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lol @ nooo don't trade Bowe. I'm not even bashing Bowe because of his drops but the fact is he's a lazy player and it's obvious this regime doesn't like him.
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If we traded a third for a 30 year old injury problem and traded Bowe for a 2nd, I would have no faith for this front office to be anything more than reeruned from that point forward. ... The only reason I would trade for Boldin is if we cant re-sign Chambers and we need a legitimate receiving option opposite Bowe. If we cant re-sign Chambers because he wants to go to a contender, we need to give Cassel a real receiving threat opposite Bowe and at that point a third for Boldin wouldnt be terrible, but I think we could do better. I think its kinda funny that in the last thread I can remember about Boldin, just about everyone wanted him for a 2nd and I went fully against the grain and said I wouldnt give up more than a 4th and was railed for it and now I see some of the exact reasons I gave for my reasoning popping up here. Good to know some are listening. |
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There is no riff between the two of them. This is from the past...
Anquan Boldin: 'I wouldn't mind playing for Chiefs' Todd Haley' by Joel Thorman on Apr 16, 2009 3:28 PM CDT 57 comments via urbansportstalk.files.wordpress.com We've received some news via 610 Sports that multiple players on the Kansas City Chiefs are not fans of new coach Todd Haley. Apparently his former players with the Arizona Cardinals don't feel the same way. Anquan Boldin appearing on the Michael Irvin show (via Dallas Morning News): Boldin, who said he just has a player-coach relationship with former Cardinals coordinator Todd Haley, said he wouldn't mind playing for him in Kansas City. Of course Boldin says this the same day I say there is no chance the Chiefs give up the reported asking price, 1st and 3rd round pick, for the Cardinals receiver. Boldin also said he wouldn't mind playing in the NFC East either. I wouldn't read too much into this. Boldin likely won't be coming here - it takes two to tango and it would be very out of character for GM Scott Pioli to give up the Chiefs' first three picks in the 2009 NFL Draft. What's intriguing about this is that we have just heard that multiple players in Kansas City reportedly do not like new coach Todd Haley. 610 Sports reports that Will Franklin was a "marked man" by Haley which prompted his request for his release. Boldin and Haley had an on-camera tiff during the playoffs last year. Both players came out of the situation saying it was a no big deal. But that, combined with the reports from 610 Sports that Haley gets in fights with players a lot, makes more than a few people nervous that the new coach is going about business the wrong way in Kansas City. Not that we needed the Boldin-to-KC rumor mill fodder but it makes for an interesting offseason. |
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Yes yes. And more yes. Boldin,Bowe,Chambers,and Charles. Plenty of tools for Weis and Cassel.
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You only hold a grudge if you're the stupid type of bidge that picks it up to begin with... |
Baltimore should be all over this. They should be in full on win now mode to try and get another championship before Ed Reed and Ray Lewis are gone, once they are, the window is closed for a few years.
If I were them, I would offer Chambers a big contract and trade for Boldin. That would give them a lethal receiving corps and would complement their running game very well. |
Boldin is going to command at least 5 year, 55 million dollar deal with 25 million guaranteed. He's 29. He's hurt, a lot. He's a physical receiver who's body may not hold up until he's 34.
There's no way I'm trading for him and then giving him a big contract. He's a stud player no doubt, but this team needs to avoid acquiring a soon to be 30 year old player. There are options in the draft like Tate, Gilyard, Shipley that should be explored. Boldin is nice for a team on the verge, but he should not fit here. |
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What makes you think he will demand that type of guaranteed coin? Larry Fitzgerald signed for 4/40 in 2008, I cant see Boldin being worth more than that to any team. |
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The only reason he wanted traded in the first place is because of Fitzgeralds contract.
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I didn't consider the huge contract he'll want. I think I'll pass now.
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Hell yes, a 3rd rounder for Boldin should be a no brainer. Come on, he's younger than:
chambers ochocinco wayne houshmanzadeh coles santana moss randy moss owens ward driver All of which were extremely productive at Boldin's age and for year(s) after. a year older than: roddy white wes welker andre johnson Who are still considered in the prime of their career. The assumption we'd be buying a broken down car is ridiculous. We would be getting a proven, elite, veteran wide reciever to bring some leadership and playmaking to our offense at a position we obviously need. Any 3rd rounder is a gamble - this is not. We may not be 'on the verge', but if we're doing this right - we should be a playoff caliber team in 2012 when Boldin would still be a very viable #1 WR. I would take him over any wr past the 1st round in this year's draft. |
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The guy is a stud, but he's only played a full schedule 2 years he's been in the league. He's a physical receiver who takes a lot of hits. He's not a burner or a shifty guy like the other receivers you list. His body is not going to hold up forever with the way he plays. The assumption that we are going to get a ton of miledge out of him is ridiculous. This Chiefs team should not be giving ANYONE their third contract unless it's a minimum deal. I don't care who he's younger than, I wouldn't give any of those guys any substancial contract either besides Reggie Wayne. |
Moves like this are moves you make if your Super Bowl bound.
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Incidentally, I would happily give contracts to Roddy or Andre. Wide recievers through the draft have been proven to take around 3 years to develop. Hypothetically, that would mean that if we looked to use that 3rd on a wr - Cassel is 30 and Charles is 26 before we even have a legitimate recieving core. We can greatly shorten the time it takes to become a contender by getting a good, prime of his career wr for a 3rd rounder? I'll take that every time. |
I like how people look at contracts for now and don't give a shit how bad they will **** you over in a few years ROFL
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30 for a WR isn't THAT old... they usually don't start to slow down until they turn about 33-34. It's probably worth it, it's only a 3rd...
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i dont think hes worth it at this point In his career and with his injury issues Posted via Mobile Device |
its also funny that everyone assumes a 3rd alone will get it done. The OP says a third AND A PLAYER were offered and THAT deal MAY be enough to get it done
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30 isn't old for a WR like Boldin because his game isn't speed, he's never really been fast.
He's worth more than a 3rd, he's a legit 1, basically if Bowe became everything he could be he'd be Boldin to act like drafting someone like Mardy Gilyard is a better option is pretty naive. |
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This is a pretty horrid WR draft on top of that, but I disagree with his style of play shortening his career.
His game not being speed should help him. |
No to Boldin. He's declined the last two seasons. If he came cheap then yes, take a shot buyt he won't come cheap so I say no.
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I didn't hear many of you complaining when we traded a 3rd for Willie Roaf. He was already beyond his prime when we made the trade, but was well worth the trade for his service to KC. Boldin would provide a sililar service in adding a legitimate playmaker at WR to force opponents to respect the pass. When they do, JC will have a field day and shred opposing defenses with the run.
We acquired a 2nd for Gonzo, what's wrong with giving up less for a younger Boldin? |
I really feel great giving a WR on the downhill slope of his prime a contract more than twice as bit as what he was making when he was less injury prone and making big plays.
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They gave him virtually peanuts of a contract. That's a really ****ing stupid comparison. |
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(IF the bosses are interested) |
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