ding ding ding. Thank you

Thank you, I've been looking for that excuse. Think my parents will buy it?

Good lord, don't go down that road. Plus you won't find one with benefits, unless you go union. Wages for construction jobs have been stagnant for years due to a large influx of cheap, illegal labor. Don't do it don't do it don't do it!

Thank you to those of you who posted with understanding. Sorry I haven't replied to some of the posts. I was not doing cocaine instead of replying to you. I started this thread to see what some of you thought about my situation - it does mean something to me. Again, thank you guys.

You'll never be able to stop something that you tell yourself that you can't stop. Just like you chose to smoke, you can chose not to. All you have to do is decide whether you're a smoker or not. You've obviously decided that you are a smoker. That's your choice. You can just as easily decide that you're not a smoker. It's actually a decision you can make. And when the urge hits you to smoke, you tell yourself "I'm not a smoker," and make the decision not to smoke and move on to the next thing. You just keep doing that until the urge finally dies because it's no longer a part of you.

For my part, I don't have a problem with MJ. I think it's better than alcohol, and don't see it as a threat in society. But it's not serving your better interests right now, and indeed, it's probably always going to be your own personal gateway to the other stuff that you don't need in your life. That's something that you don't want to hear, and like the other stuff that you don't want to hear in this thread you'll probably tune it out. That's fine. It's your choice. If you think you can control the MJ and do it only in "moderation," then go for it. Just make sure you're clear on the definition of "moderation." Once a week is moderation. Once a day is not. I personally think you'd be better served by telling yourself that you don't need it in your life right now, but you seem to think you need it, so I won't begrudge you for it. It's a place to start. If you can kick everything else, and only smoke weed in moderation, you're a lot better off than a lot of people. I don't think you can do it. The sense I get from reading your post is that you'll use it as a crutch, and when something else bad happens, you'll tell yourself that you can handle it just this once, and end up climbing the ladder again. You'd be better served, IMO, to get both feet on the ground, clean and sober, and if life throws you a curveball and you feel you need an escape, at least there's a rung you can go to that isn't going to completely wreck your life. I think that's a dangerous way to use drugs, but that's the choice you seem to have been making in your life, so it's up to you to manage, not me.

The bottom line is, if you want to make the best decision for your life right now, it's pretty clear what you need to do. You need to take your grandparents up on their offer with the intention of getting clean and getting on the right path in life. Whatever you do, you need intention in your life. If you don't get that intention, life will drag you around by the nose, and all you'll be able to do is follow it because you'll be too weak to do anything else and everything else will sound like such an astronomical leap that it's impossible. Once again it comes to making choices. You need to decide what you want in life, and then look at your opportunities with that in mind.

It sounds like you don't want to be a loser. It also sounds like you don't want to make the choices that will get you out of the losers path. Instead, you want to blame others for your lot in life and hope for the best. That's not how a mold is broken. A mold is broken by choosing a different mold. I have friends who have had it rough, but instead of wallowing in their past, they've closed the book on it and look towards the future. They use their past as a reminder of what they're not, and look to the future with anticipation of who they are now and what that will mean to their future. This is where you need to be. Everything you have in your life, you can project thoughts about toward the future and relatively guess where it will get you in life. These projections aren't Miss Cleo. They're common sense. Try it sometime. Next time you make a choice, any choice, ask yourself, "where is this taking me a year, two years, five years from now?" If you bother to think it through, and not just bury the answer because you don't like it, you'll have a tool that you can use in life to help you make better decisions. That's what you need right now... Better personal resource tools. Stuff to help you use your brain and help you to get in control of your out of whack urges.

You have the personal resources you need to pull yourself out of the nose dive. You simply need to take responsibility for where you are in life, and start using your will to make decisions, instead of letting the habits your body craves take over that will and make those decisions for you. The good news about body craves is that they go away once your system is flushed of the toxins. All you have to do is decide what is and isn't you, and then act on that decision. It's really that simple.

Conclusion: 1) Taco sucks at counseling.
2) Taco = pothead

I smoke about 4 times a day and have been for about 2 1/2 years now. I used to think that I operated on mj. It has been my jesus; my cross.
I know I can't go on like this without getting a grip. You hit the nail on the head

Goals are overrated.

I don't smoke on days I'm hungover.

Ah, so you are a religious man... :rolleyes:

You come on here asking for advice when all you do is ignore the good advice or give excuses why you can't follow it and when someone comes along and gives you support for what you are currently doing (being a dumbass) then you +rep them

I'm not an elder, but it sounds to me like your life is a result of the choices you've made. You remind me of my older brother in the aspect that you think all these things are just happening to you. I don't do drugs, and I lead a pretty happy life. I agree with TJ in the aspect that you are a smoker because you choose to be. Once my brother learned to take responsibility (somewhat) for his actions, and realized that his choices can affect others as well as himself, his life got better for him. He still makes some wrong choices, IMO, but he deals with them. Change your outlook and make some different choices.

My man, I've known a few people that needed re-hab to get on with their life. When your demons own you, it's time for re-hab.

If you know it is a problem, then it is time to do something about it besides contemplate it.

Slowly but surely, drugs will fry the brain,maybe thats it :hmmm:

Sounds like the first step is over, admitting you have a problem and looking for ways to solve it.

The guy doesn't want or need advice. Clearly he's intelligent enough to know that he should stop doing drugs, go back to school, graciously accept help from his grandparents, and make something of his life. This isn't brain surgery we're talking about here. It's simply having the self-discipline to do the most basic things in life.
Some people are just weak. This guy is one of them. We all have weaknesses. All the advice in the world won't overcome this weakness, though. It can only be overcome by looking at one's self in the mirror and being disgusted enough in what you see to make a change even though it will cause temporary discomfort.
You clearly have a problem with drugs. You abuse them. You are not the kind of person who can use them in moderation, so you shouldn't use at all. Clearly you have a problem with religion. Most people who have a problem with religion actually have a fear of rightness versus wrongness. Even if you don't believe in God and/or Jesus, you could do worse than living a gracious and moral life. Clearly you have a problem with your parents. I don't know what they've done, nor do I care. They aren't stopping you from making something of your life any more than they are stopping me from making something of mine.
You've got enough pride to defend yourself when someone calls you a loser. That's a good sign. Have enough pride to stop being a puss and go make something of your life.

Do some more drugs then things wont seem so bad because you wont care. No im kidding. You could work in the forces with computers and such. Once you have a foundation or something go look for a job, maybe by then you will have some connections.

quit smoking pot you f**king hippie!

lol

bp

I haven't read through any of these posts, and I know that you think I'm an asshole, and I have earned that label.

But I'm going to give you some advice.

Take it for what it's worth.

Grow the **** up.

I don't give a rat's ass how bad you think things are in your family.
I don't care that you have a low opinion of your mother, or your father.

I can gaurantee you, your childhood wasn't as bad as mine.

Hell, you were in college, your mother was paying for your car?

Compared to me and mine, your the ****in' Cleaver family.

I never used my traumatic childhood as a crutch, or an excuse to do drugs.

I took responsibility for my life.

Grow up and take some responsibility for yours.

Actually, I'm just being non-judgemental, because I know that all of the "you're a loser" stuff is going nowhere. I'm not afraid to admit that I don't have a problem with people smoking pot. I don't see it as a big deal. I used to do it. I know what it's about. I choose to operate differently because I felt it was interfering with some of my relationships. I'm no more a pot head than I am an alcoholic. Which is to say, I'll probably drink another beer in my life, and I'll probably smoke another bowl sometime too. I don't have a problem with either of them. They don't rule my life.

Which is a pretty good life, if I say so myself. Best of all, I don't have to clean up pig shit.

We must get Taco stoned.

Hahahaha! Fuq you Endelt!

Step 1 - Give any leftover drugs to me.

Step 2 - Leave me alone (with my bong and straw)

Step #1:

Lay of the drugs.

I got nothing against smoking a joint or tying one on, many can attest to that, but using them to escape your problems is a bad idea. Save the buzz for the good times, not the bad.

Hell, even I'd promise to be nice and not take pictures if Taco did a bong hit.

ENDelt, Mer looks pretty hot in your new avatar. Why blank out the face? Are you that ashamed?

heh. heh.

apparently, I'm not a nice girl.

Yes. It's really gross. Be glad it's the way it is. If you smoke enough pot it starts to sharpen and you can see my disfigurement.

I'll get right on that...

When I logged on about 3am New Years Day I thought I saw a lazy eyeball and a cleft lip.

If you are drinking alcohol you are drinking a drug. It is more of a "drug" (to me) than plants growing wild out in the forest. That's just my opinion BTW.

Anyway, to the young man looking for advice, just say to yourself:

"If it's to be, it's up to me".

Figure out what you want to do (what did you enjoy as a child?) and figure out the best way to get from here to there.

I agree I think alcohol is one of the worse drugs if your an alcoholic, but it doesn't hurt to have a couple beers with friends as long as you don't put anyone elses safety at risk.

I do see where your coming from and I pretty much agree.

Good advice. Follow this!

Well then you are in massive denial.

You're in college 5 years and you're going to quit now?

That spells loser.

You have no money, but you do manage to have money for drugs?

That spells loser.

You know you have a problem, but can "never" give up smoking weed?

That spells loser.

You want the easy way out with everything.

I'm not trying to rag on you, but these guys are right, everything is an excuse why you can't do something.

You have your grandparents, who are trying to help you get on your feet, offer to let you live there, but you just can't because of how miserable you would be.

That means that you'll likely be miserable because you couldn't be a junkie all the time.

I really think you love your life now. You just can't afford the druggie lifestyle.

Ha. That spells no priorities.

DOn't get me wrong.

A cold beer sounds pretty good.

I don't draw a big distinction between legal and illegal drugs. All of them are bad for ya, but I'm a pretty big believer in personal responsibility. Do whatever you want to your body, just be responsible for what you do.

I probably shouldn't even discuss this since I've never even tried any of that stuff except for a beer in the late 60's.

I just realized how boring I am.........

Good lord.

You have problems.

Eventually he'll find a reason to discount CP's help the way he bags on his parents, grandparents, religion, the military, etc. It's not his fault, though. Even blaming the drugs is BS. Drugs and alcohol don't get you high and drunk unless you choose to use them. All the cocaine in Colombia can't get you high if you stay the hell away from it.

BTW, what does "smoking a bowl" entail?

I always thought the only way to smoke weed was with a bong or a cigarette.

This post was supposed to go after my "worshipping God on drugs is the best" post.

dammit brian.

I've never smoked a day in my life, but I think it's the pipe thing that you stuff weed in and then smoke.

I could be way off though.

A bowl is a pipe bowl.

And not the type of pipe that Gramps smoked that smelled like Vanilla.

Pot pipes, bongs, steam-rollers, etc. have bowls. It's the hollowed out area that you put the pot in.

Speaking of losers...

That makes sense.

For some reason whenever anyone said that I always had this mental image:

http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/DGV/DGV050/1103002.jpg

I seem to remember a similar conversation when you chose to leave me at the door and not pay my cover.

Oh wait. You blamed pot then.

True. And it could be used to smoke pot. But it's typically a different type of pipe than that.

Just trying to give him the proper image.

funny how a thread that started as "I need help putting down the pipe" as evolved into a bunch of pot-head stories and theories (not to mention the knowledge our non-pot-head brothers have obtained)



sorry, I'm stoned and my mind is wandering a bit

heh...

The Afroman--Because I Got High

I was gonna clean my room until I got high
I gonna get up and find the broom but then I got high
my room is still messed up and I know why
- cause I got high [repeat 3X]

I was gonna go to class before I got high
I coulda cheated and I coulda passed but I got high
I am taking it next semester and I know why
- cause I got high [repeat 3X]

I was gonna go to work but then I got high
I just got a new promotion but I got high
now I'm selling dope and I know why
- cause I got high [repeat 3X]

I was gonna go to court before I got high
I was gonna pay my child support but then I got high
they took my whole paycheck and I know why
- cause I got high [repeat 3X]

I wasnt gonna run from the cops but I was high
I was gonna pull right over and stop but I was high
Now I am a paraplegic - because I got high [repeat 3X]

I was gonna pay my car note until I got high
I was gonna gamble on the boat but then I got high
now the tow truck is pulling away and I know why
- because I got high [repeat 3X]

I was gonna make love to you but then I got high
I was gonna eat yo pussy too but then I got high
now I'm jacking off and I know why
- cause I got high [repeat 3X]

I messed up my entire life because I got high
I lost my kids and wife because I got high
now I'm sleeping on the sidewalk and I know why
- cause I got high [repeat 3X]

I'm gonna stop singing this song because I'm high
I'm singing this whole thing wrong because I'm high
and if I dont sell one copy I know why
- cause I'm high [repeat 3X]

PotPlanet

YAY now it's a lyrics thread!

David Allen Coe Lyrics - The Devil Went To Jamaica Lyrics

The devil went to Jamaica
He was looking to sell some weed
He was doin' fine
They were standin' in line
It was excellent weed indeed
When he came across a young man
Who was likewise peddling pot
And the devil slid down the beach to the kid
And said boy let me tell you what
I guess you kind of figured
I'm a reefer head of course
And after all this time
I guess that I'm a conniseur of sorts
Now your stuff smells okay
But this could tranquilize a horse
I'll bet a million in cash against your stash
Cause I think mines better than yours
The boy said my names Johnny
And you ain't smoked nothing yet
One hit of this grass will kick your a@@
You got yourself a bet

Johnny roll a ball of hash
And make sure it's the bomb
Cause the devils got the kind of stuff they smoked in Vietnam
You'll get a million smack-a-roo's in cash if you can cope
But if you can't the devil gets your dope

The devil packed a bong
With a little Acapulco Gold
And resin flew from his finger tips
As he fired up his bowl
He filled that chamber all the way
And he took a mighty hit
And as they passed it back and forth
It gave them both a coughing fit
(coughing)
When the bowl was finished Johnny said
Hey man, that stuff was great
But fill your lungs with some of this
And prepare to vegetate

Cannibis Sativa, Sweet Maryjane
The devils in the backyard frying his brain
Zig-Zag filled with the diggity-dank
Hold on tight it will hit you like a tank

The devil nodded off
Because he knew that he was stoned
And he asked if he could by an ounce
Of the stuff that Johnny owned
Johnny said, Devil just come on back
If you ever wanna catch a buzz
I done told you once
You son of a bi$^h
Mine's the best there ever was

And they fired up doobies one by one
Ain't gonna stop until the bag is done
Green as a bullfrog
Sticky as glue
Granny do you get high, yes I do

I can certainly testify that quitting pot coincided with me getting my life turned around. I don't know that it was 100% responsible, but I know making that a major part of my lifestyle change was a key element.

Quit that shit solid for a year or two. Then you can make a decision if you want to still do it socially. You might realize that you don't miss it much.

I just get pregnant when I need a break.

ROFL

Joe played my first David Allen Coe song for me at the first 37Forever weekend I went to...."Cum Stains on my pillow." Coe is friggen genious.

I'm confused -- what does Michael Jordan have to do with any of this?

Good advice. I've done my share of the partying, but there's much more to life...like football, golf, chicks, etc.

cheetos and funyuns, dammit

I have pictures of a naked golf tournament that had lots of weed smoking going on.

We can multi task.

Trainwrecks from Amazons... Bandaids...

My really really short friend named Tony who has a coke can for a penis.

You might also find out it's the only thing you have in common with the losers you hang out with. And getting away from them might be as big a step as anything when it comes to cleaning up your life.

It's fun to smoke bowls out of!

:rolleyes:

Because everyone has done it, right?

I agree, if you can't handle it, you should quit. But don't group all pot-heads together. As ENDelt said, he leads a successful life despite what he consumes (pot, liquor, p*ssy)

maybe quitting was a part of turning your life around, but not the cause.

I tell the same to the "re-born" jerkoffs

"I turned my life around the day I started fucking sheep. It must be the key!"

Thats it if your a sheep fucker your not invited to alabama. :harumph:

All the "good men" are already hooked up with sheep.

Only when I'm drunk, or the sheep is really cute.


(...and a person excitied about getting gang-fucked by two strangers should not be talking :p )

yea they have barnyard orgies down here, or so I've heard.

you got me there, but like I said its been a while and my fantasies get real freaky, but, no animals are ever there in my fantasies. well maybe men who act like animals. :drool:

Damn it I am giving out way to much info here. :banghead:

it's okay.

no one here will ever meet you, and those in Alabama don't know how to use computers (or read)

your secrets are safe here.


so, about those fantasies...

well alrighty then!!!!

oh shut up, I don't give details, close your eyes when you read my posts.

I don't know but just keep your fingers moving when its my posts. :)

QickSsurfer, are you gay?

WTF did that come from?

Hey, hey....back off bud. You are encroaching into my territory there now, man. :harumph:

Did you intend that for Stumppy?

Mr. Kotter, are you gay?

No, but I use to be.

Now THAT explains everything.

Of course it does; but you knew that, lover. I just got tired of your headaches.