GoChiefs has IMO become an integral part of Chiefs coverage.

He's the only chiefs related source you're gonna get any semi-objective information and statistical research out of. All these other asshats (Gretz, Baab et. al) have their head stuck so far up Pioli's ass it's not even funny.

You don't have to like his opinions, but he usually does a pretty good job backing them up with solid evidence.

Watch what all the Pioli ballwashers are saying about Cassell this offseason. GoChiefs will be the only one who brings up stuff like his record when failing to get 100 yds rushing compared to other QBs (and similar info.) which is a lot closer to reality then what you'll hear from the rest.

When it comes to the draft GoChiefs will likely be the only writer who actually researches how many of our top players were actually team captains in college (hint hint) and writes an article about it, killing the typical bullshit thrown out by Pioli and his band of cronies.

In short, a lot of people don't like GoChiefs because they can't handle the truth, but some people need to hear the truth and GoChiefs isn't afraid to tell it.

You have to be kidding, goatcheese an intrigal part of Chiefs coverage?

He writes from his Mothers basement in Texas. What first hand information does he garner from there?

I don't care where he writes from. He's become a good writer, he knows more about football than most writers, and he really LOVES this team so he writes with passion and misses absolutely nothing. His articles are more entertaining than any other KC writer. With Whitlock now gone he's the only writer that will talk about stuff the front office doesn't want you to hear about. You guys don't respect him because he's been posting here a long time so he's like a little brother you beat up on, and that's understandable.

You can like what he writes all you want, your belief does not make him a good writer, nor does it make him an accurate writer.

If you are a fan of a team you don't go out of your way to "expose" the dirty laundry. As for what the front office doesn't want you to see, you are going to have to explain that.

The Chiefs are a Fraud is not something that the front office thinks about the team. CW is a hack, nothing more nothing less.

I can see why you would think that.

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This is how I know you're a moron. Gochiefs varies wildly from "this is the greatest team evar", to "this team is a fraud" with regularity. He pimps the worst players on the team, in the past with shit like Devard Darling and Damon Huard. I seriously don't know how you can look at his body of work and even pretend that he knows much about football in general or the Chiefs specifically.

Do you have proof of this or are you just talking out your ass?

You mean the last 3 trips to an EMPTY Arrowhead?

There is a difference when the fans are their in force. Herm took that advantage away from the Chiefs. It is starting to come back.

If I cared enough to go read your WPI articles from the past 5 years I'm sure I could find many examples of it. You have a long, long record of stupid shit all over the internet, I'm sure you know this.

I'm talking about this year.

Not once have I proclaimed the Chiefs to be some awesome team on the rise.

But you did when Herman was in town? He sucked, the team sucked when he was there.

The team has turned the corner from being the bottom dwellers and have started the climb back to respectability, it's a shame that you hate the team so much all you can do is sling shit in every article.

Most fans see vast improvement over the past 4 years, all you see is a continuation of the old style.

Try seeing the accomplishments the Chiefs have made and how it will impact them over the next 2-3 years.

You really need to go back and read some of the things I've written this year. It's not all negative. What it is is realistic.

And 31-0 is not indicative of a climb back to respectability.

I partially agree with you here. But what discredits GoChiefs is his penchant for swinging from one extreme opinion to the total opposite extreme in mere days. He falls in total love with a player, a coach or a Chiefs roster and suddenly he acts like a totally jilted lover.

If there were more than one 31-0 game you might have a point, but there have only been 2 games the Chiefs were not in.

Realistic would be to write of how there were failures not to report that the team was a fraud. I really don't know where your head is most of the time when you write but you could be good if you put your mind to it.

Whitlock was a good writer, but he seems to have had the style that you picked up on. He wrote some non-football articles that were absolutely great, but his penchant was to demean the Chiefs at every turn.

If you are a fan you don't hide the facts but you also do not try to tear down the team because you didn't see what you expected. the 31-0 game just showed that they were not prepared for the game and the loss of Cassel had more to do with the outcome than anything else. With Cassel at QB the game would have been a tossup in my opinion, could have gone either way.

I'm not going to get into the side arguments, but getting back on topic, he's right.

Our run defense has been pretty bad the past 6 games, not counting Seattle - they didn't even try to run the ball, 10-12 attempts at most.

Not a good time to face the 3 RB's coming up.

So what will be your comments if the Chiefs win out?

My question would be "Is the run defense better than it was last year?"

We are not what I would call a SB contender, but we have made progress towards becoming one.

Expecting the playoffs and more this year is really a stretch, but the team has made a better run than in the past. The Chiefs are on track to return to greatness.

What does any of what you just posted have to do with my post?

My post was pretty easy to grasp. Our run defense of late has been poor. We face 3 good backs to end the season.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Yes, and meanwhile, we've padded the rest of our record against complete shit teams, and struggled against several of them.

And the last time we had a game with big standings implications, we blew that, too. See Oakland.

We're frauds, and we'll prove it in the playoffs.

You're a moron.

The entire team played like shit. The front seven was god awful. They didn't look like a playoff caliber team in any way.

Which of course, hasn't happened once this season.

Thanks for playing.

Frauds. LMAO.

What he's been of late is a wannabe JW drama queen.

LMAO @ B_Ambuehl. Dumbass...

I guess it went zooming over your head.

Try it again but leave the angst out of it.

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I see Tom hasn't changed.

I see that you have no clue as to the chemistry of a team, but that is not surprising to anyone that reads your shit, and that is what it is exactly .. shit.

Your response above shows that you have not been a fan of the Chiefs and probably never will be. A fan is someone that supports his team at all costs, they bleed red and gold when they lose but they don't give up on them. You sounded happier when Hermit Edwierds was the HC and we lost and lost and lost and lost.

I was wrong, you don't have any writing talent, all you seem to have is hate in your being for anything that does not flow the way you want it to. Dude, the river of life, and Football, will never flow your direction, if it should you will most likely would turn upstream.

You don't see squat. You talked of the run defense sucked.

I asked the question: "Is the run defense better than it was last year?"

Where did that miss out on your intent.

It seems like you haven't changed, you don't read you only respond to a name.

The answer of your question doesn't change my post.

The run defense HAS been terrible the past 6 games, sans Seattle. We face 3 tough backs to end the season.

Notice I made ZERO comment about how those last 3 games may play out.

Move along, Tom. I'm sure there are goalposts elsewhere for you to feebly try to move.

Are you trying to say the rest of the team sucked because Cassel was out?

LMAO

If so, you're a bigger ignoramus than everyone here - and yes, Tom, that's everyone - has you already figured for.

THIS season. LMAO

1- Your the Chiefs
2-Your the Chiefs
3- Goatboy is your biggest fan

The Chiefs have been shitty for years.

The last time I was truly homering out of control was at the beginning of 2007.

If you want to cling to the past, go ahead. Doesn't really mean shit.

You still have not addressed my question. Is the run defense better this year than it was last year? You haven't made it to the goal posts you set when you made your first comment.

If the run defense was as poor as you say they Chiefs would not be 8-5. You seem to have a common sense disconnect in your ability to reply to a simple question.

AGAIN: Is the Chiefs run defense better this year than it was last year?

You seem to have a higher impression of your grasp on the dynamics of a team than anyone could think.

I was going to explain how missing the starting QB might have an impact on the team but it's obvious that you don't have the capability to understand.

When you find a new team to be a fan of I really feel sorry for that team. You will do your best to tear them down. You have been shit, you are shit and you will be shit.

You were never a homer, you just don't have that capacity.

Are you insinuating that our front seven somehow magically got their asses kicked because Cassel was in street clothes?

If so....kill yourself.

I'm saying that you don't understand football anywhere near what a 2 year old understands that it shouldn't shit it's pants.

You are not capable of understanding where the Chiefs are or where they are going.

If the Chiefs make it to the playoffs you willing to tell everyone you were wrong?

What the **** is the point of this thread?

I doubt anybody has claimed this team is one of the best or most talented in the NFL, and whoever has is an idiot. But why the hell would people not be excited, even with performances like last week? This team has outperformed expectations, even with performances like last week. I for one and glad to not be picking in the top 5. We can finally draft a talented player and not worry about paying him too much. Anybody who doesn't think this team is going in the right direction is blind.

So long story short, what is the point of calling this team a fraud? If this team was a finished product then we surely would be a fraud. As it is right now though, we are a rebuilding team in progress who are probably over performing.

But I wouldn't expect a fat loser like yourself to understand any of this. So do us all a favor and go choke on a dick and die, bundle of sticks.

I'll answer this for OTWP.

We've improved from allowing 4.7 YPC to 4.3 YPC.

Slight improvement.

What do you expect when seven of the Chiefs 13 games have come against teams in the bottom half of the league in rushing offense?

We have shut down exactly ONE good rushing offense this year, and that came in a game with a tractor-riding hayseed playing quarterback for the opposition.

If you take a look at the 2009 schedule, we didn't really have the luxury of facing a bunch of dogshit running teams.

And at the beginning of the year all of the teams were 0-0. You seem to want to act as if the teams started out 0-8 before they played the Chiefs.

The facts are that the team is better now than it's been since Vermeils last year. Back then we had tons of offense and NO defense. You are under the delusion that because the Chiefs record is 8-5 they should be tons better.

Enter 2006-2009 the Chiefs were 19-45 and you can't see improvement in the team? I'm sure the Chiefs run defense in those four seasons was just incomparable to the current defense.

kcchiefsus seems to have it nailed. You might read what he had to say. Too bad you don't have the capacity to see the Chiefs are not the team they were, and yet you feel compelled to tell us all they are frauds? It just doesn't wash goatcheese.

Two reasons: The past and the future.

Right now we're a team constructed to lose in the first round of the playoffs. Dogshit receivers other than one guy, pass protection that gets raped against upper echelon pass rush teams, questionable quarterback play that has only recently started to trend upward. Those kinds of teams go home early in January, and we have a history of that in Kansas City for the exact same reasons (mostly QB and receiver).

As far as the future, next year our schedule is ****ing brutal. We don't play the NFC West, and we won't draw shitty teams like Buffalo or Cleveland again. Even if we make the playoffs this year, it's no guarantee we even get close next year.

Because we passed on addressing the front seven in 2010 (and in 2009, incidentally, thanks Mr. Pioli), it's a dire need going into 2011. Of course, we also passed on adding a real receiver (instead, we got a gimmick), which almost ensures our first pick next year will be a receiver.

What are the odds we get the right receiver and the right two or three players our front seven needs to take that step up to where they can compete with the 6-6 teams in this league instead of giving up 200 yards rushing and getting shut out 31-0?

Somewhere around 3,720 to 1.

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No, I'm under the "delusion" that because we're 8-5, we ought to be competing with 6-6 teams, or at least not completely ****ing embarrassing ourselves.

FWIW, the last time the Chiefs made the playoffs, they did it on the collective back of the AFC West team, too, and got exposed as frauds for their trouble.

Are you pissed that the Chiefs are 8-5 when maybe they could/should be 5-8?

What did you expect this season? I expected 6-8 wins. Growing pains.

I'm not surprised they got their ass handed to them in SD.

Not sure why you're throwing a tantrum about this.

I was.

Supposedly they were a decent football item. At least that's what I was beginning to believe.

I guess they're bigger frauds than even I could have possibly fathomed.

Frauds. LOL There's that word again.

Its your mistake that you assumed they were good. Even Haley says they're not. They will be. Too many holes now. At least they're learning how to win at home. Young team. Give it some time. They will be soon enough.

The goalposts I set?

Here's my first comment:

What the Chiefs defense did against the run last year has nothing to do with my comment. Nothing. At. All.

I'm not sure what part of "Our run defense has been pretty bad the past 6 games" you don't get. It's a fact. They've given up an average of 145 yards per game during the stretch I mentioned. That's not good. If you want to try to rationalize that because the defense is overall better than last year, be my guest. It doesn't make my comment any less factual, however.

If you want to get into a pissing match with Clay over something unrelated, fine. What the two of you are arguing over has nothing to do with what I said, I was simply agreeing with the idea in the OP - that it's a bad time for the run defense to have started declining. Nothing more.

You're wasting your time with me, Tom.

This very thread is the opposite of the one with your game by game predictions.

:deevee::deevee::deevee: Go root for the chargers then. Honestly. or the Pats cuz obviously you cannot handle losing very well.

Its part of the game.

What I get is that your comments about the Chiefs run defense seems to turn a blind eye as to the fact they are not the team they were last year. They are 8-5 for God's sake, you act as if they were losing every game. If you can't handle them going through the growth to a better team maybe you should move on and root for another team. Why don't you and goatcheese get married and move to San Francisco and root for the 9ers?

And there it is. Tom basically admitting this was more about me, and not about my post.

Apparently in Tom's world, stating a fact (145 yards rushing against the past 6 games, sans Seattle) is "slamming" the Chiefs.

What's next? Reporting every post in which someone uses your name?

Your act was tired on your second username, it's just downright pathetic on what, your 5th? 6th?

Why did you delete that post, Tom?

LMAO

Why are you sending me PM's making false claims, Tom?

Where have I ever made a comment that would lead someone to believe we've met?

Oh wait, I haven't.

You R a complete fuking dousche. Root for another team FukFace.

At the beginning of the season I thought this team was AT BEST a 8-8 team. So far they've exceeded anyone's expectations.

That's Tom's M.O. He recently sent me a neg-rep for threatening his life! ROFL ... Go figure!

He really doesn't mean to be this way. The voices in his head tell him to.

It's really a shame that Haley plays favorites and blindly goes against what is best for his team

Not really, they still could be an 8-8 team.

LMAO

No one handles losing better than me. How often do you see me losing my shit and ranting and raving after a loss? Not often.

What's becoming obvious is a lot of Chiefs fans don't handle winning well. They want to take the Chiefs' winning record and automatically prop them up as a legit team, and when someone speaks out against that notion, they lose their shit and call me a "bundle of sticks" or a "fuking dousche."

I can't remember the last time I did that, either.

So who handles what well? It would seem the Chiefs don't handle 6-6 teams very well, and some fans can't handle reality well when it smacks them in the face, as it keeps doing this year at the most inopportune times.

Franke, I didn't make any game by game predictions. That was a post I quoted.

The odds are against that, but still 8-8 is an improvement over the past 3 seasons final mark. They can be as good as 11-5 and as bad as 8-8. They will not finish the season at 8-8.

This is the problem.

Once again, and I will make this as simple and as clear as possible.

Did Todd Haley or Scott Pioli, or anyone in the Chiefs organiation tell you that this is a good team and that you should hold high expectations for them?

Did Todd Haley not, in fact, tell us that this is still a team learning and growing that isn't a good team yet?

You got your hopes up based on previous wins.

They didn't defraud you.

You defrauded yourself.

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Goat Cheese has some kind of imagination. His expectations were far higher than any might have thought. I went into this season hoping to see improvement, we never saw any with Edwards, last year made me think we may have not selected the right people. The addition of Weis and Crennel bolstered hope, and we have seen progress.

Milkman and I hardly ever agree on anything but with this one post he has totally destroyed the concept of fraud brought out by Goat Cheese.

Job well done Milkman.

LMAO

I thought we'd win seven games.

Just because they have exceeded expectations doesn't mean anyone should be pleased with 31-0 abortions.

The soft schedule is clouding the idea of any real sense of progress. It feels a little phony.

Who the hell were the Chiefs beating the last two years when they were winning 6 games?

The team that hit the field in '08 and '09 would be lucky to win 5 games against this schedule, softness be damned.

They are an improving team that is finally winning games they should be winning.

But they are still a young team that lacks talent in key positions and no depth, especially at the most important position on the field.

thats cause you got no ****in heart. Die in a tirefire bitch!

I've already told him this more than once.

..and I've been saying this all season, or at least when the 'hoopla' started.

From an organizational point of view the Chiefs are playing with house money. They've probably exceeded internal expectations, especially with another win or two.

From a fan point of view it's bittersweet. Sure, the improved play is great, but when you lead the division the 2nd week in December you sure as hell expect the team to make the playoffs and have a shot at advancing.

Gochiefs: Hey, how are you?
Chubbyrehead12: I'm ok.
Gochiefs: What do you look like?
Chubbyredhead12: well, I've lost some weight, but am still about 40 lbs overweight. I've had some work done, but I'm basically a 4.
Gochiefs: A hot Irish model?!!? Sweet! (fap, fap, fap)
Chubbyredhead12: uh... Slow down. My arrow is pointing up, but no one on earth would describe me as hot.
Gochiefs: uhnph... Uhnph...uhnph...
Chubbyredhead12: uh...
I think maybe you're overreacting.
Gochiefs: I can wait to see a pic!!!
Chubbyredhead12: um... Ok... But like I said... Nothing special... <pic sent>
Gochiefs: you lying whore! You are a fraud! You are not a hot Irish model!!! Why, God, why!!!????!!!!!

GoChiefs is well versed in internet dating. He even said so at one time, it's sad that some unsuspecting female (or male according to a few of his posts) end up with a basement dwelling dweeb.

Oh, Sully - you need to send a new keyboard - I spit my coffee all over this one!

I'm so glad someone came around to "keep it real." Such a noble effort. Because when you have a team who has overachieved and is in contention for a home playoff game, the best thing to do is to not get excited.

There's nothing better than being a fan of a team and having low expectations. It makes seasons like this so much more fun.

You should use that in an article GC. These delusional homers need to be told the truth. Last night I was at the gym and a guy comes up to me and says, "The chiefs can probably do some damage in the playoffs if Cassell comes back healthy." LOL

So, you go to the gym to meet guys and talk football?

Holy shit batman.

The Chiefs are a team being rebuilt. I know that little tidbit of informaiton has gotten around you. I'm hoping you get a dose of reality (or anything else) on Christmas morning.

The truth is that KC is still in first place. They have three games against teams with worse records. If they win the division, they deserve it. End of story.

LOL. I don't understand you guys. You know the team isn't that good. You know they're gonna get their ass kicked if they even make the playoffs. You know they only have a decent record because they've had one of the easiest schedules in NFL history. But someone points out anything negative and you act like someone stole your box of tampons.

Do you stay up on christmas eve waiting for santa to come down the chimney too?

There's a fine line between being a delusional homer, and a realistic fan who is over-the-top excited at the chance of a home playoff game.

Then there are people like you who can't seem to find anything positive in a season like this. Almost as if there is no point in getting excited because, you know, they suck and stuff.

I'm convinced that there's a good percentage of the people on this board who claim to be Chiefs fans, but if you look at their posting history, they have never had anything positive to say about the team, the coaches, the players, the waterboy, the parking, etc.

Sure, we all grouse about stuff from time to time, and there have definitely been events and people who needed to be groused about. Still, to be 100% negative with every post is odd.

Either they're really NOT Chiefs fans and love to twit the rest of the fans on the board or else they're just miserable people who revel in being negative.

Either way, it's generally not worth the effort to argue with them.

Do you want to know about reality? I doubt you do, the facts are the W/L record is less of a fluke than you think.

Don't let a good hate of the Chiefs go to waste, keep hating them. I expect you to exile yourself from KC should they get to the Playoffs.

You're right. I really don't know why they play the game. Final standings should be based solely on expectations. Sure, Kansas City's schedule hasn't exactly been a grind, but you can also say that about the Chargers.... and the Chiefs are still ahead of the them in the standings with three games remaining. I don't know if the Chiefs will still be leading the division after January 2nd, but I can say that this team is one hell of a lot better and much more entertaining than they were a year ago. I guess the Chiefs have been so miserably bad for so long, that some fans can't grasp the idea that they are truly getting better.
Are the Chiefs where I want them to be? No, not even close. I can say.... without any reservations, that they are definitely headed in the right direction.