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Coach 09-01-2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6024169)
Pollard is still right now the exact same guy he was on a draft day.

A safety who goes for big hits and whifs...is slow in coverage and isn't smart enough to get in the proper positions to make up for his lack of speed.

Here's my question. Since he's "allegedly" slow for a safety, would his speed be more benefitial as a rush backer?

Mecca 09-01-2009 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 6024176)
Here's my question. Since he's "allegedly" slow for a safety, would his speed be more benefitial as a rush backer?

Probably not because you'd have to put 35lbs on him ....right now he is not remotely bigger enough for that.

Rush backers are 250+

Hammock Parties 09-01-2009 09:08 PM

Pollard should be playing McGraw's role.

And if you guys watched the whole game, DaJuan Morgan had a very nice second half. He came down in the box and did what safeties are supposed to do.

Mecca 09-01-2009 09:09 PM

Pretty much, Pollard should be the backup special teams guy who never actually plays defensive downs.

I hope to god McGraw doesn't make the team.

Titty Meat 09-01-2009 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6024169)
Pollard is still right now the exact same guy he was on a draft day.

A safety who goes for big hits and whifs...is slow in coverage and isn't smart enough to get in the proper positions to make up for his lack of speed.

Yea I didn't like the Pollard pick.

Mecca 09-01-2009 09:11 PM

Seriously if they can find anyone else to start and put Pollard in the backup role that would be great.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-01-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6024195)
Pollard should be playing McGraw's role.

And if you guys watched the whole game, DaJuan Morgan had a very nice second half. He came down in the box and did what safeties are supposed to do.

That hit on Moreno though, that's the same shit a lot of talented college guys do with the "lower the shoulder"-trip. Then they get to the NFL and try that on a pro RB, and they get knocked back a step just like Flowers did against Atlanta last year when Thomas was being dragged down the field.

RedThat 09-01-2009 09:40 PM

I love Pollard! He's good. In fact, he is so good that he determined the starting quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. Lets face the facts, if Pollard never injured Brady we would have never had Cassel.

Now, with that being said, the Chiefs should get him back to what he was doing best, blocking punts.

Mecca 09-01-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6024296)
I love Pollard! He's good. In fact, he is so good that he determined the starting quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. Lets face the facts, if Pollard never injured Brady we would have never had Cassel.

Now, with that being said, the Chiefs should get him back to what he was doing best, blocking punts.

If Cassel sucks...that's another strike.

RedThat 09-01-2009 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6024300)
If Cassel sucks...that's another strike.

He'll be fine. I think If Cassel has the protection, he'll succeed. i expect him to get some lumps this year, unless the Chiefs improve their Oline. I could see them doing that in the off-season.

MoreLemonPledge 09-01-2009 09:45 PM

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89...00418_8140.jpg

**** BERNARD POLLARD

Hammock Parties 09-01-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6024314)

LMAO

Post is overdue.

Buehler445 09-01-2009 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6024300)
If Cassel sucks...that's another strike.

I'm fairly certain that Cassel is better than Thigpen

Hammock Parties 09-01-2009 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6024300)
If Cassel sucks...that's another strike.

If Cassel sucks, they'll be fired.

Cassel is good, however. Damn good.

Reerun_KC 09-01-2009 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6024321)
I'm fairly certain that Cassel is better than Thigpen

Going out on a limb here professor, but unless we upgrade to NE's talent level.. Castle will look just as human and shitty as the rest of our QB's have post Green...

Reerun_KC 09-01-2009 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6024329)
If Cassel sucks, they'll be fired.

Cassel is good, however. Damn good.

This is Castles Kisss of Death... Once you start the slobbering its all down hill from there....

RedThat 09-01-2009 09:50 PM

Upgrade the offensive line it's the most important component to an offense.

Mecca 09-01-2009 09:51 PM

I remember when he had that big column about how awesome Brodie Croyle looked...that was written before last season.

Hammock Parties 09-01-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6024338)
Upgrade the offensive line it's the most important component to an offense.

TRUE FANS MOTHER****ER

Mecca 09-01-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6024338)
Upgrade the offensive line it's the most important component to an offense.

Kansas City fans are overly obsessed with offensive lines.

Hammock Parties 09-01-2009 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6024339)
I remember when he had that big column about how awesome Brodie Croyle looked...that was written before last season.

Uh, the column was ACCURATE.

As was Croyle that night.

And Croyle is proving me right once again this preseason.

He's ALWAYS had talent and the ability to flat hum it.

Mecca 09-01-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6024345)
Uh, the column was ACCURATE.

As was Croyle that night.

And Croyle is proving me right once again this preseason.

He's ALWAYS had talent and the ability to flat hum it.

So far your QB evaluation skills have been off....

RedThat 09-01-2009 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6024341)
Kansas City fans are overly obsessed with offensive lines.

Count me in as one of those fans. I think its the most important position on a football team.

I believe the game is won between the trenches. Hey if your team can't block what good will they be? If we had a good offensive line Cassel probably wouldn't have been injured by now.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-01-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6024314)

Oooh, it's Matt Damon "Lion Face"!

Mecca 09-01-2009 09:57 PM

People act like you need 5 HOF lineman to get it done around here. Or that you need to spend all of these high picks..

That is not how good teams build lines.

Hammock Parties 09-01-2009 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6024350)
So far your QB evaluation skills have been off....

Um, in what way?

I hated Thigpen from the beginning.

Croyle can play. So can Cassel.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-01-2009 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6024345)
Uh, the column was ACCURATE.

As was Croyle that night.

And Croyle is proving me right once again this preseason.

He's ALWAYS had talent and the ability to flat hum it.

You are FAIL.

Here you had this nice, Epic Win going, and you just flushed it right down the Herm with this post!

WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM SON?!?!? LMAO

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-01-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6024368)
People act like you need 5 HOF lineman to get it done around here. Or that you need to spend all of these high picks..

That is not how good teams build lines.

You need the awesome QB first. If you have that, you don't need world-beaters up and down the front.

Though it is a NICE luxury to have.

RedThat 09-01-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6024368)
People act like you need 5 HOF lineman to get it done around here. Or that you need to spend all of these high picks..

That is not how good teams build lines.

you don't necessarily need 5 HOF lineman, it helps if you have a couple of probowlers there, and if the rest of the guys are solid your team will be in good shape. But more importantly, what matters most is that you have 5 guys that play well together as a unit.

Hammock Parties 09-01-2009 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6024373)
You are FAIL.

Here you had this nice, Epic Win going, and you just flushed it right down the Herm with this post!

WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM SON?!?!? LMAO

Bullshit.

Croyle is a god damn good NFL quarterback.

If he could stay healthy he'd be a top 15 quarterback, easy.

Hammock Parties 09-01-2009 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6024377)
you don't necessarily need 5 HOF lineman, it helps if you have a couple of probowlers there, and if the rest of the guys are solid your team will be in good shape. But more importantly, what matters most is that you have 5 guys that play well together as a unit.

EUGENE MONROE!

Mecca 09-01-2009 10:04 PM

Everyone should run through the best teams in the league and tell me how many high draft picks they used...several of them the answer is 0.

Titty Meat 09-01-2009 10:05 PM

"Just call my name and I'll be there"- Mike Brown

Titty Meat 09-01-2009 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6024380)
Bullshit.

Croyle is a god damn good NFL quarterback.

If he could stay healthy he'd be a top 15 quarterback, easy.

0 wins as an NFL Starter.

Hammock Parties 09-01-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6024389)
0 wins as an NFL Starter.

Just watch the hick sling it.

Tells you all you need to know.

Thigpen is the exact opposite.

chiefs1111 09-01-2009 10:07 PM

i havent read through the entire thread but i really hope nobody is still trying to defend Pollard

RedThat 09-01-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6024376)
You need the awesome QB first. If you have that, you don't need world-beaters up and down the front.

Though it is a NICE luxury to have.

Id preferably rather have the line first then the QB.

Mainly because I don't want my quarterback getting killed everytime he stepsback to throw the football. I think its one of if not the worst thing when your QB has potential and your line sucks.

Your QB needs the time to deliver the ball, if the line sucks and he can't do that, then chances are your not putting your quarterback in position to succeed or develop confidence down the road. And its happened a lot of times in the NFL. Ive seen QB's with great potential and their talent was wasted because the line sucked.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-01-2009 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6024380)
Bullshit.

Croyle is a god damn good NFL quarterback.

If he could stay healthy he'd be a top 15 quarterback, easy.


And Devard Darling rules, and LJ's going back to the Pro Bowl, and...

Hammock Parties 09-01-2009 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6024396)
Id preferably rather have the line first then the QB.

If only the Steelers had fixed their line before drafting Roethlisberger.

They might have had a chance at a Super Bowl.

Hammock Parties 09-01-2009 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6024399)
And Devard Darling rules, and LJ's going back to the Pro Bowl, and...

You will NOT get off topic.

RedThat 09-01-2009 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6024387)
"Just call my name and I'll be there"- Mike Brown

Sing it to me Tito, sing it!!!

RedThat 09-01-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6024400)
If only the Steelers had fixed their line before drafting Roethlisberger.

They might have had a chance at a Super Bowl.


The Steelers had a pretty good line when they drafted Roethlisberger.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-01-2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6024396)
Id preferably rather have the line first then the QB.

Mainly because I don't want my quarterback getting killed everytime he stepsback to throw the football. I think its one of if not the worst thing when your QB has potential and your line sucks.

Your QB needs the time to deliver the ball, if the line sucks and he can't do that, then chances are your not putting your quarterback in position to succeed or develop confidence down the road. And its happened a lot of times in the NFL. Ive seen QB's with great potential and their talent was wasted because the line sucked.

Using our current line as an example across the board is not accurate to the league as a whole; they are terrible.

Guys that can execute and handle their assignments are enough. And an above average QB will make the chicken salad more often than not.

Hammock Parties 09-01-2009 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6023937)

Quoted for truth and righteousness.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-01-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6024401)
You will NOT get off topic.

What the **** is off-topic? You're making a PREDICTION, NOT an assessment.

Just like the two guys I just mentioned. PREDICTIONS.

Titty Meat 09-01-2009 10:15 PM

Claythan post some GIFS of making plays so Raised On Riots will shutup

RedThat 09-01-2009 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6024415)
Using our current line as an example across the board is not accurate to the league as a whole; they are terrible.

Guys that can execute and handle their assignments are enough. And an above average QB will make the chicken salad more often than not.

The line definately needs improvement. Goff, Niswanger, and Richardson aren't good enough to do the job imo.

We see guys getting blown up. It's hard to watch. Im honestly concerned about Cassel this year, although I do feel he can do the job, I expect him to get his lumps.

Mr. Flopnuts 09-01-2009 10:26 PM

Pollard is a liability. That much can't be denied at this point.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-01-2009 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6024454)
Pollard is a liability. That much can't be denied at this point.

I've said as much already. Now if I could just get it to sink in to Billay's thick, ****ing head, maybe he'd stop being a dick.

Titty Meat 09-01-2009 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6024479)
I've said as much already. Now if I could just get it to sink in to Billay's thick, ****ing head, maybe he'd stop being a dick.

*hugs*

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-01-2009 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6024484)
*hugs*

LMAO Much better.

Hammock Parties 09-02-2009 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6023937)

One more time. SPREAD THE WORD!

Pasta Little Brioni 09-02-2009 08:06 AM

That is pure garbage. Haley's head probably exploded seeing those plays.

Chiefnj2 09-02-2009 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6024454)
Pollard is a liability. That much can't be denied at this point.

Maybe we can trade him to the Lions for a 7th rounder.

booger 09-02-2009 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6025178)
Maybe we can trade him to the Lions for a 7th rounder.

The Lions and Browns are looking for some safety help. Expect them to claim one this week.

via Mike Lombardi NFP

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...Post-9802.html
scroll down to
#8 on THINGS I HEARD AROUND THE NFL LAST WEEK...

booger 09-02-2009 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6024195)
Pollard should be playing McGraw's role.

And if you guys watched the whole game, DaJuan Morgan had a very nice second half. He came down in the box and did what safeties are supposed to do.

Agree on Morgan. Looks like he is finally looking like he gets what to do out there. Still long ways to go for him IMO. But now i hope they don't cut him.

On Pollard, i agree on that too. I don't think they keep 5 S's and i'm not sure brown can play FS anymore. Morgan has the speed but should probably stay at SS. So they don't have a backup to Page except McGraw and there's not much faith in him as a FS either. But it looks like he is getting a long look this week.

If Donald Washington struggles any on the CB i would like to see him at FS. Damn good athlete and explosive too with his vertical and long jump #'s.

Have to see how Carr does as he could move to FS as well with Leggett playing so well. I'd like to see him stay at CB though unless he shows he can't handle it.

The cards did move Antrell Rolle to FS from CB. He was getting burnt pretty bad though.

Easy 6 09-04-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6023937)


I still cant fully comprehend this marvelous display of buffoonery, if the Stooges played football, this is what it would look like.

He's somehow worse now than EVER.

Hammock Parties 09-05-2009 05:02 PM

VICTORY IS MINE

http://www.frieze.com/images/middle/rocky_slide.jpg

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-05-2009 05:03 PM

LMAO Ass.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-05-2009 05:04 PM

Why is Thigshit still on this team?

Farzin 08-07-2010 10:10 PM

Did a google search on Bernard Pollard, looking for his blocked punt vs SD and saw this... heh..

blaise 08-07-2010 10:13 PM

I listen to Houston sports radio quite a bit. The comment most made by the media down there is that Pollard never puts on any clothes in the locker room. Like, never. He just does all the interviews nude.

LaChapelle 08-07-2010 10:55 PM

BP
oil slick in the gulfcoast
Nick Athan is on it

-King- 08-07-2010 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Farzin (Post 6922903)
Did a google search on Bernard Pollard, looking for his blocked punt vs SD and saw this... heh..

If there's a picture there...it doesn't show up.

Quesadilla Joe 08-07-2010 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Farzin (Post 6922903)
Did a google search on Bernard Pollard, looking for his blocked punt vs SD and saw this... heh..

When I googled Bernard Pollard this is what came up.

Bernard Pollard Accuses Chiefs of Trying To Have Him Blackballed

Pollard is claiming that the Chiefs tried to blackball him from signing with any other NFL team.

"I'm not going to sit here and lie to you," he said, "I don't know why I was cut. I can't do anything but assume. I know what was said about me. The things they said about me weren't right and they know they weren't right."

Pollard went into more detail on the things he claims someone from the Chiefs said about him after he was released.

"I don't know who said them. The one thing that disappointed me - I'm not going to go into everything that was said because there were a lot of things that were said but it hurt me - it said I was argumentative and disrespectful to my teammates."

Pollard refutes the claims that he was bad to have in the locker room and goes on to say that had Herm Edwards not called around the league on his behalf, Pollard might not be playing right now.

He says he was unaware of any personality conflict between him and the new front office staff of the Chiefs. Pollard was also unable to pinpoint how he seemed to alienate the coaching staff, especially Todd Haley who Pollard accused of excessive cursing and showing signs of disrespect during practices.

Wildly spoken about was Pollard's deficiency with missing tackles while trying to go for the big play. Fans erroneously blamed him for missing more tackles then he made and trying, too hard, to live up to his nickname of "Bone-crusher".

But it made no sense for a young safety with as much talent and upside as Pollard has, to be cut -- even with the depth the Chiefs had at safety. And there's definitely a problem if the Chiefs did somehow try to keep Pollard from being able to hook up with another team somewhere down the line.

It's too early to tell if the 24-year-old Pollard will live up to his second-round draft status. But he's sure found new life in Houston. His 42 tackles is already good for third place on the Texans, even after missing the first three games of the season. He also picked off Peyton Manning twice last Sunday and had a season-high 12 tackles.

On Sunday, Kent Babb of the Kansas City Star published a statement on Twitter confirming that Pollard was a "bad, bad influence" in the locker room. But he also said he was a much better player than current Chiefs safety Mike Brown.

Name calling and finger-pointing aside, it looks as if the Chiefs loss of Pollard is Houston's gain. And the Kansas City secondary is truly the group that suffers the most from this debacle -- unless you consider their fans.

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/11/10/b...m-blackballed/

Some shady stuff is going on down at 1 Arrowhead Drive.

Hammock Parties 08-07-2010 11:41 PM

When I googled Bernard Pollard this is what came up:

http://www.nancarrow-webdesk.com/war...mg.50353_t.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...NHfqO/610x.jpg

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/782...16F959F7243E3E

http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/776...5BEFE4E0ED7581

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/773...1F70CAB75BD664

http://www.nancarrow-webdesk.com/war...mg.50600_t.jpg

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:3...-Poo-0.jpg&t=1

Slainte 08-08-2010 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6922989)
Pollard is claiming that the Chiefs tried to blackball him from signing with any other NFL team.

"I'm not going to sit here and lie to you," he said, "I don't know why I was cut.

/stop read

crazycoffey 08-08-2010 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6922989)
When I googled Bernard Pollard

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Originally Posted by Slainte (Post 6923008)
/stop read


FYP


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