ah...check

What a dream job for some LUCK BASTARD coach that gets to take over a 14-2 Team

That doesn't happen everyday in the NFL.

Who has any opinions on who they hire to replace him?

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Bill Cowher the next coach in SD?? :hmmm:

Shit. He was the only thing keeping the Chargers from winning the Super Bowl.

:cuss:

Norv Turner anyone?

Cowher wants to take some time off. That's why he left Pittsburgh in the first place.

I would have loved, loved to have been a fly on the wall to see the fight that led to this firing. No other explanation for it.

IMO even though a lot of us don't like Martyball, how in the hell can you fire someone that won 14 games.
This team has a hard enough time filling seats(they made a special rule in the playoffs not selling tickets outside of the county) as it is and then you fire someone that won 14 games.
Yeah the TEAM didn't win in the playoffs, but what's to say they won't win next year.

God forbid they get Bill Parcells,I don't think he was really ready to leave just tired of the 3 ring circus they call TO

I bet Cameron is pissed...he could have been the coach with a little patience...

Same here. It must have been the Operation Rolling Thunder of F-bombs.

I know but stranger things have happened. Who else would you fired a coach for after 14 wins? Money talks...

I could see Parcells coming back to an ideal situation such as that. If he does, just hand them the Lombardi. Not even Bellicheck could stop them.

True, Mr. Rooster. Plus, this is one heck of a job for someone. Young, talented team. Relatively easy division, plenty of money to spend on players. Great city.

This is the vacancy of all vacancies.

FAX

Yes. I'm thinking something along the lines of Chevy Chase's tirade in Christmas Vacation, but with much more proficient use of the F-Bomb.

My guess: Marty got tired of the bullsh*t, went nuts, knowing full well the ramifications of his actions. Technically a firing, but essentially a resignation.

Cowher isn't the kind of guy that's motivated by money. He's got more than enough for the rest of his life. Ego, challenge, and prestige are what drives him. When he misses that enough, he'll be back to coach, maybe in a year or few. Right now he just wants to recharge his batteries and spend some time with his family.

Cowher's got plenty of money and besides that, his youngest daughter is in high school in N.C. and his other daughters are in college. He wants to spend some quality time with them, so Cowher to S.D. doesn't make much sense.

The Spanos family has been notoriously cheap, so I don't think they'd spend the necessary to even lure Pete Carroll.

I don't know about that.

Parcells hasn't won anything without Bellichick, and his teams without Bellichick have been fairly mediocre.

Al Saunders

Heir Coryell!

I dont see how this is good for the Chargers, regardless of his lack of post season success, he built that damn team. He may be a choker in the play offs, but he knows how to build teams. I bet they are worse next year.

There's a thought.

FAX

Do you really think they'd re-hire Saunders?

He knows how to build a defense, but he's never shown an ability to build the kind of offense the Chargers have.

That team was built by John Butler and AJ Smith.

Marty just managed the product.

Can Tomlinson throw the ball?

That's an understatement...even with Marty, it would be tough to even come close to matching 14 wins...back to my original post, how can you fire someone with 14 wins?? If Herm on 14 games, everyone on here would be all over him, even if he lost in the playoffs.

I don't know this is so friggin huge... Hell, with that team I could go 9-7. I'm just so confused as to if the plan was to fire Marty why not do it sooner and keep Cam.

Someone is out there lurking we aren't thinking of.

Getting fired after basically going 14-2 with a rookie QB is pretty tough. Part of it is his fault, but I truly think that he is just jinxed.

You make great points. I know he is a family guy who loves his girls very much. I just can't imagine firing a guy who won 14 games. Very strange situation.

This from a dude too stupid to spell choke. Well, he can't spell rerun either so what could we expect?

I don't think there was a plan. I'd bet on the speculation that Marty and Smith couldn't agree on the coordinators who would replace Wade and Cam. If those guys are still there, Marty survives. But Marty went to Smith and said he wanted his brother and his son and Jimmy Raye and Paul Hackett and God knows who else on his staff, and Smith said "**** this shit."

Heh, without him, maybe their regular season record won't be good enough.



I wonder if Jerry Jones will fire Phillips now to go after Marty?

They never planned to fire Marty.

He and AJ Smith have never gotten along, and it probably came to a head when Marty was trying to replace his coordinators, and the Spanos' finally had to can him.

You might be right. As Chiefs fans we should all say a prayer tonight for Dennis Green. :)

Too bad Dick Vermeil didn't stay one more year. I'd have liked for Marty to come back here and rekindle some of our past success. I think Marty has gotten to be a much better coach since his experience with San Diego. He's not quite as conservative, and he relegates authority to his coordinators better. Something that Vermeil was also very good about.

:shake:

wow SD is imploding, pretty stupid after losing all their coordinators, jeez!

The players have to be looking at this and wondering what the hells going on. Unless Marty was dating Lorenzo Neal's wife.

Dallas?

ESPN.

i heard they fired him because he wanted to hire Jimmy Rae and Paul Hackett

As much as I would like to see Marty torture Dallas fans, it would never happen. He would never coach for a jackass owner like Jerry Jones, nor would he put up with TO.

Scheffler just reported on NFL Network that Marty wanted to bring in his brother Kurt.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


At least Spanos had the balls to say **** that!

Hmm he did work for Snyder in Washington and some of the turds he signed for us plus with Merriman, he has worked with head cases before.

Dick Vermeil to the Bolts?????? Id bet he would win it all if he went there...

That is exactly my guess, too. If so, what in the hell is wrong with Marty? Why would he want to change ANYTHING on offense or defense. Indicates that perhaps Marty has learned nothing.

Marty with those two coordinators was a heck of a combination. He was the motivator and they were the brains.

Surprise of the off season, after their coaches left.

I see this as they did not want Marty this year but with 14-2 record had to keep him. They wanted the assistants and Marty was the best way to keep them there, they thought.

Wow.

PS. I think Marty ball was over last year or even before that.

Not with our luck, I would be so pissed but they have the players and cap room to make someone double think their decisions, even Cowher.

Sounds like the canned him to get a fresh start, rather than remodel the coaching staff.

I wonder if they want to get rid of their Left Tackle as well. It would not hurt to ask.......

Maybe they will just cut him?

SO wherever Marty goes he just gets lucky on teams that are built when he's around? I cannot believe that for 1 minute. I know most people on here hate him. I don't really hate him, he did nothing for me to hate him.

I didn't say that.

I give Marty credit for building the Chiefs D when he was in KC.
Carl gives his coach a lot of voice in the draft.


But that team in SD was assembled by bold moves by both Butler and Smith.

HOLY CRAP!!!

That just took the steam out of a perfectly enjoyable thread, God forbid indeed.

I heard the term "disfunctional" used in some espn reporting of the situation.

I may be some sort of regional expert on disfunction, and let me tell ya, Marty coulda won the whole shebang and still got canned.

Disfunction makes every thing else a lesser evil.

That is what you get when you try to bring in family.

And winning makes guys like TO, Moss, and Irvin team players.

Losing changes your zip code...

Somebody go check on Proctor.

Im ashamed..I prayed Marty and Herm would get the axe..well, half of it happened...

Maybe he'll trade us their first pick for Trent. :hmmm:

Wait a sec.....Didn't half of the planet say Marty was a good coach during the year. Me and a couple of other posters were lynched for saying Marty stunk. Fast forward to the present and now the whole planet says Marty stinks......




OH THE PLANET YOU GOTTA LOVE THIS SPIN! :rolleyes:

Who are you?

IM BATMAN ROFL

Hard to believe. You're not Batman.

Prove it. What's in your utility belt?

FAX

That was actually the "official " press release from SD.

The first step is admitting it.
ROFL

I bet they are too...And regardless of what ppl here say. I wouldn't mind him coaching this team again :) Of course without Peterhead ruining err running the show... but hey, 37 years of futility makes me a glutton for punishment...:)

I wonder if LT can coach?

FAX

LT is god, he can do anything.




BTW Mr. Fax, If you are going to be up this late. I would respectfully ask you to please only post in the 12:30 thread. It's not my cup of tea, but forum ettiquite and all.

Hmm...

Would you have considered Dean Smith a fraud prior to 1982? It took him 29yrs before he won a championship.

His teams almost always went deep in the tourney though. I don't think that classifies as the same thing as Marty's one and done.

That's not the point. The point is about championships, or atleast getting there. Using the logic that most people seem to have, Barry Switzer is a better coach than Marty since Barry has been to and won a SB. Let's use another sport, how about NASCAR. Mark Martin is considered one of the greatest drivers to ever get behind the wheel of a stock car, yet he hasn't and will never win a championship. Does that make him a fraud? No it doesn't. It makes him unlucky.

In sports, any sport, it's better to be lucky than good.

I think I'll be okay.

Thats what they said on the SD board, it will not affect the team because SD fans do not following football until the season is 10 weeks over.... ROFL

Nascar isn't a popular sport here.

Really? WOW!...

I just dont get why we offered him a 3 year contract extension at the after the Patriots loss, only to fire him 3 weeks later.

From what I understand, Marty turned down the three year extension, making him a lame duck. Since then, they lost both coordinators and here we are.

It was a one year deal. IIRC

If he was smart, he would have took the extra million.

SAN DIEGO -- Marty Schottenheimer will return as coach of the San Diego Chargers next season, but turned down the team's offer to exercise a one-year club option for 2008 worth $4.5 million.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2734129

And I hate SD, now i understand your actions before about Merriam.

Its your team and still do not know?

Its a shame he hasnt won the big one...look at this (sorry if the format is all messed up)

COACH (TEAMS) W L T PCT.
Don Shula (Baltimore, Miami) 347 173 6 .665
George Halas (Chicago) 324 151 31 .671
Tom Landry (Dallas) 270 178 6 .601
Curly Lambeau (Green Bay, Washington, Chicago) 229 134 22 .623
Chuck Noll (Pittsburgh) 209 156 1 .572
Marty Schottenheimer (Cleveland, K.C., Wash., San Diego) 205 139 1 .596
Dan Reeves (Denver, N.Y. Giants, Atlanta) 201 174 2 .536
Chuck Knox (L.A. Rams, Buffalo, Seattle) 193 158 1 .550
Bill Parcells (N.Y. Giants, New England, N.Y. Jets, Dallas) 183 137 1 .572

It would be a shame, if we didn't warn you about Marty.


But we did, so eh.