Davis' lack of class.

He can not, for one second in time, put aside his hatred of Lamar and the Chiefs to give a deserving man his due.

I hope he chokes on the grease that drips from his hair.

go bo 09-01-2005 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man
A rolling Moss soon gets stoned.



That has nothing to do with the topic, but I had to share it anyway.
can i get a ride with this rolling guy?

Ugly Duck 09-01-2005 07:30 PM
So far in the Oakland - O'leans game:

Raiderz run kickoff back for a TD.

Called back on a holding penalty.

Raiderz march down the field - 27yd TD to Randy Moss.

Sapp stops NO on 3rd down. Saints punt.

Raiderz put second team in.

Uatu 09-01-2005 07:31 PM
Lots of people are scared of the Raiders. Many of them are in the witness protection program.

milkman 09-01-2005 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck
So far in the Oakland - O'leans game:

Raiderz run kickoff back for a TD.

Called back on a holding penalty.

Raiderz march down the field - 27yd TD to Randy Moss.

Sapp stops NO on 3rd down. Saints punt.

Raiderz put second team in.
Not that a makes a whole lot of difference, but how the hell did a LB wind coverng Moss on that play?

Ugly Duck 09-01-2005 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SideWinder
how the hell did a LB wind coverng Moss on that play?
Uhhh.... Turner is a geniuos?

milkman 09-01-2005 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck
Uhhh.... Turner is a geniuos?
ROFL

Tha is the funniest joke evarrrr!!!

go bo 09-01-2005 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gochiefs
Yep. I have learned absolutely ZERO about football by watching it.

:shake:
that's because your a moran... :harumph: :harumph: :harumph:

milkman 09-01-2005 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by go bo
that's because your a moran... :harumph: :harumph: :harumph:
I thought he was a Mormon.

Or are you saying that he's related to Erin Moran?

Ugly Duck 09-01-2005 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by go bo
that's because your a moran... :harumph: :harumph: :harumph:
I love you....

Mr. Kotter 09-01-2005 10:12 PM
Does anyone have any doubt that the 3 "yes" votes are UD, SNR, and whatever the most recent incarnation of the obnoxious, banned Raider fan (or perhaps Duhnise....heh?)?

Could be Overhead I suppose? :hmmm:

Hammock Parties 09-08-2005 11:06 PM
HAHAHAHA!


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