Only good team on their schedule? They lost to a non-BCS-bowl bound school.

:p

I agree with virtually all of that.

I'm not mad at KU. I'm mad at the system for the reasons you cite. I want a playoff. Always have, even when MU was going 4-7. I'd like to see both MU and KU in a playoff with a shot at the title. I don't know if my blood pressure could handle them meeting up again, though, with even more on the line. :)

Hey, if I were them, I'd be happy about backing into a prestigious bowl game. I'd buy a t-shirt and everything.

I just think it's disenchanting for fans like those of these two teams, of teams that aren't traditional football powers, that have to earn respect on the field and in the BCS rankings, to have bowl organizers tell you about how none of that stuff matters. What matters is who they think will make them the most money.

I don't mean to offend all of the Missouri people, but there are a few of them that are so ignorant (and they know who they are) that I can't help but go off and ridicule them

I don't mean to be a dick about it, but it's hard not to be when you read some of the dribble that a few of them spit out

And I agree that the system is terribly flawed. MU deserved to play in a BCS bowl, but I as a Jayhawk fan really had nothing to do with them not getting selected. Neither really did my school. The problem is the system and the BCS bowl committee handshakers and fast-talkers

Yep. We're hopelessly idealistic, but I like my college postseason to be about rewarding achievement and determining the best, not making gobs of money (which I think the bowls would make even more of in a playoff, but that's a whole 'nother huge fish to fry).

It's sad, that wanting the system to be fair and unbiased is being hopelessly idealistic.

ROFL

That's rich, really it is. Pot meet kettle. It's dicks like you pointing and laughing that got all this crap stirred up again in the first place.

And your school and whatever shady below-board crap they pulled to make this deal happen has everything to do with it. That shitbag AD of yours is every bit the cheating slimeball Shanahan is - perhaps even worse, since even the Rat doesn't have the power to render moot games already won by other teams.

end the the thread with this post, perfect.

The biggest problem here is that everyone has been arguing football when football had very little to do with this decision. The BCS choice here was made for business reasons only.

Missouri can say they got screwed but the truth is that the only thing that screwed Missouri was Missouri. Missouri didn't have to win the game to make the BCS. If Missouri would have only lost by a TD they would have been in. Hell if they would have lost by 2 TDs they probably would have been in. But the fact is, in one of the biggest games in school history, Missouri lost by 3 TDs and the game was effectively over in the 2nd half.

What happens when a team is getting blown out? People turn off their TVs and the money you make from commercials goes down. Truth KU may have gotten blown out by even more versus OU, but they didn't play them. The one game that KU lost they played within one score and the game was still on the line at the end. When the game is still in doubt, people watch. People watch better ratings for late game commercials and the more you can charge for them. How many people were still watching the end of the MU-OU game versus the end of the KU-MU game?

Like it or not the BCS is all about making money. That's why it is what it is and why a playoff system would be worlds better. But as long as the BCS gets to pick who is in what bowl that's going to be the case. Why do you think ILL is playing in the rosebowl? Ratings, you have an eastern and a western team. Why is OU playing WVU and VT playing KU?

Everyone in the Big12 would love the KU OU game, it would be the ultimate what if game. If KU had pulled out the MU game would they have played for the championship. But the KU-OU game is all about regional ratings. When you have KU playing VT you get a midwest and an eastcoast team. More people interested, more ratings. Same for OU-WVU. With OU-KU and WVU-VT, you'll have better stories and better rivalry but ultimately fewer people watching, because they are regional games.

KU is in because the BCS believes they'll get better ratings with them in than not. Missouri is out likely because of the 2nd half ratings of the OU-MU game. It is terrible for football fans, but the sad truth of the business world.

You can't say Missouri got screwed by someone else, because they screwed themselves. You take care of business and put on a good show and you'll make the BCS. Put up a stinker and you're out. Be honest, if you didn't love MU or OU how many of you would have watched the 2nd half of the game? MU put up a ratings debacle in their last game and the BCS likely wouldn't want to risk them doing it again.

It sucks that this is about business but it is and Missouri can't really blame anyone but themselves. If they had kept it close they would have been playing in a BCS game. The 2 loss issue was bogus. This was a business decision through and through.

Seriously, grow up people.

1) Mizzou deserves to be in a BCS bowl over Kansas and Illinois. The Rose Bowl tradition sucks, and the system sucks if what a team does on the field isn't 99% of what gets you into a BCS bowl.

2) Kansas didn't orchestrate anything, so quit bitching. They didn't plan on playing a bunch of chumps so they could get a BCS bowl game. They went this route because you have to START winning before you can have any sort of winning tradition, recruiting success, etc. And who cares of Perkins was on the phone this week. What's Perkins going to do, tell them to take Mizzou? Yeah, no other admin was on the phone this week, either. :rolleyes:

3) If you forgot, some good teams lost to some really bad teams this year. You can't play in a BCS conference and go 11-1 if you suck, and that's what some here are trying to say. It's not like Kansas had 108 years of difficult schedules and things just happened to work out this year. It might have something to do with a little bit of talent. But, if it makes you feel better...

4) As said before me, the system sucks, and letting Kansas in tells teams they can schedule soft teams and get a BCS bowl without even having to worry about winning the conference; which is obviously why they need another system.


Like I said last night, I think the football team will go ahead and show up and play in the Orange Bowl, if that's okay with everyone else involved. It's Kansas' first Orange Bowl in 40 years, which is enough reason to celebrate.

And you know, call me a glass-half-full person, but if Kansas could keep the score fairly close against a team that held the #1 spot in the nation for a week, and maybe if they could keep turnovers and special teams mistakes down to a bare minimum... and maybe, just maybe, in a season where App State and Stanford beat teams once in the top 5.... Nah.

Why schedule tough OOC games when you can schedule OOC cupcakes like KU did & get chosen for a BCS bowl game?

MU beats Illinois & KU but doesn't get a BCS bowl game....I say schedule Lincoln, SEMO, Emporia State & Washburn...you won't get discounted for it.

I find it funny how everyone is saying what a friggin' joke KU is today though. Gotta love it!

Do you really want to play the injury game?

Anthony Collins, our best offensive lineman - and one of the best LTs in the country - was severely hobbled and could barely walk. James McClinton, our best defensive lineman by far, was struggling with a similar injury that limited his mobility. Patrick Resby, one of our starting safeties, was out. Kendrick Harper, one of our starting CB's, was also out. Todd Reesing was only slightly injured (ankle sprain from the OSU game), although it did affect his mobility some.

Despite these injuries, I'll admit that MU was the better team, especially on offense. I wish we could've taken back our first half of the game, but that's how it goes in sports.

If KU gets healed up and keeps focused the next few weeks, I think we'll be a good matchup with VTech. Sure, the Hokies have an awesome defense, but their offense is suspect.

Feel free to rag on KU all you want, but it's the BCS that is at fault - not KU.

MU got screwed, but what can we do now but focus on our bowl game while MU prepares for theirs? Again, if a team like tOSU is playing in the National Championship and Illinois is in the freakin' Rose Bowl, then I don't see why KU's the lone scapegoat.

Another thing is that I've researched the SOS ratings of the BCS teams and KU is actually one spot ahead of USC (74 versus 75, respectively). Sure, that's not a good SOS by any means, but it is better than the 109 I'm seeing thrown around incorrectly by Fox and other sources.

Man, there's a lot of angry Tiger fans in here........ ROFL

I don't blame 'em for being mad, but they're misdirecting their anger. Every KU fan I know agrees with me that MU got shafted, but what are we going to do? Decline a BCS invite? I honestly believe that both KU and MU deserved BCS bids this year, but playing - and losing - to OU twice effectively screwed MU.

The system sucks and I really, really, really wish it would be changed to a playoff format.

MU did get screwed. I have no problem saying it. I was prepared for KU to be just out of the BCS.

Honestly, I just think it's funny that they beat KU, got to the Big 12 Championship game, and then lose the bowl they wanted to KU.

I'd like to see a playoff format as well. Let the best team prove it.

Damn - did I kill this thread? :hmmm:

I don't like Mizzou at all, but I'm not going to laugh at what happened because it could just have easily been us.

However, I've been taking crap from my Mizzou friends all day and although I'm a reasonable and patient guy, I've about lost it hearing them whine about KU instead of the freakin' BCS committee. I honestly believe that if MU had somehow kept the game with OU close, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

KU had the fate of their season in their own hands, and they blew it against MU. MU had the fate of their season in their hands, and they blew it against OU (a very good OU team, that is). In the end, it was the BCS that decided the ultimate fates of KU and MU after each teams' respective losses.

Bingo.

Errrr wrong, feel free to try again though

Orange bowl president said 1 loss vs. 2 was the deciding factor, nevermind that the 1 loss came to Missouri. No where did he ever mention the score of the Big 12 title game.

Kansas was going to the Orange no matter if OU won by 1 or 100