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mikeyis4dcats. 03-03-2010 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6571655)
Yeah, I agree with that too. Definitely not something I'd consume more than once every month or two.

did myou even read the article? At the end it says it's nothing to make you avoid it.

Otter 03-03-2010 08:02 AM

Not as much as salmon and tuna but yes, I enjoy the occasional bite of catfish.

mikeyis4dcats. 03-03-2010 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 6572099)
Toxin levels, like mercury.
All fish have some level of toxins in the meat but catfish typically have higher levels because they hang out on the bottom with the sediment and you’re not supposed to eat too much of it.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ll chow on some fried catfish but it shouldn’t necessarily be an every day meal.

according to the American Heart Association, Catfish is lower in mercury content than canned tuna, halibut, or cod. And on par with most other seafood and fish.

http://www.americanheart.org/present...tifier=3013797

Radar Chief 03-03-2010 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 6572120)
according to the American Heart Association, Catfish is lower in mercury content than canned tuna, halibut, or cod. And on par with most other seafood and fish.

http://www.americanheart.org/present...tifier=3013797

Interesting that they don’t specify what type of catfish.

http://www.kdheks.gov/news/web_archi.../01042010a.htm

Tissue samples currently are taken from bottom-feeding fish and from predatory fish, where available. Mercury tends to accumulate in predatory fish to a greater extent than in bottom-feeding fish. Earlier fish tissue contaminant monitoring efforts had focused on bottom-feeding fish owing to the presence of pesticides and other organic chemicals (DDT, dieldrin, chlordane, PCBs, etc.). Average mercury concentrations in Kansas fishes remain lower than nationwide averages. KDHE protocol requires use of the average tissue mercury level when conducting water body specific risk assessments.

Channel cats, white and yellow cats, bull head cats can be predatory but are mostly scavengers. Blues are more of a predator but flat heads in particular are pure predator, if you’re fishing with anything dead you’re not fishing for flat heads.
I think it’s assumable they’re talking about channel cats as that’s what most farm raised catfish that are served in restaurants are.

Saulbadguy 03-03-2010 08:46 AM

My wife and I go fishing in the summer from time to time, and anytime I catch a catfish (all I really fish for, too lazy to do anything else), I reel it in, grab it and point it towards here and say "IT'S A TRAP" in my best Admiral Ackbar voice.

mikeyis4dcats. 03-03-2010 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 6572176)
Interesting that they don’t specify what type of catfish.

http://www.kdheks.gov/news/web_archi.../01042010a.htm

Tissue samples currently are taken from bottom-feeding fish and from predatory fish, where available. Mercury tends to accumulate in predatory fish to a greater extent than in bottom-feeding fish. Earlier fish tissue contaminant monitoring efforts had focused on bottom-feeding fish owing to the presence of pesticides and other organic chemicals (DDT, dieldrin, chlordane, PCBs, etc.). Average mercury concentrations in Kansas fishes remain lower than nationwide averages. KDHE protocol requires use of the average tissue mercury level when conducting water body specific risk assessments.

Channel cats, white and yellow cats, bull head cats can be predatory but are mostly scavengers. Blues are more of a predator but flat heads in particular are pure predator, if you’re fishing with anything dead you’re not fishing for flat heads.
I think it’s assumable they’re talking about channel cats as that’s what most farm raised catfish that are served in restaurants are.

Yes, I would guess that is based on farm raised fish for commercial sale.

I would be very hesitant to eat river caught fish in the area more due to ag runoff and PCB than heavy metals. My family grew up in Iowa eating river cat, grandpa was a commercial fisherman on THE river. I haven't eaten catfish not bought in a store or restaurant in probably 15 years or more.

tooge 03-03-2010 08:51 AM

yes. my kids love it too. Fried of course. the crispier the better. nothin like crunchin on the tail. mmmmmmm.

Chief Henry 03-03-2010 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NewPhin (Post 6571443)
Shit yes, I eat it.

hell ya - cat fish too :)

mikeyis4dcats. 03-03-2010 08:55 AM

oh, and walleye > most fish

Red Beans 03-03-2010 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NewPhin (Post 6571543)
I know it. It's a real shame. There's something about the fish houses that goes with teetotaling. Even up here in liberal Northwest Arkansas that is wet, the catfishes houses are all dry.

We heard rumor of one out in the country that was supposedly BYOB. We went to check it out on a Friday night. Being hesitant to just bust up in there with our beer (past experience told us this was a bad idea), we left it in the car and scoped the joint out. Walking in, the cake in the buffet was decorated.... with a bible verse. AT that point, we figured out we'd been misled and we'd found yet another dry catfish house.

I've yet to find a catfish house that serves beer. It's really strange.

Shrimpan's Inn in Pineville MO used to be BYOB. They've since moved to Bella Vista and done away with that rule. Done away with the ambiance too. That place was awesome. Have a great meal overlooking Little Sugar Creek completed with your own cooler stashed right next to your table.

Red Beans 03-03-2010 08:58 AM

If I can catch it and fillet it I'll eat it. Almost everything save Carp and other "sucker" fish. They stink coming out of the water therefore I refuse to eat them.
Goggle Eye (aka Rock Bass) are my favorite. Very white and flakey fillets.

NewChief 03-03-2010 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans (Post 6572224)
Shrimpan's Inn in Pineville MO used to be BYOB. They've since moved to Bella Vista and done away with that rule. Done away with the ambiance too. That place was awesome. Have a great meal overlooking Little Sugar Creek completed with your own cooler stashed right next to your table.

My mother-in-law and all her Bella Vista cronies used to drive up there to Shrimpman's for a treat. BV is like the graveyard for eateries (with the exception being Gusano's), so we'll see if it lasts up there. Retirees don't like to pay for their food.

Red Beans 03-03-2010 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by NewPhin (Post 6572234)
My mother-in-law and all her Bella Vista cronies used to drive up there to Shrimpman's for a treat. BV is like the graveyard for eateries (with the exception being Gusano's), so we'll see if it lasts up there. Retirees don't like to pay for their food.

Yeah, Bella Vista is very limited on restaurants. I've eaten at the Metfield clubhouse before and it's actually reasonably priced food and pretty damn good. Lots of blue hairs though, but hell it's Bella Vista. If you want a great greasy spoon hit up the Pineville Grill on the square there in Pineville. Great B & G. Perfect place to hit up for breakfast before a fishing trip.

NewChief 03-03-2010 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans (Post 6572246)
Yeah, Bella Vista is very limited on restaurants. I've eaten at the Metfield clubhouse before and it's actually reasonably priced food and pretty damn good. Lots of blue hairs though, but hell it's Bella Vista. If you want a great greasy spoon hit up the Pineville Grill on the square there in Pineville. Great B & G. Perfect place to hit up for breakfast before a fishing trip.

My MiL lives on Loch Lomond. I wish the joint there at the Highlands would get a little better. That place could be so cool, but it just doesn't get enough traffic.

Losing the Blackboard (or was it Chalkboard?) Cafe was sad. That place was really good.

Bugeater 03-03-2010 09:10 AM

Holy crap, I never thought I'd see the day where Pineville, MO was mentioned in a thread. I have friends that live just a few miles from there, I didn't even know there was a restaurant anywhere in that town.

Red Beans 03-03-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6572263)
Holy crap, I never thought I'd see the day where Pineville, MO was mentioned in a thread. I have friends that live just a few miles from there, I didn't even know there was a restaurant anywhere in that town.


A good friend of mine owns a cabin on the river there. We've spent the last two winters renovating the place. It used to be his grandparents and we've been going there since we were in high school. It's home to a few of us. Always cold beer and we've got a fleet of canoes down there. We'll be there almost every weekend over the summer.

RJ 03-03-2010 09:15 AM

I loves me some catfish rolled in cornmeal and fried, lemon and hot sauce on the side. Hell yeah.

Demonpenz 03-03-2010 09:16 AM

Not only do I eat catfish, I ain't scared to get it at the Jump Stop convient store outside of springfield missouri. Nothing like eating fried Kitty Fish while gassing up next to Willie the trucker

Demonpenz 03-03-2010 09:23 AM

I bet Mohillbilly grabs 100 pound blue cat picks it up and gives it a ****ing back breaker.

Bugeater 03-03-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans (Post 6572274)
A good friend of mine owns a cabin on the river there. We've spent the last two winters renovating the place. It used to be his grandparents and we've been going there since we were in high school. It's home to a few of us. Always cold beer and we've got a fleet of canoes down there. We'll be there almost every weekend over the summer.

On the Elk River? I've been on many canoe trips down that river back in the day. Did you ever go to the RC car race track off the H highway? I know the guy that owns that place, it was kind of big deal for a while back in the early 90s but he's since shut it down. He had a go kart track there for one year too as well.

NewChief 03-03-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans (Post 6572274)
A good friend of mine owns a cabin on the river there. We've spent the last two winters renovating the place. It used to be his grandparents and we've been going there since we were in high school. It's home to a few of us. Always cold beer and we've got a fleet of canoes down there. We'll be there almost every weekend over the summer.

Spectacular smallmouth fishing in that area. Of course, the aluminum and bikini hatch is a little insane on the Elk during the summer. The Big Sugar is where it's at.

Consistent1 03-03-2010 09:32 AM

I voted yes, but don't like it much unless it is done to perfection. Not a good grilled fish at all to me either. I avoid it overall, but sometimes you can't help it if people serve it.

Red Beans 03-03-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NewPhin (Post 6572311)
Spectacular smallmouth fishing in that area. Of course, the aluminum and bikini hatch is a little insane on the Elk during the summer. The Big Sugar is where it's at.

Too true. Also the lower Elk, below Noel to Cowskin Camp is one serious float. Big water, big fish and in the spring you can get into White Bass there. Also some serious Channel Cat when the water's up a bit. Not many canoers either. I rarely fish from HWY 71 to Shady Beach on the weekends anymore. Big Sugar is good too. we usually do Mac's Big Rock down to my buddy's cabin. Which is right there at HWY 71.

Red Beans 03-03-2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6572309)
On the Elk River? I've been on many canoe trips down that river back in the day. Did you ever go to the RC car race track off the H highway? I know the guy that owns that place, it was kind of big deal for a while back in the early 90s but he's since shut it down. He had a go kart track there for one year too as well.

Oh the Elk, always see the sign for the track but I've never been. Thought long and hard about it after a few 8 hour float trips though:BLVD:

Jenson71 03-03-2010 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6571435)
nope ... can't stand the "lake" flavor of fresh fish.


all the fish i eat have to be that process stuff that doesn't actually taste like fish anymore. :D

If you throw cajun seasoning on it, you'll fall in love with any fish.

Bugeater 03-03-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans (Post 6572348)
Oh the Elk, always see the sign for the track but I've never been. Thought long and hard about it after a few 8 hour float trips though:BLVD:

Like I said, it's long been shut down, but you can still see both of the tracks on Google maps. I'll have to look you up if I make my way down there this summer.

Red Beans 03-03-2010 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6572361)
Like I said, it's long been shut down, but you can still see both of the tracks on Google maps. I'll have to look you up if I make my way down there this summer.

I'll be there, beer in hand.

Over-Head 03-03-2010 03:40 PM

One of the very few things I do miss from my truck driving years on the highway.
A good feed of catfish and hushpuppies, best I can remember was in a lil truck stop in Mississippi on the Alabama line off I-10 :drool:

DumbHillbillies 03-03-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 6571477)
I hold catfish in extremely low esteem.

When I was a young boy, I was friends with this poor kid whose dad was kind of a crazy drunk and lived in a shack out by the river. Once, he took us out on the river in a rowboat, tied a rope around our waists, handed us each a hay hook, and took turns throwing us overboard. The idea was to grope around the underwater river bank until you came to a hole. Then, you jammed your hay hook around inside the hole and yanked on the rope. When the old guy saw the rope yank, he would haul us in ... preferably with a catfish stuck to your hay hook. Ever since then, you couldn't pay me to eat a catfish. No way. In fact, those emotional scars are so deep, I even have a problem with rowboats. I'd just as soon douse a rowboat with gasoline and burn it to ash as look at one.

FAX

ROFL. That's kinda messed up but shouldn't keep you from eating that delicious pig of the sea.

banyon 03-03-2010 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NewPhin (Post 6571454)
Does the Midwest have catfish houses? They're a social institution in the south.

Not in Kansas. Not enough viable fresh water and too cold (i think) for the farms.

I wonder though Newphin, if you've ever eaten at Ron's Catfish Buffet in Jonesboro. I'm not really a big cullinary devotee or anything, but that place is the best. People drive from hours away sometimes to get there. Their cajun breading is my favorite. Best I've ever eaten anywhere.

http://ronscatfish.com/

Iowanian 03-03-2010 04:27 PM

Hell yes I eat catfish...and bass and crappie and bluegill.

I'd wager that most of the catfish you eat at the catfish houses and other restaurants come from fish farms...they're not grubbing sludge off the bottom of a dirty river.

I fish more in ponds than anything and I've pulled 5lb cats from the pond and had them on the fire pit 5 minutes later.

Flatheads eat live bait, and while I don't hit the river as much as I like to, a good white fillet from a flathead is tough to beat.

I know some guys who will run lines in the river, and they'll put the fish in a cattle tank for a couple of days to "flush them" before eating them.

I wish this damn ice would melt....

MOhillbilly 03-03-2010 04:37 PM

few years back. decent fish for that strech of river.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoid=10972899

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-03-2010 04:47 PM

ALL...DAY...LAWNG, N***'A! :D

Mm-Mm GOOD.

max sleeper 03-03-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6571520)
Crappie > all

walleye>crappie>all ;)

Pablo 03-03-2010 05:18 PM

Hell yes. Catfish are delicious.

And fishing for the ma****as is delightful.

Stewie 03-03-2010 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon (Post 6573578)
Not in Kansas. Not enough viable fresh water and too cold (i think) for the farms.

I wonder though Newphin, if you've ever eaten at Ron's Catfish Buffet in Jonesboro. I'm not really a big cullinary devotee or anything, but that place is the best. People drive from hours away sometimes to get there. Their cajun breading is my favorite. Best I've ever eaten anywhere.

http://ronscatfish.com/

There are Jumpin' Catfish restaurants in the KC area. Never been, probably won't go. I've only eaten catfish I've caught.

http://www.jumpincatfish.com/

the Talking Can 03-03-2010 05:36 PM

fried catfish is one of the best things, when it is fresh

if you're ever in memphis go here....it's better than the bbq in memphis, imo...crazy insane good:

http://www.soulfishcafe.com/

mikeyis4dcats. 03-03-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 6573786)
There are Jumpin' Catfish restaurants in the KC area. Never been, probably won't go. I've only eaten catfish I've caught.

http://www.jumpincatfish.com/

never had the catfish there, but I did have frog legs and mountain oysters.

OnTheWarpath15 03-03-2010 05:56 PM

**** yeah, I eat catfish.

The place TTC mentioned is the ****ing nuts, as is just about anywhere in Mississippi.

Extra Point 03-03-2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by max sleeper (Post 6573772)
walleye>crappie>all ;)

Walleye is best, no doubt. Throw in a can of evaporated milk after frying in 2 tbsp of olive oil, throw in a bag of frozen veggie mix, like carrots, broccoli, and cauliflower, crack some pepper and dash some salt in it, let the veggies thaw and cook a bit, and you're done. Just like shore lunch near Minake, ONT.

Crappie is good, if you catch a mess of them enough to fry.

It's all a matter of how you prepare it and cook it. For grilling trout, an old gentleman recommended tabasco in the belly after cleaning, and just grilling it. That's about the best recipe I've found, so far. Catfish and bass are good, cooked in that fashion, too. The simplest things, one can write a book about, or just say it, and be done.

'nuf said.

banyon 03-03-2010 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 6573786)
There are Jumpin' Catfish restaurants in the KC area. Never been, probably won't go. I've only eaten catfish I've caught.

http://www.jumpincatfish.com/

Yeah, I try to avoid Olathe unless I'm absolutely required to be there, so I probably missed that one.

(You know, don't want to run the risk of running into petegz28 frothing at the mouth or anything ;))

Easy 6 03-03-2010 11:23 PM

A life without fried catfish, is no life at all... fillet or on the bone, which i like best, in cornmeal, black pepper & a bit of flour?

Put that with some buttered bread, thickly sliced onion of any kind & some sweet tea?

A Paupers Feast, Worthy of Kings.

Easy 6 03-04-2010 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6572293)
I bet Mohillbilly grabs 100 pound blue cat picks it up and gives it a ****ing back breaker.

:LOL:

RippedmyFlesh 03-04-2010 06:08 AM

she loves it when i...
oh wrong poll

MichaelH 03-04-2010 06:12 AM

My wife is one of those people that loves fish and seafood but won't eat catfish. I think that she thinks they're almost like carp or suckers. I've tried to get her to try my fried catfish nuggets with a mustard dipping sauce but she refuses. To eat their own.

Radar Chief 03-04-2010 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 6573838)
never had the catfish there, but I did have frog legs and mountain oysters.

:Lin:

Radar Chief 03-04-2010 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 6573663)
Hell yes I eat catfish...and bass and crappie and bluegill.

I'd wager that most of the catfish you eat at the catfish houses and other restaurants come from fish farms...they're not grubbing sludge off the bottom of a dirty river.

Yeah, that’s typically my problem with the channel cats and bullheads. You catch them on the most rotten shit you can keep on a hook.

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 6573663)
I know some guys who will run lines in the river, and they'll put the fish in a cattle tank for a couple of days to "flush them" before eating them.

That’s what we’ll do also. Motorcycle Drag Racing buddy and I will run trot lines through spring, in addition to pole fishing for a Friday Night get together, then throw what we catch in a stock tank full of fresh water.
MDRB has a pretty sweet set up with two aerated stock tanks, one for bait and one for what we catch.

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 6573663)
I wish this damn ice would melt....

No shit. This has been a long winter and I’m passed ready for it to be over with.

MOhillbilly 03-04-2010 08:46 AM

some of you guys put way to much work into fishing.

Chiefnj2 03-04-2010 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Extra Point (Post 6573861)
Walleye is best, no doubt. Throw in a can of evaporated milk after frying in 2 tbsp of olive oil, throw in a bag of frozen veggie mix, like carrots, broccoli, and cauliflower, crack some pepper and dash some salt in it, let the veggies thaw and cook a bit, and you're done. Just like shore lunch near Minake, ONT.

Crappie is good, if you catch a mess of them enough to fry.

It's all a matter of how you prepare it and cook it. For grilling trout, an old gentleman recommended tabasco in the belly after cleaning, and just grilling it. That's about the best recipe I've found, so far. Catfish and bass are good, cooked in that fashion, too. The simplest things, one can write a book about, or just say it, and be done.

'nuf said.

Yes. Walleye is by far the best freshwater fish. I'd put crappie and perch 2nd. All others that I can catch - meh. Fish farm catfish and salmon are good too.

Old Dog 03-04-2010 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6571654)
My dad and I had a great crappie fishing hole in Truman Lake. We would just drop our line and get hits every minute or two. Crappie is good eating but it has alot of bones.

How in the world do you clean them? I just filet them and there are no bones left.

Norman Einstein 03-04-2010 12:36 PM

Nope, smells like pussy.

bkkcoh 03-04-2010 01:38 PM

I had some recently that was a Cajun with a jalapeno cream sauce with roasted red potatoes. Absolutely delicious.


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