I doubt the quality of anything run by any govt.

First there is not a growing number of scientist that are disbelieving Global Warming. That is a bold face lie. It was true 10 years ago when Global Warming first was raised. I was on the sidelines at that point. But we have had 10 years of study and the average temperature of the entire world has been going up. The scientist who dispute the trends in temperature of air and water, of reduction in ice and such are dwindling at this point. You, as always are 10 years behind the debate.

That heat is used to melt ice where ice exists. One of those places is north North America. That location has been the source for the Alberta Clipper cold weather for the US for almost all of the 20th century. And still is where cold air collects before plummeting into the US. The difference now is that heat is melting ice further and further north. And in the summer that melting is more pronounced. That cools the air and that cooler air plummets south to moderate the temperatures especially in June and early July. August still is hot and dry, as well as September and October. And the extra heat shortens the winter season.

Where in the world are ice glaciers growing? Where in the world are ice packs expanding. If I am wrong where are the trends in the world measured that otherwise. And all this at a time when the largest amount of COtwo ever, 150 times more than produced by volcanoes, billions vs millions of tons and you want to say it can't make any difference.

This is a HUGE outlier for what has been convervatively done up until the later half of the 20th century. IT IS RADICALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAD BEFORE THE 20TH CENTURY.

I have little problem with Nuclear Plants. But new technologies can be inplimented. Dual grid systems one lower voltage for lighting say. Houses have been built very tightly that can be heated by just the water heater. But the cost can't be brought down and the energy production reduced unless there is a concerted effort. You want to discount the needed change instead of looking for solutions. You are still grounded in Adam Smith mentality in an information age economy. (Not that scarcity doesn't play a part but that we generate novel solutions with our scientific understandings).

This in face of the reality of the effects of greenhouse gases. There have been plenty of times that resilency and been exceeded and the result is dire.

Four inches of snow this morning.

C'mon global warming, get it together. :mad:

1. And you, like the rest of the "OMG CRISIS X IS GOING TO KILL US ALL!!!", are overreacting to a minimal amount of data.

2. The Earth underwent drastic climate changes long before humans. See "ice ages" and "topical ages". You idiots are basing your findings on about 50 years of solid meteorlogical data which doesn't show up as a speck in a gnat turd on the geological timescale.

3. This might strike home:

Yes it is true the earth underwent drastic climate changes long before humans. We are in an ice age chap. In the Interglacial period within an ice age. That is why people in the 1970's were thinking we would be heading back to glacial building period of this ice age. So that is when they started looking at the data. Yep since the time of Christ the temperatures have been coming down expcept they started going back up in the second half of the 20th century.

It is against this expectation of a ice age regime that we find escalating temperatures. I have said in the past that some Global Warming is better than another ice age period. So I am not looking to stop all COtwo production. But we are escalating the process. We have produced more COtwo in the last 30 years than all the rest of mankinds existence. 150 times the amount produced by volcanoes EACH YEAR. That is exponential growth. We are being radical in our actions by assuming we can dump the garbage into the atmosphere and it will just drift away.

You want to be a conservative but you are willing to ignore the gross manner in which we have decided to support the oil dominated energy paradigm. I am not a luddite and want to live off just berries. But that is what I see we are heading for (along with a lot of killing for the few berries) if we IGNORE the determinations. Moderation not expansion is what I am talking about.

You wave around facts of prehistoric time as if they are more sound then the fact that last year was the hottest temperature average EVER. And this trend has been repeated over the last 10 years. Glaciers have been melting. Nowhere in the world are they building. NOWHERE. Where is the evidence to the contrary that temperatures are lowering.

You live in the middle ages. You think your words are more important in influencing the weather than the rise in temperature. And you dismiss science that the relationship of greenhouse gases and rise in temperatures are fact. If this is wrong come forward with the process that allows for increase of greenhouse gases and lower temperatures. Give me the evidence that temperatures are falling.

Energy drives the weather system. More energy drives more weather. And that means more severe weather events. Longer dry spells, when it rains it rains heavier, more or stronger weather patterns and melting of existing ice.

I am seeking moderation of the gluttony that we have practiced these last 40 years. Not complete shutdown.

Me too.

thanks, bill nye.

I want 70 degrees in winter, fuck my great-grandkids

Hey, it snowed for like an hour here today, maybe longer and rained also. Its 30 degrees right now too.

The weather's gone to hell up here. Rain has turned to a freezing rain/snow mix, sticking to the streets big time. I'm glad I'm in for the night. The Mustang does NOT do well in this shit.

Eat your heart out Overhead.

you're just mean! :(

Weather here has been great! Sunny Southern Cal’s got nothing on us; except for maybe the beaches and palm trees.

Heck, I had a pineapple tree sprout in my back yard.

Of course, I am pretty close to Raytown. You know, on the south side of town.

Oddly enough, it's been the worst winter since I moved here four years ago. It doesn't snow (as i'm near the coast) but its' been raining basically non-stop for 2 months now.

That's a normal winter on the coast. The last few years were abnormally dry.

I'll take this weather as long as it can hold up. Why would Kansans want snow? so they have to bundle up, scrape off their cars, turn on the heat which will increase your utility bills.....no thanks. It's not like we can go skiing or something fun like that

I want as far away from Mexico as I can get. It looks like Korea. I might get the epizudic.

It's officially cancelled, due to lack of interest.

For those of you who thought we weren't having a winter this year, WRONG!.

It has been so cold and wet out here in Cal, that the yuppies have run out of wood pellets for their stoves.

Yet another Arctic/pacific storm is pounding California as I type.

Well now that it is officially spring old man winter wants to hang around a little while longer.

Kinda like you...









:p

Why yes; that is the case. :p

Tis a rather dandy day here on "Fraggle Rock".

A gentle wind is wafting in from the North East at 100mph, there’s a slight nip to the breeze with the balmy -8 weather we’ve been blessed with.

And to add true romance to this picturesque scene is pea soup fog which has me needing night vision goggles to see the end of my drive way.

**YES FOLKS fog AND high wind.....Only on the rock :thumb:

BUT FEAR NOT!!Another 10cm’s of snow has been forecast for us today.

It is is it?
You'd have a mighty hard time conviencing me it's spring right about now. :shake:

He didn't hang around long at my place. Just dropped a dusting of snow and then he split.

3 inches of wet snow overnite.

18 inches of wet snow on top of freezing rain yesterday.

Why yes; yes it, and it comes as no surprise that you are not convinced. :p :D

We didn't even get that here, although there's supposed to be a light (20%) chance of snow tonight.