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milkman 07-26-2009 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5925934)
Where in that post did I say Orton > Cutler?

Trading Cutler got us a good cover corner, and a good DE/OLB, and a safety first QB.
You do not specifically say that Orton is better than Cutler, but the implication is that Orton is better for the Donkeys.

A somewhat talented game manager is never better than a potential franchise game changing QB, regardless of system or circumstance.

Quesadilla Joe 07-26-2009 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5925938)
You do not specifically say that Orton is better than Cutler, but the implication is that Orton is better for the Donkeys.

A somewhat talented game manager is never better than a potential franchise game changing QB, regardless of system or circumstance.
I just don't think Orton's play will hurt us. I think he can win games for us with what we have around him, and the system he is in.

Don't you think that Orton could have put up the exact same numbers that Cassel did if he was in New England last year instead of Chicago?

milkman 07-26-2009 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5925944)
I just don't think Orton's play will hurt us. I think he can win games for us with what we have around him, and the system he is in.

Don't you think that Orton could have put up the exact same numbers that Cassel did if he was in New England last year instead of Chicago?
No I don't.

I haven't bought into the Casel bandwagon, but one thing I do know is that he is a far more accurate passer in the short to intermediate passes than Orton, and many of the yac yards they put up are the result of that accuracy.

I don't think Orton is terrible, but neither do I think he is nearly as good as you try to paint him to be.

bdeg 07-26-2009 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5925944)
I just don't think Orton's play will hurt us. I think he can win games for us with what we have around him, and the system he is in.

Don't you think that Orton could have put up the exact same numbers that Cassel did if he was in New England last year instead of Chicago?
no and obviously neither does your coach

Quesadilla Joe 07-26-2009 11:53 AM
There is no doubt in my mind that Orton would have just as good if not better numbers if he was put in the same situation as Cassel. Heck Orton was putting up similar numbers with Rashied Davis and Devin Hester as his No 1 and No 2 receivers before he got hurt. Imagine what he could have done with Moss, Welker, Watson, that offensive line, and NE's coaching staff.

Tom Brady the year before Randy Moss and Wes Welker
87.9 QB Rating
3529 Yards
61.8 Comp %
24 TD's
12 Int's

Tom Brady after Randy Moss and Wes Welker
117.2 QB Rating
4806 Yards
68.9 Comp%
50 TD's
8 Int's

King_Chief_Fan 07-26-2009 01:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5925944)
I just don't think Orton's play will hurt us. I think he can win games for us with what we have around him, and the system he is in.

Don't you think that Orton could have put up the exact same numbers that Cassel did if he was in New England last year instead of Chicago?
ROFL:LOL:
I can't get over a donkey fan coming to this board pimping his QB and expecting Chiefs fans to agree with him. You, don'tknowmo, are an idiot. Your coach coveted Cassel so bad, he drove of your qbotf. Sorry, Orton wasn't his first choice and in reality had to settle for him.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-26-2009 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5925983)
There is no doubt in my mind that Orton would have just as good if not better numbers if he was put in the same situation as Cassel. Heck Orton was putting up similar numbers with Rashied Davis and Devin Hester as his No 1 and No 2 receivers before he got hurt. Imagine what he could have done with Moss, Welker, Watson, that offensive line, and NE's coaching staff.

Tom Brady the year before Randy Moss and Wes Welker
87.9 QB Rating
3529 Yards
61.8 Comp %
24 TD's
12 Int's

Tom Brady after Randy Moss and Wes Welker
117.2 QB Rating
4806 Yards
68.9 Comp%
50 TD's
8 Int's
:banghead:

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-26-2009 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 5925515)
:LOL:LMAO ****in' Rat.

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5925527)

McDaniels has 100% confidence in his system.
Oh, well shit; that changes everything!

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5925571)
If Josh knows one thing, its QB's. He chose Orton over Jason Campbell, Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Luke McKown(sp?), Kellen Clemmens, and Alex Smith.

This is the system that Orton should have been playing his entire life. He will play very well in it this year.
ROFL

Congratulations; your coach is as ****ing reeruned as you are.

Jethopper 07-26-2009 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5925934)
Where in that post did I say Orton > Cutler?

Trading Cutler got us a good cover corner, and a good DE/OLB, and a safety first QB.
So you have seen the corner and DE/OLB play in the NFL? So you have seen this QB play in your system? This is homerish even for a homer.

Jethopper 07-27-2009 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5925983)
There is no doubt in my mind that Orton would have just as good if not better numbers if he was put in the same situation as Cassel. Heck Orton was putting up similar numbers with Rashied Davis and Devin Hester as his No 1 and No 2 receivers before he got hurt. Imagine what he could have done with Moss, Welker, Watson, that offensive line, and NE's coaching staff.

Tom Brady the year before Randy Moss and Wes Welker
87.9 QB Rating
3529 Yards
61.8 Comp %
24 TD's
12 Int's

Tom Brady after Randy Moss and Wes Welker
117.2 QB Rating
4806 Yards
68.9 Comp%
50 TD's
8 Int's
You forgot the superbowls he won.

the Talking Can 07-27-2009 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5925527)
Denver wasn't going anywhere with a turnover machine at QB and a defense that can't stop the run or the pass. Denver is going to be much better then we were last year.

McDaniels has 100% confidence in his system. Actually if you listen to this podcast he says "the quarterback in our system is never going to have to go out there and win the game by himself. Never has to, never will"
that's the dumbest thing a football coach has ever said, anywhere, ever.....


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