He will run out of money and get the Randy treatment when he comes back. Dana always forgives his poster boys.

Yep, Cro-Cop has left the UFC twice in two years. Rampage is a great draw, they'll work it out.

Tito

...is back in the UFC.

Yeah, and Dana openly enjoyed Tito's beatings at the hands of Chuck. In the end, it doesn't matter... because people will still pay to watch him fight.

That's right, end of the day the dollar talks loudest.

my point

Lesnar is the new heavyweight standard, true UFC heavyweights now have to be able to size up in that class, at some point, undersized guys cant usually match up...the skills are still raw, but its very obvious that this isnt some passing phase for Brock, he looks clearly more skilled in every contest.

He hasnt just won, he's Dominated.

He'll go after a suddenly downed opponent, like he's tackling a sliding running back...leaning it all into it, just to make the guy take an overall bodyblow...that mean spirit isnt an act.

Does anyone know who this ghost is thats fighting Lesnar next? he's supposedly even bigger than Brock, needing the same kind of custom made gloves & has an MBA or something, so he's no dummy.

Shane Carwin is a beast in his own right. 11-0 with no one lasting longer than 2 minutes. 6'4 around 260. It will be a very good test.

Thanks, i recall seeing a short clip or two of him recently, but havent seen in action.

The 'Bully' needs another Big Boy adversary at school.

Looking forward to it.

He is also a former NCAA wrestling champion, so it will be interesting to see whose cuisine reigns supreme.

Hey, did you see Belfort vs. Franklin?

Ahh, haisan...so he will go with the bottled squid fart & technical skill technique?

How will Iron Skill Morimoto counter?

Lesnar's just such a freak... it's gonna be hard to find a guy who can beat him. IMO, it's gonna have to be a big dude with killer striking ability, because I don't know that I've seen a fighter who can match his size and wrestling. (and the two go hand in hand)

Edit : And I've never seen a man close to that big with great (hell, even good) BJJ

Yep. It was probably the saddest thing ever watching CroCop quit. He is finished.

i called it in this very thread:D

belfort is back to form, looking good. i have always been a belfort fan so i'm glad

He wasn't exactly fighting well before that. He got by Al Turk with an eye poke, he just doesn't seem to have the desire anymore. Maybe he fought in too many wars in Japan. I hope he retires instead of going all Don Frye.

He's a head case though, the test will be four fights from now if he's still training.

Sadly this world won't ever see a Brock/Fedor match. :(

fedor recently said he thinks it will happen

he HAS been a head case, why? oh yeah his sister got kidnapped and killed because he didnt/couldnt pay the ransom. that would probably **** upmost people's mind.

Maybe he was a little too dependent on the juice. He hasn't even looked in shape since fighting in the UFC.

I think that guy Brett Rogers "Grim Reaper", could be a good fight with Lesnar.

Cooler heads did not prevail in the latest Rampage-White chapter

You might think that in a time where everybody has their own Web site, blog and Twitter account, communication between two individuals would be easier. You'd be very, very wrong. If you need proof, just look at the "Rampage" Jackson-Dana White situation. They're two men with a wealth of options for instant communication at their fingertips, yet they still find themselves in a war of words more suited to a junior high school homeroom than a professional sports organization.

It started when Jackson landed a role as B.A. Baracus (you know, the Mr. T character) in the upcoming A-Team movie, requiring him to postpone his grudge match with fellow former champ Rashad Evans. Since the UFC had already filmed an entire season of The Ultimate Fighter to help promote the bout, and since nothing makes White go from zero to livid faster than his fighters leaving the cage for non-pugilistic pursuits, the UFC president did what he always does -- criticize.

White told anyone who would listen that Jackson was a fool for stepping away from guaranteed money in the Octagon for the illusory promise of an acting career. He said that there was simply no way uttering catchphrases while draped in gold chains would make Jackson a Hollywood star. And he's right. If the acting chops Jackson displayed in Midnight Meat Train are any indication, the guy is not going to become the next Laurence Fishburne.

But as is often the case when two people talk past each other, it wasn't just what White said as much as how he said it. He's never been one to parse his words carefully, and when he painted a picture of Jackson as an ignorant jock walking away from the only thing he can do well for paydays that will never materialize, it understandably rubbed Jackson the wrong way. And, since vowing to quit fighting altogether was as easy as posting a sprawling manifesto to his personal Web site, Jackson went ahead and called it quits earlier this week.

Ever write one of those emails where you later wished you'd clicked 'save' instead of 'send'? Then you know what "Rampage" is going through.

Or maybe it hasn't hit him yet. Maybe, with the promise of The A-Team just in front of him, he still believes that his future is in acting. It isn't. Jackson will be back in the cage, probably sooner rather than later. Partly it will be because the UFC doesn't let go that easily once it has its teeth sunk into a money-making draw. Just ask Randy Couture.

But even without the UFC exercising its legal options, Jackson is going to want to fight again. He's going to miss the reliable paychecks from the UFC, and he might even discover that he misses the feeling of stepping into an arena full of screaming fans. Long days in the gym, well, he's probably not the type of guy to ever miss that.

Before Jackson does or says anything he can't take back, he might want to look at the state of Roger Huerta's career. Though not nearly as high-profile a fighter as Jackson, Huerta also wanted to leave fighting for acting. He also got a fairly gimmicky role in a fairly gimmicky action movie. He heard a lot of big promises from Hollywood types and decided he could make more money without putting his body through habitual torture. But now that his movie is done Huerta seems to have discovered that it wasn't a path to instant stardom after all. Now he wants back in the UFC, and after two straight losses his negotiating position isn't what it once was.

Jackson might want to consider that little cautionary tale before he posts any more updates on his website. There's a reason so few pro athletes make successful, prolonged forays into acting, and it isn't a lack of trying.

He might not be ready just yet, but before long he's going to need to sit down with White and talk this out. And for his part, White needs to learn not to badmouth his own fighters, even if they happen to be on his bad side at the moment. In other words, both men need to start thinking before they speak, regardless of the medium they speak in.

When you get a couple of emotionally-driven guys in a dispute, more outlets for communication only mean more chances for them to say something they don't really mean. Or maybe something they do mean, at least for the moment, but definitely shouldn't say. Modern communication technology makes it easy to say something you'll regret, but it's still just as difficult as ever to say you're sorry.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...rampage-white/

That would be a huge draw indeed, with Fedor being grounded & pounded out like all of the rest...from seeing his Pride reruns, he simply cannot physically match up IMO.

I think the best opponent right now for Lesnar, is Anderson Silva...too bad they couldnt break the rules just once, that would be Biblical...could Lesnars sheer, brute force bad intentions...overcome Silvas rickdickulous range of strikes & far, far better than the eye can gauge strength...knocking Forrest out with what looked to be a feinting, defensive jab?

ROFL

Okee.

We'll see.

Oh it would happen if the UFC/M1 Global would come to agreements on the whole co-promte thing. But Dana White is going to stand his ground which he should. UFC doesn't have any problem with drawing viewers, he's made the entire sport mainstream and what it is today. Strikeforce is around because of the way UFC brought the sport into the light. There wouldn't be other fight leagues around if it werent for UFC making the sport become more popular.

Only way it would happen is if one of the fighters gets out of their contract. Brock is the UFCs highest paid fighter IIRC. I could be wrong on that. But he's making bank, so I doubt he wants to do that. UFC is the NFL of MMA anyways. Don't know why someone would leave unless it was all about $$$. But Dana offered Fedor the ****in world almost to come fight in the UFC and wouldnt do it because.....the co-promote and disagreements both parties had.

So they would fight if they co-promote.

Thing is though.....they won't come to agreement to co-promote. And Fedor is partial owner of M1.

Therefore, we won't see the fight.

Kimbo fights tonight. Just a reminder.

Well I wouldnt necessarily say never about this fight. My fear though is that if it does ever happen, it will be when Fedor is no longer in his prime and is on the downside of his career. So at that point it probably wouldn't be a fair fight anyways. However, I'll have my fingers crossed that it happens sometime sooner rather than later. How many fights did Fedor sign on for with Strikeforce anyways?

sorry scott but ROFL

Big Country is no joke, Rashad may think he's uncoachable but he's tough. Kimbo may win it though because Dana said he stays in the UFC no matter what happens on TUF.

No, Kimbo stays in it because $$$$

Dana can talk shit all he wants, but $$$$ will shut him the **** up. Kimbo is a draw whether people like it or not. If he thinks Kimbo is the laughing stock on MMA, but will make millions, White will eat his own words, and wash them down with dollar bills.

What's ridiculous is that Fat Country thinks he's some kind of star. It isn't Kimbo with the prima donna attitude. Kimbo's working hard and following instructions.

Yea. As much as I have seen Nelson fight, which is quite a bit on like HDnet Tv, I think Kimbo's gonna kick his ass. But who knows. Neslon is a pretty tough guy. The one thing he's definitely got going for him vs. Kimbo is his experience. Nelsons been around for a while and been pretty decent at it.

LMAO i laughed my ass off when he thought HE was the BIG announcment

lol you think Fedor can't match up physically, but you think a 185 pound Silva can match up :spock:

That said. Big Country is the best fighter on the show.

I'm a big Kimbo fan, but Roy Nelson probably is a little too game for him. If Kimbo can last the fight and make it competitive, he will have legitimized himself as a worthy heavyweight opponent in my book. I watched Roy Nelson fight in the IFL for a long time, and he is every bit as good as any heavyweight in the UFC not named Brock Lesnar.
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I kind of doubt that.

On paper he is. But of course, thats why they fight. Who on the show would you put ahead of him?

I hope they can work it out & we finally find out.

'til then, I Win!1

:)

Meanwhile, hoping tonights a good one...not Kimbo & Country, to paraphrase TrickyNicky, 'breathing on one another'.

yeah i sure hope tonight is a slobberknocker

Trust me...I used to drive fighters around for the old IFL shows...Roy Nelson is far and away the best. You could argue a guy like Wes Sims has more overall skill...but I would disagree.

Nelson is very legit.
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I think this bloke is in trouble with Wes Shivers...he's right out of central casting, forthright, straightforward & country as corn...'its all i've got'.

...uh yeah, apparently Wes has the cardio of Charles Durning.

Dont know if that fight shoulda been called, Roy Nelson was on top and Kimbo couldn't move and probably got hit in the head about 20-30 times repeatedly until tim ran out in 1st round.

And Dana White had to introduce the fight, something he hadn't done for the previous 2 IIRC. Knew people are watching, wanted face time.

"How do you get the moon off of you?"
-Quentin Jackson-

That was amusing how they just made fun of Roy Nelson.

The UFC just signed Seth Petruzelli so I'm assuming Dana wants him to rematch Kimbo on the Season Finale.

The fight went about like I expected...can't believe the ref didn't stop it at the end of Round 1, that was an easy stoppage. Not surprised though, they were going to give Kimbo EVERY chance possible to win that fight.

Doesn't matter, Kimbo will continue on in the UFC...Dana isn't stupid, he knows the guy draws in fans and will hope to cultivate him. He will be a UFC mainstay IMO.

It probably shouldn't have... but it wouldn't have changed anything. Nelson would have just tapped Kimbo on the head for the rest of the round, and won a decision.

Yeah, they're already promoting his possible return. They'll ride that horse till it drops.

That sounds about right.

Jerm you're a ****ing moron. The hits were the equivalent of your pussy son's love taps. I bet the majority of chiefs planet who can still find their dick beat it harder than kimbo got his hard tapped. Get a life idiot dick weed

In the end, it doesn't matter. He was helpless... and there was zero chance of him changing position or defending himself.

Granted, it makes for a shitty fight... but that's how it is. Nelson beat him by controlling him.

LOL ummmm ok.

They were a little more than "love taps"....were they doing a ton of damage? No but that's not the rule.

You have to intelligently defend yourself from strikes...no way was Kimbo doing that. It should've been stopped.

Just goes to show what you know, ****ing moron.

By "possible", I meant 100% certain.

Even if this is his last fight on TUF...no way he leaves the UFC.

It wouldn't shock me at all if he already isn't signed to a UFC contract and they just put him on the show so Dana doesn't look like a hypocrite.

It's tough when you have a 40 pound disadvantage. Kimbo is looked at as a really big guy, but at his heaviest, he is 230.

No ground game will always be an issue, but he always has a punchers chance. I would have liked to see some more standup between the two.
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They should have stopped it....but it still doesn't discount the fact that (1) Kimbo was the better fighter on his feet. And (2) The damage inflicted to Kimbo was nonexistent.

Smart fight by Roy...
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Agreed, dude isn't dumb...he knew standing with Kimbo was a dangerous proposition, which it is.

He took the fight where he had the clear advantage and it paid off.

TKO by beer gut.

Welcome to the exciting world of Lay and Pray.

You know that's pretty much the same style of fighting as Brock Lesnar.

Except when Lesnar hits you......your face turns to meatloaf. See Mir's face after UFC 100

Yeah, Lesnar's kind of in his own weight class. He's HUGE, but he's also cut. Gonna be tough to find a guy who can challenge him... but I'm ready to see it. He's obnoxious. (and he has a penis sword tattoo)

PENIS SWORD!

The 2 guys dry humping fighting style is something that really turns me off to MMA.

They say wrestling is probably the most important skill for an MMA fighter to have, and the reasons are obvious. (Defend take-downs from your opponent, take them down, and control them on the ground.)

That said, the ground game can be pretty damned entertaining if it's a good BJJ guy. (BJ Penn, Demian Mia, Nate Diaz, etc.)

I enjoy a slick submission as much as a nasty KO.

I do like seeing a guy who starts with a good wrestling base.. and developes his other skills. Gray Maynard, for example. That guy's improved by leaps and bounds since he was on TUF.

Gray is getting better. Once he develops the killer instinct and starts finishing fights he will definitely be a force.

Dana already said he'd fight in the UFC, Dana's a dick but he isn't stupid.

He's going to be a contender at 155 for some time, he's going to get the next shot after Diego, I'd bet.

Diego's a badass, but for some reason... I just can't stand that guy.

Can't wait to see B.J. humble him like he did KenFlo.

Speaking of, season 5 with Gray was the best season of TUF. It's too bad the finale ended the way it did.

Hell yes.

I like Kenny, though. That was one of those fights where I hated to see either fighter lose.

I'd enjoy seeing BJ embarrass Sanchez.

Knocking himself out on a slam?

Manny ended up shredding his shoulder at the beginning of the 2nd round, so Nate Diaz won by TKO. It was a decent fight up to that point.

Damn... what fight am I thinking of?

Edit: Google says it was Maynard vs. Emerson.... Sounds right.