Replace Hall with Webb

Trade Hall and Samie for a draft pick

Put Hannon in Samie's position

jeez, what crawled up your ass?










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I call BS. :D

Boomer is the kind of player you want on a team. Adaptable, hard working. Not cry baby whiner.

Yeah but you never know?

It's always worth it, to at least give them an opportunity since we are incredibly thin at WR.

Did you know at one time Rod Smith was a practice squad player?

I could give a sh*t less about 40 times... seriously, people--jerry fucking rice never ran a sub 4.6 40... neither did steve largent

if he has good 'football' speed, he could run a 4.9 40 for all I care

This idea of republishing magazine articles on the free on the web was simply brilliant. Worth at least $500.

Wow, a late-round pick and an undrafted guy didn't break the starting lineup as rookies? They must suck. No chance they'll ever be good.

Not everybody hits the ground running, and receiver in particular is a position that takes time to learn. Most first day picks take 2 or 3 years to come into their own. Joe Horn was a 5th round pick here, didn't catch 1000 yards worth of passes in 4 years with us, then went on to catch more than 7500 yards worth with New Orleans in 7 years. Jimmy Smith, a 2nd round pick, toiled in obscurity on the Cowboys practice squad for 3 years before Jacksonville signed him. He only caught 22 passes his first year with the Jaguars. And then he caught 12K yards worth in a decade.

Is either Hannon or Webb going to be Jimmy Smith or Joe Horn?

Hell if I know. What I do know is that they'll never be anything if you don't give them a chance.

Why thankyou. It was my idea.

I don't care as much as you think but I pushed that idea in Aug of 05 - before either of us were on staff.

These guys are going to be good. They are Herms kind of WR's. He is done with the small receivers aka Dante Hall. They can let Hall go and let Webb take over his duties as PR/KR. He has not panned out as a catching WR. All he has to do is do kickoffs and in my opinion he has went down hill. Make these two your two and three receivers with old man Kennison as your number one and get one the stud WR in the draft. That way you are building for the future and hopefully one of these guys can make a contribution this year.

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Gochiefs vs Phobia



Just a reminder...Gochiefs has copy/pasted link/bullshit from WPI far more times than crazycoffey has posted comments and twice as many times as hooties threads about threesomes with Damon and Trent

I fired your ass in a brilliant coup so I could take credit for the idea. Mwa hahahaha!

"young guns" what does that mean? With Huard throwing I hope they're duck hunters

Who cares? It's Chiefs related. I don't think links to premium crap should be posted because that's pretty blatant spam but anything else is fair game.

It's a great idea regardless. I can't believe we had to fight for it - and fight for them to be free. For what it's worth, sometimes people will praise your ideas to encourage you, which is what I did with you. It's a management style. When a team member comes up with an idea that has already been discussed, it does little good to say "oh, we've already discussed that idea". Might as well make people feel good about themselves instead. Plus, it was an opportunity to add support to the concept.

new offense.

Chris Hannon strikes me as the type of guy that can make a career out of being a great special teams guy but doesn't play much WR an Alex Bannister type.

Thank you for being a realistic fan ... kinda balances out the homers.

Reality ... Warpaint Illustrated is hyping stuff to sell subscriptions. Used to be journalism meant reporters giving facts. Now there is too much wishful think in the reporting.

You couldn't be more wrong. We're just trying to cover the little guys.

Tory Holt starts off in StL as a rookie and hits the ground running becasue he's a hell of a talented receiver that also happens to be that quick twitch receiver that Dick and Al look for.

Hannon and Webb aren't in Tory Holt's class.

Best post of the thread.....


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And how many times have we heard the same regurgitated bullshit?? SSDP year after year with "unheralded" players going to have a break-out year.

Obviously not. Holt was what, the Sixth overall pick?

Just stating I like the trimmed down playbook. Give's guys like Hannon and Webb plus any rookie WR or FA's to come in and compete and not have to learn both wideout spots and the slot position in Al saunders 1352 pg playbook.

Not disagreeing with you. That's why people thought we reached on Tamba last year. Herm agrees, the proof is on the game tape, not the workout numbers.

Just wanted to verify where WPI got that Hannon was the fastest guy on the team.

Parker>Hannon. This guy was a nobody in college, and he's going to be a nobody now. What makes people think he's going to be good? Cuz he's fast? Big deal. He's never shown reason that he is going to be a good receiver. Sure he'll contribue special teams, but no way he's ever going to be our #2 guy. Write that down

Well atleast he's not a midget too like Parker is.

The offense was the culprit according to the coach.

Hannon is 6'3" and Webb is 6'2".

The era of midget WR's is over. Hopefully these guys get a legit chance to fight in TC and preseason to prove their worth...

We know what we've got with Parker which is a speedy short guy who drops passes and fumbles a lot. He's worthless.

Hannon is next in line and oodles cheaper.

What the Chiefs have been HORRIBLE at is taking low round talent and maximizing it. The best we've done late in the last 7 years is J. Allen.

And wasn't Herm a scout when Joe Horn was drafted?...

santana moss steve smith

We won't need Hannon or Parker once we draft the real deal Steve Smith from USC. Hell cut them all, leave Hall and Webb. I'm not so sure Parker is really much better than Hall, we just throw to him more. Plus, Parker is a huge DBAG. How bad can Gardner be? Are we even retaining the guy? I mean he has to be better than Hannon, he was a 1st round draft pick and had over 1000 yards one season.

I don't know how any good these guys are going to be. I am in wait in see mode. Something tells me if hannon didn't even play much at UT and webb played for san arizona jose new mexico state he couldn't be that good. Stranger things have happened though.

like jerry rice

Rice came out of Mississippi State, and smashed NCAA records. He was also the 16th overall selection in the '84 draft

ahem mississippi VALLEY State I-AA

You didn't see the drafted at 16 overall in the 1st round part?

And that has what to do with the error in your post?

You call it "regurgitated bullshit", the rest of the world calls it "fact".

And I haven't said a word about anybody "breaking out". I'm just smart enough not to write a player off after a single year in the league. Most pros take 3-4 years to develop. That's reality, like it or not. That's not any kind of guarantee that either Hannon or Webb will be anything, but we seem to like them both enough to give it a shot.

Or we could do it your way, draft new receivers in April, release them the following March after they don't turn into all pros, and then wonder why we never develop anybody.

Back in the 80's

Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1980 kan | 16 | 2 41 20.5 0 | 5 68 13.6 0 |
| 1981 kan | 5 | 1 -1 -1.0 0 | 7 179 25.6 1 |
| 1982 kan | 9 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 27 494 18.3 2 |
| 1983 kan | 16 | 2 20 10.0 0 | 80 1351 16.9 7 |
| 1984 kan | 16 | 1 -8 -8.0 0 | 57 1078 18.9 4 |
| 1985 kan | 15 | 3 25 8.3 0 | 47 843 17.9 4 |
| 1986 kan | 10 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 21 497 23.7 4 |
| 1987 kan | 12 | 1 -7 -7.0 0 | 55 1044 19.0 7 |
| 1988 kan | 14 | 1 1 1.0 0 | 46 711 15.5 3 |
| 1989 kan | 7 | 1 -9 -9.0 0 | 7 95 13.6 1 |
| 1989 phi | 6 | 1 -9 -9.0 0 | 1 12 12.0 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 126 | 13 53 4.1 0 | 353 6372 18.1 33 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


5 catches for 68 yards in the first year, and 7 catches for 179 his second year. Other than pretty good yardage for 7 catches, nothing special about 12 catches in 2 years.

This was a 5th round draft pick for the Chiefs.

Carlos Carson.

Don't write these 2 guys off just yet.

And his opposite WR who was undrafted Stephone Paige...


+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1983 kan | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 30 528 17.6 6 |
| 1984 kan | 16 | 3 19 6.3 0 | 30 541 18.0 4 |
| 1985 kan | 16 | 1 15 15.0 0 | 43 943 21.9 10 |
| 1986 kan | 16 | 2 -2 -1.0 0 | 52 829 15.9 11 |
| 1987 kan | 12 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 43 707 16.4 4 |
| 1988 kan | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 61 902 14.8 7 |
| 1989 kan | 14 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 44 759 17.2 2 |
| 1990 kan | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 65 1021 15.7 5 |
| 1991 kan | 3 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 9 111 12.3 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 125 | 6 32 5.3 0 | 377 6341 16.8 49 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

It has to do where he was picked in comparison to Hannon and Webb.

But really, how many times have we heard this concerning these type of players year after year.

Hey, they could be the next Jesse Haynes!

Webb should be the #3 right now and if he beats out Parker than the #2.

Danta Hall CANNOT be our #3 this year.

Agreed hall needs to just do returns. Even that is becoming to much.

I think it's too much because he is focusing more on offense and taking special teams for granted

You've got to be kidding me.

I think Dante <i>lives</i> for kick returns.

He may. But I think he gets his mind focused more on offense, plus the physical fatigue of that too. I think he plays like he thinks he can walk on the field and return just fine. Kinda takes it for granted. Then when he doesn't do well he starts forcing and making bad decisions. Thus my stating I think he is focusing too much on offense and getting pounded as well.