So does prison time.

Society demands higher standards for our children.If you choose to live below those standards that is your choice but we will prosecute those who do so in order to protect our own.

So this isn't about him getting blown by a 15 year old, it's about him being a "cocky star athlete".

What makes it even a bigger crock of shit, is that some 19 year old kid out of school can come in and get blown by a 17 year old junior, and be about his merry way. Bottom line, Georgia needs to update their laws and let this kid give up his seat to a real criminal.

We need cliff notes, where is Simplex3?

Society demands laws that are not completely and utterly reeruned. There are armed robbers, violent rapists and pedophiles probably getting less than 10 years for crimes that are 1,000 times worse. It just doesn't add up. Sure, the kid did something very stupid, but nowhere near 10 years of hard time stupid.

So does a lot of things... not really sure where you're going with that.

Protect your own from . . . consenting sexual behavior? Is that REALLY what you're suggesting?

Perhaps the practices of two married people should be regulated, you know, to protect your own.

Your a tool. If you think this kid deserves even one damn day of jail time then you better open up about 100 more prisons cause I guarantee this crap happens every day.

Yeah, I agree completely. You may have missed my point, sorry I wasn't more clear.

the girl went to his school and was only 2 years younger than him.

he was a senior ... she was a sophomore


How in the hell does that deserve a "sex offense" label?




dam ... juniors and seniors at my high school used to hit on sophomores all the time. :(

If a 14 year old girl consents to have sex with an 18 year old man that is socially unacceptable and yes I absolutely am suggesting it continue to be regulated.
Are you suggesting differently?

It already is regulated, and yes, I find that acceptable, however, it's not exactly within the scope of the discussion, which was a consenting 17 and consenting 15 year old.

Age of consent has been around forever. Based on age and maturity, children lack the ability to knowingly consent to many things. For example, contracts aren't legally enforceable if signed by a minor. Why? Under the law, they lack the ability to truly understand the nature of their actions and the obligations that follow. Age of consent laws dealing with sex do the same thing. Save kids from themselves that don't know better. So, the whole "she initiated it/volunteered it" line doesn't work. Where would you then draw the next line. If not at 15 or 16 then what. How old should children be before they can legally consent to sex? You have to draw the line somewhere, and it seems to be reasonable where they drew the line.

Also, look at the facts of the case. Weed, booze, orgy, camera 15 y/o. Clearly guilty under the law. Offfered a plea after conviction. Would already be out now.

Yes, his punishment is onerous and excessive, but he is not the victim he is portrayed as. He is an individual that made poor choices in the first place and continues to do so.

They're both minors. You must not have gotten any action in high school, because every single minute of every single day, some high school kids, somewhere, are ****ing each other. It's naive to think that passing laws is going to regulate it among minors.

So an 8 and 10 year old can vidotape themselves engaging in sex acts? If they do it voluntarily, they might as well sell it too and make some money. Just because both are minors and consent does not make it right or legal. Under your logic child porn could easily be legalized too.

Dont be another reerun. You have to display some common sense. A 15 yr old has the common sense to know if they want to get layed or not. Why not put the girl in jail too. He is in prison for screwing a girl under age. Isnt he under age too? Why isnt she in jail? She initiated it.

Btw no where in the article it states the boys supplied the booze and drugs. It actually says some girls came over and bourbon and marijuana were consumed.

That's not at all what I'm advocating, and you know it.

We're talking about high schoolers here. No, they're not adults, and sometimes, they don't think things through, but they're not naive like 8-10 year olds are. There isn't something magical about turning 18 that automatically makes you self-aware and more responsible. Just because high schoolers don't care about the consequences of their actions doesn't mean they aren't fully aware of them. They choose to ignore them.

It's one thing to blindly follow the letter of the law, but like you said... it doesn't make it right, or realistic. Millions of high schoolers blow each other every day and they still grow up to be well-adjusted adults. Placing some arbitrary age value upon when someone "knows" what consent is doesn't make any sense at all. If this were a case of an 8 and 10 year old, you'd be right, because biologically, they just aren't capable of understanding or really consenting. But we're talking about 15 and 17 year olds. Not at ALL the same thing.

if sexual contact between 17 and 15 year old teens is against the law then they need to separate their schooling.


imo a kid shouldn't be expected to ask for ID from the person sitting next to them in class before they makeout.

No kidding. Our school district is talking about going to a 9-12 high school. I really, really hope we don't, because 14 year old girls do not need to be hanging around with 17-18 year old guys on a daily basis, imo.

I just realized something, according to our last president, these two didn't even have sex. How can he be a sexual predator when he only got a hummer which, per the top man in the country at the time, is not sex! :)

Untill the last few years we never knew "middle school"...thats a new age education deal...all we had was 1-6...grade school, 7-8 Jr High and 9-12 High school.

Things go to shit when education PhD's start to think.

Humbly submitted.

Out legal system has been getting more out of control by the year. Here is a great one.

16 year old to receive 90 years for looking at child porn?

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/LegalCenter/story?id=2785054

That's where the story got real crazy for me. If he had actually screwed her, he wouldn't be in jail because that's considered just a misdemeanor. However, since it was oral sex, it's considered a felony in Georgia. The prosecutor should be thrown in prison for enforcing that reeruned law to the letter and not exercising one iota of common sense.

I believe we have a law, or at least used to, here in Illinois that stated oral sex was illegal, even among consenting adults. But it's never become an issue because people realize the law is too stupid to be enforced, so it's just a silly trivia question, not a means to lock up somebody for 10 years.

LOL

That statement struck me as funny, because I went to a school around here that was K-12, and some of the seniors were definitely nailing the freshmen girls.

When he was a senior in high school, he received oral sex from a 10th grader. He was 17. She was 15. "Everyone, including the girl and the prosecution, agreed she initiated the act. But because of an archaic Georgia law, it was a misdemeanor for teenagers less than three years apart to have sexual intercourse, but a felony for the same kids to have oral sex."

Huh? Am I reading this right?

Thats discriminating towards males.

My graduating class at Blue Springs was the last class to go to the school 4 straight years. After our freshman year they built a freshman center because our school was too crowded, which is totally understandable but to simply split it up because of gender and being afraid that little miss panty dropper cant keep her pants on is reeruned. Educate your kids about sex, nuff said.

Shit like this makes other countries think that America is the debbil.

Shit when I was a senior... 17, I banged 2 freshmen, 1 sophomore, and 2 juniors. Small town girls love to give up the pussy. It's a fact of life.

I guess I should have been locked up for 50 years.

you are a sexual predator

That was pretty much the norm in the small town I grew up in - ~3,500 people. The popular freshmen girls would be deflowered by the 2nd quarter and the senior girls hated them for taking all the senior guys. Now that I have a daughter though, this scares me. I already have my shotgun.

"That's what I like about these high school girls: I keep getting older; they stay the same age".

-Wooderson

Yeah.

About as predatory as a goldfish... ROFL

Take 2: Does that make him Ped-atory?...

there were so many whores at my HS

anyone like to bend girls over and tap it?

Absolutely agree,I've got a relative who's boyfriend(30 at the time)got hit on at a party and went for it.Turns out the girl is 16 looking and acting 25 and he gets 3 years in the can plus is now tagged with sex offender label.

As for the girl,nothing,nada,I think at least she if not her parents should've been held accountable to some extent.

I hope Eddie Barker gets run over by a bus tomorrow. What an arrogant, self-righteous, downright anti-American prick.

:)

I screwed the Police Chief's daughter of my hometown when she was 17, and I was 20. Lock me up bitches, it was worth it. She was the hottest chick I've ever railed too, good stuff.

Yeah, same thing happened to my buddy except he didn't go to prison. It was actually my fault too. My buddy worked at Applebee's at a server so we went and got hammered in his section, started talkin to these chicks. They told us they were college freshman, then we started tellin' them how we played football with our friend who was the waiter and how big his wang was, tryin to get them to talk to him you know. Well, turns out, she left her # for my friend. He called, they went out a few times, he comes over to her house watches a movie, SHE EVEN SAID SHE WAS 18 to him. Even told him, he didn't think anything of it at all. So they did it. Later I find out through friends the girl was 15 and my friend was 22. What is a guy to do, chicks have huge knockers at 14 and 15. Remember in 8th grade when you were short and little and all the chicks had big tits and were taller than you already? Girls mature at a earlier age than guys, and it's really hard to guess their age when they are 15-25. What is a guy supposed to do?

A travesty...someone has got to help this kid...WTF is the guvnah

"They talk last-ditch plans, including a constitutional amendment returning pardon power to the governor. When they're done, Balser walks Bernstein to the elevator."

Guess Barker has never heard of the concept of prosecutorial discretion either.

I hate when rednecks go on about how their proud to be an American...this is just another example of why I am ashamed to be an American......

Besides being in Georgia, the girl was white. That has a lot to do with it also and I don't care of anyone wants to admit it or not. This is bullshit but who was the dumb ass who filmed it?

Quote:Originally Posted by BWillie007
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/etic...ory?page=wilson
But because of an archaic Georgia law, it was a misdemeanor for teenagers less than three years apart to have sexual intercourse, but a felony for the same kids to have oral sex.

Less than three years apart equals 4 years apart?

Edit: Plus, it's not really legal, either. It's a different level of crime (misdemeanor vs felony), but still a crime.

I agree with this........even though I read the Bible and go to church. ;)

Sadly, there probably wouldn't be a case if the girl were black.
:shake:

I still would like to know more about the rape charge. Did it get dropped completely? Why? Was it an obviously bogus claim? They didn't really say much about it.

I know teens that are going to do that. I don't have a problem if they're 2-3 years apart. My niece was 16 and had a boyfriend that was 23. I told my sister she should have him prosecuted. Why? There is absolutely no reason for a 23 year old to be with a 16 year old. That, IMO, is child molestation. Of course, my sister didn't do anything. Now that idiot is in prison for some other crap he did. :shake: A real winner, I tell ya.

You're assuming that the ones being videotaped didn't want to be be taped. It is entirely possible (and probable, IMO) that he wanted to be taped. You know, to recapture the moment later on. ;)

Then why not just charge him for giving alcohol and weed to minors, possession of those, etc? The punishment does not fit the crime.

She admitted it was consensual.

Shit, a 17 year old ****ing a 15 year old is absolutely normal. 10 years for a blowjob? That's completely absurd and LITERALLY insane.

Then move to another country, dumbass.

Or learn the difference between "their" and "they're" and "there" before you talk shit for ****s sake.

Ah, ok. I figured it must have been something like that.

like a lot things in this country, it's been taken too far.

statutory rape is a great law ... adults have sex with kids is a bad thing. They should be locked up and beaten with a bamboo stick.

BUT..........


teens having sex with teens is a completely different situation. And it needs to be handled completely different.

The kids should be Grounded ......... not arrested.

Grounded? Shit, he nailed a 15 year old and got her to videotape it. He should be given a medal.

People like you are a great example of why rednecks like them should be able to tie you to the rear bumper of their pickup truck then feed you to their pigs.

LMAO

I want to audition for the part of the kid. (provided the 15 year old is portrayed by an 18 year old, we don't want another dakota fanning thread)

The crime will be if he has to serve 10 years behind bars. This story makes you feel down for the young fella.

Drugs Booze and a 15 yr old....and he rented a hotel....

He is a dreg, was gonna be a dreg, and now hes in jail.

Maybe when he gets out he wont be a dreg.

Interesting...in one response you call someone a "tool"....in another post you call someone a "reerun". You seem to have problems having debates and discussions without being inflammatory.

mmaddog
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Sorry if I don't feel "bad" for the young fella.....while I agree the punishment doesn't fit the crime, there are way too many responses acting like his behavior is acceptable and just a by-product of juvenile delinquency.

mmaddog
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I liked your other avatar better.

I hope this is just a sarcastic off-the-cuff response and not one you truly believe....

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I'm actually going to bring it back...just felt like a change for a couple of weeks.

Besides, I don't want 4th and Long to think I don't appreciate his work.

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Nothing! If she is gonna give it up then so be it. I would be shocked and mad as hell if it were one of my girls but its country hick ass backward to throw a young boy in jail for having sex with a girl that is two years younger than him. If youre young sweet lil daddy's girl is a slut just deal with it. Most girls are and always have been. Obviously she learned it from somewhere and when they are that young the learning starts in the home.

the punishment doesn't fit the crime????

the CRIME????

I think we have a different definition of this.

I would say slightly sarcstic, but only because the story is so overboard in lunacy.

So a girl unzips your pants... and starts sucking your dick. You gonna tell her to stop?

I mean shit. This girl should have gone to jail for being such a slutty whore. I mean, I love her and all, but come on.

Plus, he was around all his friends, he would look like a pussy if he didnt let that chick suck him, when he initiated it.

Im no angel..but it's post like these that make me wish Lamar's name wasn't the name of the forum.

"Punishment fit the crime" was just a saying....you can have your own opinion of whether a crime was committed or not.

BTW, there was a crime committed there.....I'll let you figure out what it was. (Hint:It isn't that this kid is in prison)

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Nowhere in the article does it say he was the one who got the drugs and alcohol. If you're referring to the consumption of those things, if every highschooler who had ever smoked weed or drank alchol was sent to prison, half the teenagers in this country would be rotting away in jails. I can't believe people are actually accepting this insanity. It boggles my mind.

of cousre it does, you're only five years older than the guy in jail...

hey, when you expose kids to adult issues and activties, and they engage in said activities like adults..don't be shocked when they are treated like adults.

If everyone who goes over the speed limit is given a ticket then every city/county/state would be operating in the black....yada, yada, yada...

Sorry, but your response is nothing but an attempt to justify something that is illegal. And it doesn't matter whether you think it's foolish or not, it's still against the law.....you act like he should be patted on the back and given a statue.

mmaddog
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Wow, me and all my friends should be in jail.

Yeah, its posts like that, that make baby Tom Cruise cry.

:rolleyes:

don't take it personal.. it's not meant that way.

you friggin crybaby...;)