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Hammock Parties 12-14-2008 04:03 PM

I'm not going to blame Larry Johnson when the offensive line can't open a hole to save it's life. Similarly, I'm not going to blame Thigpen when he has no time to throw. He had time to throw. He generally did not take advantage.

PhillyChiefFan 12-14-2008 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 5293175)
This thread is awesome. We would have won this game if:

- The defense doesn't collapse with 2 minutes to go in the game
- The defense doesn't collapse with 40 seconds to go in the game
- Bowe catches a routine onsides kick that hit him right in the hands
- Larry Johnson converts a 3rd and inches
- Tyler Thigpen was Peyton Manning

Claythan, sometimes I really think you're a voice of reason around here; but then you go and post something like this.

Oh and Conner Barth hits a field goal. can't forget that one

kstater 12-14-2008 04:04 PM

Claythan forgot to switch from his demonpenz account.

Adept Havelock 12-14-2008 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293412)
I'm not going to blame Larry Johnson when the offensive line can't open a hole to save it's life. Similarly, I'm not going to blame Thigpen when he has no time to throw. He had time to throw. He generally did not take advantage.

:BS:

That chuckleheaded waste of roster space RB you're knob-slobbering has wasted plenty of holes standing around in the backfield. Sorry, your man-crush is so SOFT he should be the new spokesman for Downy.

Stewie 12-14-2008 04:08 PM

Claythan, you're dumb. You take the "Thigpen sucks" mantra because you committed to it long ago. Don't come here and try to prove something that's not true. We all know you don't have the mental capacity to argue the point. Thigpen's play has been very good. Try arguing why LJ suddenly trips on his own shoestrings over the past few games.

kcxiv 12-14-2008 04:09 PM

I guess Thigpen is responsible for allowing Rivers to throw for over 400 yards as well? Damn he sucks. He should be in there rushing the QB.

Hammock Parties 12-14-2008 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chief103182 (Post 5293383)
If you'd drop this issue, people would quit attacking you for it. Thigpen is not the glaring issue here.

I don't mind the attacks. They're just the product of weak minds.

Quarterback is always going to be an issue when the offense sputters and dies. Are you kidding me?

The defense choked, yeah, but they kept setting up the offense in the second half and Thigpen just did...nothing.

A couple drives and we're not even having this conversation. But Thigpen just did...nothing. Nothing at all.

kcxiv 12-14-2008 04:09 PM

Yes about LJ. He just doesnt have the heart to play football anymore. I was on LJ's side for a long time, but its time to cut his ass loose and get someone younger with more speed. I know our Oline sucks, but LJ seems to go down everytime he's touched now days.

petegz28 12-14-2008 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293450)
I don't mind the attacks. They're just the product of weak minds.

Quarterback is always going to be an issue when the offense sputters and dies. Are you kidding me?

The defense choked, yeah, but they kept setting up the offense in the second half and Thigpen just did...nothing.

A couple drives and we're not even having this conversation. But Thigpen just did...nothing. Nothing at all.



Yeah, I mean the defense gave is great field position all day. I think 1 drive maybe.

triple 12-14-2008 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Adept Havelock (Post 5293426)
:BS:

That chuckleheaded waste of roster space RB you're knob-slobbering has wasted plenty of holes standing around in the backfield. Sorry, your man-crush is so SOFT he should be the new spokesman for Downy.

he runs up a lineman's ass all the time when he should be going outside or making a cut. dude has zero field vision.

and i've never seen a running back who is caught from behind so frequently

Hammock Parties 12-14-2008 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5293457)
Yeah, I mean the defense gave is great field position all day. I think 1 drive maybe.

They kept stopping the Chargers over and over and over and over again. Christ, we had 8 possessions in the second half.

kcxiv 12-14-2008 04:12 PM

Thigpen is a young qb thats going to make mistakes. He's going to have a bad game. Hey, all world rookie Matt Ryan threw 2 interceptions today. Shit like this is GOING To happen.

I guess Dorsey doesnt have what it takes to be a DT in this league either. He's been invisible in his rookie campaign. He was drafted to high to be looking like he is!

*sarcasm of course*

mikey23545 12-14-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293372)
Every snap of the ball is a chance to succeed or fail.

Unfortunately Thigpen just kept failing, and failing, and failing, and failing...

Just like you at life or journalism, huh?

bowener 12-14-2008 04:12 PM

I think we need a new defense. Then we wont dump the entire game on the shoulders of a rookie.

Johnny Vegas 12-14-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Adept Havelock (Post 5293426)
:BS:

That chuckleheaded waste of roster space RB you're knob-slobbering has wasted plenty of holes standing around in the backfield. Sorry, your man-crush is SOFT.

the back field that lost a back up to season ending surgery? I see all these RB's with big contracts hurt every season and missing games. LJ had one fluke with the foot injury, but has always been ready to play on game day other than that. He's more reliable than you think. I just know it won't convince you.

Hammock Parties 12-14-2008 04:14 PM

Larry showed great heart on that third and one...

petegz28 12-14-2008 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293462)
They kept stopping the Chargers over and over and over and over again. Christ, we had 8 possessions in the second half.

Well blame Thigy for being paid $40 mil and not running for 1 yard, ok?

kcxiv 12-14-2008 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by badmajama (Post 5293476)
the back field that lost a back up to season ending surgery? I see all these RB's with big contracts hurt every season and missing games. LJ had one fluke with the foot injury, but has always been ready to play on game day other than that. He's more reliable than you think. I just know it won't convince you.

Cept he falls over to easy. He's not running away from anyone. He's not shifty anymore. He's only meant to run inside the tackles once he cant do that, its game over for him. He doesnt have the speed anymore to run outside the tackles like he used too. He's used up with this Oline.

Adept Havelock 12-14-2008 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by badmajama (Post 5293476)
the back field that lost a back up to season ending surgery? I see all these RB's with big contracts hurt every season and missing games. LJ had one fluke with the foot injury, but has always been ready to play on game day other than that. He's more reliable than you think. I just know it won't convince you.

He is reliable. I can always be confident that in a must-have-yards scenario, he'll do his best Greg Hill impression.

petegz28 12-14-2008 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293485)
Larry showed great heart on that third and one...

So what does a big, black cock taste like?

Oh Snap 12-14-2008 04:15 PM

im curious as to what a fat over weight slob such as your self, would know what it takes to play physical athletic sport such as football....

A world class NFL scout you are not, claythan...

BigMeatballDave 12-14-2008 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293485)
Larry showed great heart on that third and one...

:spock:

kcxiv 12-14-2008 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 5293495)
:spock:

haha, I laughed when i seen that.

Mr. Arrowhead 12-14-2008 04:17 PM

this coming from a guy, who worshiped a damon horrid

Adept Havelock 12-14-2008 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293485)
Larry showed great heart on that third and one...

ROFL Great heart, but poor vision, commitment, strength, will, ability, and production.

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Originally Posted by triple (Post 5293458)
he runs up a lineman's ass all the time when he should be going outside or making a cut. dude has zero field vision.

and i've never seen a running back who is caught from behind so frequently

Pretty much. The overpaid/overrated RB's field vision makes him the Bizzaro-world version of Marcus Allen.

He's becoming more and more of a larger Greg Hill every week.

Hammock Parties 12-14-2008 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5293488)
Cept he falls over to easy. He's not running away from anyone. He's not shifty anymore. He's only meant to run inside the tackles once he cant do that, its game over for him. He doesnt have the speed anymore to run outside the tackles like he used too. He's used up with this Oline.

He's averaging 4.5 YPC.

Get some dudes who can block and he'll rape.

Thigpen will probably still fire terrible passes, even with perfect blocking. If he doesn't take off and run first.

petegz28 12-14-2008 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293517)
He's averaging 4.5 YPC.

Get some dudes who can block and he'll rape.

Thigpen will probably still fire terrible passes, even with perfect blocking. If he doesn't take off and run first.

BLA BLA BLA.....he couldn't get 1 yard when it mattered....AGAIN!
And yea, that TD thigy threw to DB was terrible! I mean it hit him righ tin the numbers!

kcxiv 12-14-2008 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293517)
He's averaging 4.5 YPC.

Get some dudes who can block and he'll rape.

Thigpen will probably still fire terrible passes, even with perfect blocking. If he doesn't take off and run first.

Hell, thats like almost every running back in the league. Get a good line and you run for big yards!

Hammock Parties 12-14-2008 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5293522)
BLA BLA BLA.....he couldn't get 1 yard when it mattered....AGAIN!

What was he supposed to do? Activate his rocket boosters?

The dude sold out his body, Priest-style. The OL got shoved backwards right into his jump. Jim Brown in his prime wouldn't have gotten that first down.

Hammock Parties 12-14-2008 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5293524)
Hell, thats like almost every running back in the league. Get a good line and you run for big yards!

Do you really think "every" RB in the league would be averaging 4.5 YPC behind THIS line?

Larry has TWO 60+ yard runs this year...you think "every" RB can boast that?

Rigodan 12-14-2008 04:23 PM

Thigpen wasn't the only reason we lost but Claythan's right that hes not that good right now. His ability to throw down the field is terrible. Bradley was open on the 3rd and 1 but thigpen threw it out of bounds. I cant even remember 1 completion that traveled more than 10 yards in the air today. His pick in the red zone he tried to throw in between 4 guys and he got lucky when a charger dropped a pick 6. I didn't see much to get excited about today.

petegz28 12-14-2008 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293533)
Do you really think "every" RB in the league would be averaging 4.5 YPC behind THIS line?

Larry has TWO 60+ yard runs this year...you think "every" RB can boast that?

Dude, stats are for losers. How about the 1 yard he didn't get to win the game, AGAIN?ROFL

Rausch 12-14-2008 04:25 PM

Worthless thread by a worthless speculative "reporter" after a loss.

petegz28 12-14-2008 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rigodan (Post 5293539)
Thigpen wasn't the only reason we lost but Claythan's right that hes not that good right now. His ability to throw down the field is terrible. Bradley was open on the 3rd and 1 but thigpen threw it out of bounds. I cant even remember 1 completion that traveled more than 10 yards in the air today. His pick in the red zone he tried to throw in between 4 guys and he got lucky when a charger dropped a pick 6. I didn't see much to get excited about today.

Ok, so the bombs he hit Bradley on game after game his first few games don't count?

Bradley was not open and it would of been a tough catch regardless of where it was thrown.

His pick in the red zone was tipped at the line then again by a LB, then picked.

dirk digler 12-14-2008 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293245)
It's incredibly sad that you have to resort to ad hominem, Frank. But I guess that's all the ammo you have when your quarterback spends the entire second half with his thumb up his ass. Christ, he had 35 yards passing.

You have to cut him some slack Clay this is like his 7 or 8th start

kcxiv 12-14-2008 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293533)
Do you really think "every" RB in the league would be averaging 4.5 YPC behind THIS line?

Larry has TWO 60+ yard runs this year...you think "every" RB can boast that?

In this system we have right now. Most will yes, he still didnt run for 100 yards though. Someone else in this system thats shiftier and faster may be averaging more yards becuase we are in the spread offense. Hell, even the announcers were talking about us needing a different kind of running back for the spread offense.

RINGLEADER 12-14-2008 04:27 PM

His last drive was bad. We really shouldn't have even had a chance at a field goal. But he's still learning. A lot of really good QBs have done equally stupid stuff early in their careers.

He should totally have the reigns next season IMO. This loss has more to do with LJ not being able to pick up a yard on 3rd and short and our defense giving up 14 points in the last 80 seconds of the game...

Hammock Parties 12-14-2008 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5293554)
You have to cut him some slack Clay this is like his 7 or 8th start

When he plays so well in the first half and then shits the bed in the second half, there's something wrong. There's no reason I shouldn't expect him to play at least halfway decent in the second half. 30 yards passing is unacceptable.

The Bad Guy 12-14-2008 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293450)
I don't mind the attacks. They're just the product of weak minds.

Quarterback is always going to be an issue when the offense sputters and dies. Are you kidding me?

The defense choked, yeah, but they kept setting up the offense in the second half and Thigpen just did...nothing.

A couple drives and we're not even having this conversation. But Thigpen just did...nothing. Nothing at all.

Weak minds?

Hilarious.

You keep backing up your bullshit arguments with complete and utter nonsense.

When you keep doing that, I'll keep pointing out how much of a complete reerun you are.

Johnny Vegas 12-14-2008 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5293556)
In this system we have right now. Most will yes, he still didnt run for 100 yards though. Someone else in this system thats shiftier and faster may be averaging more yards becuase we are in the spread offense. Hell, even the announcers were talking about us needing a different kind of running back for the spread offense.

he had only 7 carries the whole game on his last 63 yard run.

dirk digler 12-14-2008 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293573)
When he plays so well in the first half and then shits the bed in the second half, there's something wrong. There's no reason I shouldn't expect him to play at least halfway decent in the second half. 30 yards passing is unacceptable.

Playcalling? It seems the Chiefs went into the Herm Shell.

I am willing to admit we really struggle in the 3rd quarter and I have no idea why but I don't put that all on Thigpen.

The Bad Guy 12-14-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293573)
When he plays so well in the first half and then shits the bed in the second half, there's something wrong. There's no reason I shouldn't expect him to play at least halfway decent in the second half. 30 yards passing is unacceptable.

He's a basically a ****ing rookie making his 7th start of his career.

1ChiefsDan 12-14-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 5293374)
Posts like this make me wonder how people manage to land jobs.

he has a job? I thought he wrote for WPI.

kcxiv 12-14-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5293544)
Dude, stats are for losers. How about the 1 yard he didn't get to win the game, AGAIN?ROFL

I just checked NFL.com for some "stats". There are a ton of runningbacks over the 4.5 yards per carry. Some in the 5.0 range. Hell even Jamal Charles is at 5.7. hah

Rausch 12-14-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5293574)
When you keep doing that, I'll keep pointing out how much of a complete reerun you are.

Why?

Its' what most of CP wants to hear these days.

He's an icon. An Idol.

He posts animated jpegs...

kcxiv 12-14-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5293586)
He's a basically a ****ing rookie making his 7th start of his career.

People want him to be Steve Young already. hell, even took someone like Steve Young a few years before he was the player he was.

dirk digler 12-14-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5293586)
He's a basically a ****ing rookie making his 7th start of his career.

Yep. He is still better than either Croyle or Huard who struggle the whole game

kcxiv 12-14-2008 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5293596)
Yep. He is still better than either Croyle or Huard who struggle the whole game

If we had Croyle /Huard still qb'ing this team, we would be sitting at about 12 points per game.

Oh Snap 12-14-2008 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293517)
He's averaging 4.5 YPC.

Get some dudes who can block and he'll rape.

Thigpen will probably still fire terrible passes, even with perfect blocking. If he doesn't take off and run first.

the bulk of that came from his one fluke game against denver...

Johnny Vegas 12-14-2008 04:32 PM

stats are for losers?? whatever the **** that means...

The Bad Guy 12-14-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by denverdanchiefsfan (Post 5293587)
he has a job? I thought he wrote for WPI.

I'm going to start considering the source.

He's 26. With no job. No girlfriend. Never been laid.

kcxiv 12-14-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by badmajama (Post 5293600)
stats are for losers?? whatever the **** that means...

He means stats are not everything when evaluating someone. Especially someone whos' playing the hardest position on the field and hasnt even played a full 16 games at that spot.

Rigodan 12-14-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5293553)
Ok, so the bombs he hit Bradley on game after game his first few games don't count?

Bradley was not open and it would of been a tough catch regardless of where it was thrown.

His pick in the red zone was tipped at the line then again by a LB, then picked.

Yea hes hit Bradley in previous games but only because Bradley gets himself so wide open. Not many of those were very hard throws to make. He's still underthrown a lot of deep balls this year whether they were catches or not.

triple 12-14-2008 04:36 PM

claythan makes me hate larry johnson, this forum, and the team

RINGLEADER 12-14-2008 04:40 PM

All these debates about Thigpen are stupid unless you factor in that he could easily be 6-2 since we went to the spread if we had even an average defense.

With the Ravens defense he'd be 8-0.

Quesadilla Joe 12-14-2008 05:04 PM

Claythan is right when it comes to the second half..... It seems he plays a good first half and then does nothing the last 2 quarters..... He is a good scrambler but he doesn't make any throws you want your QB to make. It is always a short easy pass to Gonzo or Bowe. That redzone INT is inexcusable...

I can't believe the Chiefs choked this game away.:cuss:

kcxiv 12-14-2008 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cutler7624 (Post 5293749)
Claythan is right when it comes to the second half..... It seems he plays a good first half and then does nothing the last 2 quarters..... He is a good scrambler but he doesn't make any throws you want your QB to make. It is always a short easy pass to Gonzo or Bowe. That redzone INT is inexcusable...

I can't believe the Chiefs choked this game away.:cuss:

The thing is our passes are called to be short and quick. He made some bad choices, but you will get that with a guy who's not even started a full season in the NFL. That is to be expected.

petegz28 12-14-2008 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cutler7624 (Post 5293749)
Claythan is right when it comes to the second half..... It seems he plays a good first half and then does nothing the last 2 quarters..... He is a good scrambler but he doesn't make any throws you want your QB to make. It is always a short easy pass to Gonzo or Bowe. That redzone INT is inexcusable...

I can't believe the Chiefs choked this game away.:cuss:

you mean when the ball was tipped at the line and again by a LB was Thigy's fault? WOW! I would think the linemen blocking would of had something to do with that?

And heaven forbid the kid who has only played 10 games in the NFL goes to a HOF TE as a security blanket. I mean that is ****ing stupid right?

Rigodan 12-14-2008 05:10 PM

There were 4 guys around gonzo when he threw the ball. Could have been picked off even if it wasn't tipped. Flat out a terrible decision.

Sure-Oz 12-14-2008 05:12 PM

I like thiggy but he relies way too much on Gonzalez....but that said we havent had any QB here in awhile remotely move this offense. The kid is going to get better, atleast he should...

I also think we need to take a hard look at another QB in the draft too

kcxiv 12-14-2008 05:17 PM

We have to absolutely draft another qb, but when do you do it? IMO we cant do it in the first round. Not right now. Not with Herm here. Stafford is out of the picture, that shit isnt going to happen for the Chiefs. So who after that?

petegz28 12-14-2008 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 5293781)
I like thiggy but he relies way too much on Gonzalez....but that said we havent had any QB here in awhile remotely move this offense. The kid is going to get better, atleast he should...

I also think we need to take a hard look at another QB in the draft too

K, you are the 3rd string QB and all the sudden, 6 games into the season you find yourself as the starter. Would you not go to a HOF TE a lot too for the season? I agree with you, but I think people bag on him going to TG too much. I don't think there is such a thing.

Sure-Oz 12-14-2008 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5293816)
K, you are the 3rd string QB and all the sudden, 6 games into the season you find yourself as the starter. Would you not go to a HOF TE a lot too for the season? I agree with you, but I think people bag on him going to TG too much. I don't think there is such a thing.

There are other WR's out there, he does throw in triple coverage sometimes too him. Yes a young QB relies on a TE, esp a HOF'er to be....

He'll learn but is the spread our future?? not sure if we can win with it

Quesadilla Joe 12-14-2008 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5293764)
you mean when the ball was tipped at the line and again by a LB was Thigy's fault? WOW! I would think the linemen blocking would of had something to do with that?

And heaven forbid the kid who has only played 10 games in the NFL goes to a HOF TE as a security blanket. I mean that is ****ing stupid right?

Dude. Thigpen is in his second year in the NFL and cannot do a 3 step drop, he never goes downfield, he only goes for his first read and then scrambles.... He has a long way to go because that offense is the most predictable offense in the league. I don't think you can open the playbook up with Thigpen.

petegz28 12-14-2008 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cutler7624 (Post 5293825)
Dude. Thigpen is in his second year in the NFL and cannot do a 3 step drop, he never goes downfield, he only goes for his first read and then scrambles.... He has a long way to go because that offense is the most predictable offense in the league. I don't think you can open the playbook up with Thigpen.

thigpen, for all intensive purposes is playing his first season. Secondly, I don't care what offense he runs if it works.

Are you serious, he has a long way to go? A kid playing for the first time in the NFL has a long way to go? I would never of thunk such non-sense.

If our offense is so predictable, how come we don't go 3 and out 6 times in a row ever game anymore? How come LJ is rushing for more yards in this O than when we ran a more traditional?

As far as the "spread" goes, you will probably see more and more teams in the NFL go to it. And let's give the kid a full season as the starter from day 1 like the other guys were before we start saying what he cannot do.

milkman 12-14-2008 05:49 PM

Thigpen is a long way from being the answer at QB for the Chiefs, but to lay the blame for this loss on anyone but Herman ****ing Edwards and Chan Gailey is stupidity at it's highest (lowest?) level.

milkman 12-14-2008 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5293850)
thigpen, for all intensive purposes is playing his first season. Secondly, I don't care what offense he runs if it works.

Are you serious, he has a long way to go? A kid playing for the first time in the NFL has a long way to go? I would never of thunk such non-sense.

If our offense is so predictable, how come we don't go 3 and out 6 times in a row ever game anymore? How come LJ is rushing for more yards in this O than when we ran a more traditional?

As far as the "spread" goes, you will probably see more and more teams in the NFL go to it. And let's give the kid a full season as the starter from day 1 like the other guys were before we start saying what he cannot do.


"intensive purposes"?

aturnis 12-14-2008 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5293065)
Thigpen just isn't good enough. He disappeared for an entire half. Our downfield passing game was terrible today. Thigpen's running was more impressive than his passing.

And of course his endgame was terrible. A five-yard run and a 10-yard dumpoff to Gonzalez? Pathetic.

We need a new quarterback.

You, my friend, are a ****ing reerun. If you had half a brain, you would realize the defense lost this game.

aturnis 12-14-2008 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5293945)
Thigpen is a long way from being the answer at QB for the Chiefs, but to lay the blame for this loss on anyone but Herman ****ing Edwards and Chan Gailey is stupidity at it's highest (lowest?) level.

Rep!

MIAdragon 12-14-2008 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5293945)
Thigpen is a long way from being the answer at QB for the Chiefs, but to lay the blame for this loss on anyone but Herman ****ing Edwards and Chan Gailey is stupidity at it's highest (lowest?) level.

I really wonder how much of the 2nd half woes are Chan. I bet that Herm gives Chan free reign in the 1st half then takes over in the 2nd.

MTG#10 12-14-2008 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cutler7624 (Post 5293825)
Dude. Thigpen is in his second year in the NFL and cannot do a 3 step drop, he never goes downfield, he only goes for his first read and then scrambles.... He has a long way to go because that offense is the most predictable offense in the league. I don't think you can open the playbook up with Thigpen.

Never goes downfield? Did you watch the KC/Den game last week? :spock:

milkman 12-14-2008 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5293965)
I really wonder how much of the 2nd half woes are Chan. I bet that Herm gives Chan free reign in the 1st half then takes over in the 2nd.

You may well be right.

In fact I believe this to be true, but we only have our belief to do on.

Unless, and until, we get solid evidence to support that belief, they both get the blame.

milkman 12-14-2008 06:01 PM

I'm watching this Baltimore game, and the Ravens have a 6 point lead, with about 6 mins remaining with a rookie QB, and they just took a shot downfield.

They aren't sitting on the lead.
They are attacking.

The Bad Guy 12-14-2008 06:02 PM

The Ravens coach is unbelievable how he turned them around. He lets his coordinators coordinate. They play ****ing filthy defense, they fixed their O-line, they have a rookie QB and they are going to be 10-4.

That is what rebuilding looks like.

King_Chief_Fan 12-14-2008 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5293959)
You, my friend, are a ****ing reerun. If you had half a brain, you would realize the defense lost this game.

THe d lost it in the end...but we saw the best d for 3 quarters for the first time in a long time. It would have been nice for the o to get some first downs and score at least a field goal in the second half.

Skip Towne 12-14-2008 06:11 PM

I'll bet Herm is orgasmic over this field goal fest.

shaneo69 12-14-2008 06:20 PM

I'll take Thigpen right now over Trent Green at the peak of his career.

MTG#10 12-14-2008 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69 (Post 5294104)
I'll take Thigpen right now over Trent Green at the peak of his career.

ROFL

ChiefsCountry 12-14-2008 07:26 PM

I dont about this game but Clayton is finally right on something. Thigpen isnt our QB of the future.

theultimatekcchiefsfan 12-14-2008 07:56 PM

I agree Thigpen made a bad decision at the end of the game. But to say he isnt good enough is crazy. This guy always has us in the game to the end. He is exciting and can scramble.

I believe that Larry Johnson is the weak link on offense. If Jamal Charles was getting Larry carries we would be winning more. If Kolby Smith would not have gotten hurt, who knows.

I am so tired of Larrys no move, pause, drag your leg and go everytime we need a big play. Larry can make one or 2 big plays every now and then, but if it is really needed, he fails almost every time.

I would love to unload this guy and his baggage and move on.


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