which is why, regardless of how much we like Sam Bradford more than Brady Quinn, Quinn makes the most sense for this franchise.

I don't think Quinn is going to be the next Peyton Manning, but I think he can be a winning QB.

We save SO much money with Quinn...we can do so many more things...and when we're ready to compete we'll have the ability to sign anyone for anything.

Yeah, and offer them a 4th.

well you totally missed my point...go figure.

Regardless of what side of the discussion you are on - this is probably the best statement in this thread.

I think this is a moot point, though.

I see Quinn as the starter in Cleveland sooner rather than later.

We can give a 3rd for Derek Anderson!!

How do you know that Quin wouldn't perform like Smith? You don't your betting a first round pick on a player that is not good enough to start on his own team.

why not if Brady Quinn would of come out after the 2005 season he would of been the number 1 pick, and if we trade for him now, we wont have a high pick anyways because we will win some football games, he is a proven winner and at a cheap Salary as well, READ MY LIPS
THERE IS NO QB IN THE DRAFT ANYWHERE CLOSE TO BRADY QUINN (FUTURE HALL OF FAMER)

Like i said, Anderson will be our Brees.

Brady would have gotten his shot, had anderson not come in, and light it up.

You just cant bench a guy playing like that.

Don't be a tard. It's obviously a joke, as was Sippio!.

My point was...

Rivers and Rodgers didn't sniff the field.

Smith was thrown right into the fire on a horrible team and it ruined his career.

Do I know Quinn will be great? Absolutely not. He could be WORSE than Smith. He could be the worst QB of all time.

But for this franchise, giving up a 1st for Quinn makes nothing but sense.

LoL what a Herm call that was.

Hmm. Maybe that makes him worth more than your top five pick.

What if we swap 1st rounders with Cleveland and give them a 2nd rounder for Quinn?

What has he done to make some of you guys willing to give what will most likely be a top 5 or higher pick+ for him? I am not trying to flame I just am wondering. I understand the cap part as I don't even want to know what Oakland paid per yard last week for all 57 yards they got from their high dollar QB. Quinn was passed over by teams needing a QB he has done nothing but get beat out and seems to be nothing more than a "name". NFL GMs seemed to be rather unimpreesed with him and he has done nothing to prove them wrong IMO. As far as the cap slot issue KC could trade out of that pick picking up players and draft picks.

I dont get it..Quinn already has some experience and would prbably be good righ away ala Aaron Rodgers..You'd rather have draft a rookie who hasnt taken a snap in the NFL who we would end up paying more money for? Quinn in college was better than Stafford is imo

I love some of you that would be so generous to part with a 2nd and a 5 for Quinn.

You are probably the same tards that think Brodie is the true answer.

wtf? a 2nd and a 5th? we cant get a good player in the first round let alone the 5th, so what does it matter?
i say trade the whole draft for quinn, we can't draft good players anyway!

Are you serious? Or just special?

Anyone consider trading a pick away for Brian Brohm? It doesn't look like they'll need him, Rodgers is playing great.

Every Sunday I think about it.

Rodgers wasn't good enough to start, neither was Brady..most quarterbacks dont start right away

I've wondered myself why this hasn't come up. Granted, he looked terrible in the preseason and is sitting 3rd on their depth chart, but I would think it should at least garner some consideration...

Not sure how I'd feel about it. I really, really didn't like Quinn coming out and I thought the Browns did us a favor. But I'd rather acquire a young QB that's been groomed for a couple of years than draft one in '09. I'd like to see us winning games sometime before 2011.

???

You have to figure what must be going through Peterson's mind right now.

Only 2 things can happen here:

1. He makes the trade for Quinn, and Brady turns out to be a stud, franchise-saving QB, AND more importantly, saves Peterson his job in the final year of his contract.

or...

2. He makes the trade for Quinn, and Brady turns out to be a flop, thus setting the franchise back a few more years, and costs Peterson his job in his final year of his contract.

QUINN= OVER-HYPED NOTRE DAME QB!

If the chiefs give the Browns a 1st for him (or even a high 2nd) I'll go postal. And I'm a peaceful man.

But then, you're noted for thinking Brodie Croyle can play.

His job is already in question, so what's to lose?

Trade firsts and give Cleveland Colquitt.

precisely:shake:

oops, wrong thread

NOW we are talking CRAZY TALK! Colquitt is our MVP!!!

Now here is some common sense thinking.:thumb:

And let me add some more, I don't give a rat's ass if you have Brady,Manning,McNabb or Ryan back there QBing if you don't have the horses in front of you, every QB you have will end up on their ass and throwing INTS PERIOD.:grr:

Our trenches on both sides of the ball are NOT solidified!!:cuss: Do not trade away picks for an unproven and especially if you can't protect him.:grr:

I agree, trade out of the No1 spot if we can and acquire more picks!!:thumb:

You are kidding, right????? He is the only defense we have right now. And not to mention potential Pro Bowler this year.:thumb:

No offense, but your ability to indentify talent on this board is severely lacking.

If you think it's a bad idea, it probably isn't.

Who says Rodgers wasn't good enough to start? It would be reerunED to start him over Favre. Hell, it was reeruned to trade Favre away this year.

That's what you ALWAYS say!


Might be true.

I would not give our first rounder for him. A third, yes. A second, I don't know.

That's a good idea for the Browns.

Trade away a #1 to get him.

Ship him out for a 3rd 2 years later.

"Thinking" does not mean being absolutely sure. If you don't know the diff, here's your chance to learn something. All I have insisted on was we should go ahead and give him this year to prove himself. That said, I still "think" he can play. His issue is durability. Not talent. And let's see if he will last out the year after he comes back.

Examples, please.

A second rounder perhaps, nothing else. Second of all, giving these idiots more picks is stupid. The last successful player they drafted they traded to minnesota. The answer is to clean house before more damage is done.

Exactly. The Browns will do no such thing.

Think bigger, guys.

Brodie Croyle.

I don't care enough to dig through the archives to show more.

If we wanted to develop a mid round QB it looks like that exception is Trent Edwards....

I've changed my mind.

Save those picks for the next HC/GM to build a team.

They've had their 3 years, next...

Take away the injuries and Croyle and Quinn, basically have the same resume talent-wise. The difference is Quinn played for the "mighty" Notre Dame and got all the hype.

our best player?

I don't think the scouts look at that Chief.

Arguably your only player.

what????????
 

wow?

Give me a break. I'm not ready to completely give up on Croyle, but Quinn was battle-tested week in and week out. Quinn made Charlie Weis look like a genius. What have they done since Quinn left?

Anderson has a TD pass so far, go cleveland, make Quinn expendable

What had they done WHILE he was there?

If we traded away our 1st pick for a QB who almost fell to the 2nd round just to save some $$$ this is the shit that is killing the chiefs we allways try to do shit different then other NFL teams.

we need to draft the best QB on board this April bite the bullet pay him his money and hope he works out if he doesn't cry me a river build a bridge and get over it thats the way the NFL WORKS...

I'd flinch at giving them a Top 5 pick AND a Fourth, but I'd definitely let that #1 fly.

I feel a lot better knowing that they at least called to inquire about Quinn.

Lord please help us get this done...

I honestly don't care about the Browns' perspective. No way would I ship a top pick for him.

There were another 10 picks after Quinn was taken.
He was in no danger of falling out of the First Round.
The Chiefs would've taken him if Cleveland had not.

Additionally after the initial 10 picks were off the board there really weren't many teams that needed to make such an investment on a QB.

I would absolutely trade away that #1.
That would save us a bunch of jack and we'd be getting a QB who has been a part of an NFL program for 2 years. As opposed to a complete unknown with no NFL experience.

That's it.

Let the season play out to see where everybody lands draft position wise. If/when we take the #1 spot, trade down, acquire more picks, THEN pull the trigger on a Quinn trade. We have too many damn holes to fill to trade away the #1 overall for a single player.

Chances are we will be TRADEING away the number one pick in the NFL what are you afraid of it?

He has been siting behind derek anderson he is geting paid shit money becuase he has less potential then any QB we take with the 1st round pick thats just the way the NFL works.

WE need to take the best QB on the board at 1 its time this organisation takes a shot a getting a franchise QB we so desperately need.

With Quarterbacks you could get the best or the worst. You see all these quarterbacks that we had the chance to get that are now just plowing ahead and everyone taking the success while we're stuck with our pick. Todd Blacklidge falls into this category, I say that we should do it because we're not going anywhere anytime soon.

Quinn comes in and gets us to 7-9 in 3 years.

Carl: Perrrrrrrfect.

every other team is going to think we are BATshit insane if we give up the 1 pick in the nfl for a a mid-low 1st round qb who has done nothing in the NFL...

Better yet Quinn comes in and is less then avg it will go down has the most Boneheaded TRADE IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL

Wow. A Cleveland fan encouraging this frenzy.

I'm more afraid that if Carl trades for Quinn, he would keep his job.

browns don't trade Quinn for draft picks
until they know he can't help them change the picking order
trade him now and just **** themselves out of a higher pick

Teams already think that -- Herm is our ****ing coach.

He's a Bronco fan, genius.

WTF? RREASON?... In this frenzy of unreasonable lust for an unproven, over-hyped QB? I'm amazed.

BINGO!

you should be more afraid of the trade the 1st pick in the Draft for a benchwarmer the chiefs all rdy have too many worst we dont need worst trade in the history of the nfl to add to our resume.

I can't read 10 pages. They probably would laugh at the fact that Peterdick would offer a 7th rounder for him.

IF i were a cleveland fan i'd want a top 5 pick in return for Quinn easy

Chiefs today pick #1 over all
with Quinn it could fall as far as 5th or 6th

WTF they should feel lucky if they get what they gave for him which is a low 1st round pick our 2nd + a 4th or 5th would be borderline overpaying for a benchwarmer.

I know that. But I'm sure he is a Cleveland fan as well being a resident there. My bad though. I stand corrected.

Wow. A Bronco fan encouraging this frenzy over a bad idea for the Chiefs. Who'da thunk that?

The point stands. Now maybe you get it.