Sincerely findthedr


I am not going to make my mind up yet on Dorsey, it takes a DT a couple/few years to get it done, but so far he is getting owned. I agree stats are misleading. Aw hell I'm drunk, Cheers to you Glen Dorsey Mr. foam finger wearing #1 fan guy.

Hey now.... wut happened to all the "Al Davis is senile! He passed on Dorsey! Ha ha ha!"

Did McFadden get a sucker at the doctors office.........**** off

Hey, I'm still happy as hell that we drafted Dorsey, and believe he's one gy that can overcome the sorryass coaching that we have in KC.

But hopefully, we'll get real coaching in here next season, and that will accelerate his progress.

bust

:doh!:

Whoa! If the Pats or Colts or even the fuckin Dolphins wanna throw rocks at us for draft or personell moves , well I'll eat that crow.

But the Raiders ? Are you serious ? The kings of bonehead free agent signings, bad draft moves, stupid trades, idiotic hold outs and contract negotiations ?

Carl Peterson is brain dead in my opinion and the Raiders could only dream of having front office personell as talented as king Carl.

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Is it too early to use the B word yet??

who ****ing knows...I hate this team.

I have two words for you guys:

Ryan Clady.

Two more for you:

Brandon Albert

brandon albert

who is better? who the **** knows. but we also got a damned good LT in this draft, and he'll be stonewalling your shitty DE's for years to come :p

I did a Google Maps search for your left tackle. There were no results.

Good god, yes.

Has everyone lost their gat damned mind?

what do you expect?

I was on cloud ****ing 9 when the Raiders took McFadden...leaving us Dorsey.

Now we have the worst god damned defense I have ever seen in my life...and dude has shown absolutely nothing.

I know DT's come along slowly...but I'm a Chiefs fan...what can go wrong usually will go wrong.

Of course he gets at least another year....

But come on, he should be having a greater impact than he is. Even you have to admit hes been a disappointment.

Not sure what the deal with him is? Was he overhyped??

The thing is...EVERYONE EVERYONE was calling this guy the best defensive tackle prospect to come out in YEARS.

It isn't like Ryan Sims.

If Dorsey busts you can't blame Carl for taking him 5th...you can really only blame Dorsey and/or the coaches for failing to develop his talents.

He's on pace for a better rookie year than about any major DT, save Kevin Williams.

I'd have to go back and watch the game, but remember that if no one else on the line can do anything, and they can't, he's going to face doubles on every play.

he has done more already than Ryan Sims ever did while he was here

Except he rarely faces double teams. If in doubt how effective or ineffective a player is go to the tape and watch how opposing offenses gameplan for him. Opposing offenses usually double Tank Tyler and leave Dorsey 1 on 1. When Ron Edwards comes in for Dorsey at his right tackle spot, Edwards gets the double team. Based on that, one could reasonably conclude Dorsey is thought of by opposing offenses as only the 3rd biggest threat at the defensive tackle position on this roster.

I thought Sims had one AVERAGE year...

EVERYONE EVERYONE was saying Robert Gallery was the safest pick in the draft & would anchor the LT spot for 10 years.

Sometimes EVERYONE EVERYONE is wrong.

Dorsey is gonna take some time he needs to get bigger and stronger.

Yeah I know...but we've all seen how great Oakland is at developing talent...almost as good as KC.

Tonight I have no ****ing right to comment about the Raiders' talent.

I would like to take out Ashley Lelie's knee, however.

I've done it before and I can provide references.

Denver is having a weird season...they can beat anyone or lose to anyone, that's for sure.

This whole division is a mess and no one is getting out of it anytime soon.

But the AFC West will be getting out of the playoffs very soon.

:doh!:

LOL, I bust anyone against me but I am god and trust me.............

You all suck. I will take a stand with 90% results but if I am wrong then it is not me......Azz

I take the odds on, I mean its 90 to 1. I am a serious ass hole.....

LOL

Wow take a chance. :doh!:

really???

Granted there is more to the DT position than just sacks but when analyzing Dorsey's play I like to use the example of Albert Haynesworth who had a mere 4.5 sacks over his first 3 years in the league. He had 6 last year and is well on his way to a DPOY type season with 8.5 sacks and 3 FF already on the season. If Haynesworth can go from being a completely mediocre head stomper to one of the best defensive players in the game then I don't see why we should be worried YET about Dorsey. It's going to take time for him to learn the game.

Agreed, it takes time to develop the skill set required to be a run stopper or a sack leader. Besides that, the guy is playing with another DT who is average at best and absolutely no outside pressure. Also, no help from the LBer's.

I'm sorry but pinning the repulsive defensive play that we have had this season on a rookie DT is naive. Warren Sapp, Albert Haynesworth, and the like all had similar if not worse stats their rookie season. People think that just because a player is big and/or fast in college means that they will be NFL stars immediately.

Our coaching is a JOKE, our DC hid under a cloak of an amazingly talented Offense in the early 2000's, and we blamed Vermeil. Now we have a "defensive" head coach, and our defense is terrible. Do the math

Terrible coaching on Defense + losses + record low sack count on year = Cunningham's pink slip.

Whitlock also called Dorsey the next Warren Sapp, this doesn't happen overnight.

If he doesn't at least improve next season, then we may have problems.

I agree with the statement, my only concern is that Dorsey doesn't have anyone to show him the correct way to do it. He has zero veteran leadership to take advice from and his coaches are awful. His best but is to look at what everyone else is doing and then do the exact opposite.

If I were him, I would be on you tube A LOT. :D

I honestly think he will be better than everyone seems to think and it might be because of this season. He is getting dominated, BUT his learning curve is high. He might build on this year and leapfrog a lot of other DT's next year or 2010 season.

I still hold him in high regards and can only hope we get a DC and an HC that can hone his skills and put players around him to help him and in turn the Defense succeed. I think he is a future leader and I hope we hold on to him and make him the anchor of the defense for years.

I just don't see success with Herm and Gunther.

You have to remember these were the same dipshits who said Bowe>Calvin Johnson and Hali>Williams because they had good rookie years.

fine. A multi year ALL PRO Line man for Steelers owns rookie Dorsey. Hmmm. color me shocked.

Everyone - except those other teams who passed on him. :doh!:

tank tyler look great last year?

I would bet you that you could find someone on this forum that thinks Bowe is better than Calvin Johnson.

no it's not! red bull says coaching isn't the reason that dorsey sucks! and he must be right, he's a ****ing genius who doesn't need stats to know that he's right!

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