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kysirsoze 01-19-2011 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7370166)
Chiefs players get shit when they don't achieve things. When they do achieve things it always gets rationalized as a fluke.

Its great.

Just not true.

Priests records - legit
Jamaal's YPC - legit
Tony G's every record ever - legit

It's an achievement, sure, but Cassel has screwed up enough for us to question the fact that he is someone who will consistently perform at an elite level. I'm happy for him and the offense that helped get him there, but that doesn't mean I've lost perspective.

DeezNutz 01-19-2011 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7370181)
I hope his nut-fondlers realize that as well.

I do. Did you not see the crow eating thread I started? I know its overall post count is paltry, but still.

|Zach| 01-19-2011 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7370171)
do you have like a garage door remote type thing you use to lower yourself from the cross before posting here?


i've never before seen a person whose own personal sense of self worth is determined in relation to a sports message board...


and why are you guys ruining Cassel's thread by obsessing about another team's QB?

Your issues with me sound a lot more like your problem than mine. Sorry pointing out the hilarity of angry message board\sports radio types hits so close to home for you. ROFL

Bowser 01-19-2011 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7370177)
Unfortunately, this is truth.

If there is any team in the NFL that needs to win the freaking championship just so its fans can once and for all get rid of their eternal myopia, it's this one.

Let me amend this to include just Chiefs QB's.....

Marcellus 01-19-2011 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7370178)
Bullshit. Waters, Shields, Roaf, Bowe, Jared Allen, Jamaal Charles... hell, even Jerome Woods

All those guys were worthy of their Pro Bowl selections. I don't see where you're getting this generalization that Chiefs fans believe their Pro Bowl players are unworthy.

Woods made the PB years AFTER he should have. That was like a come back player of the year selection after the broken leg.

Cassel is more deserving than Woods unless you count a make up vote for years Woods Should have been there.

RealSNR 01-19-2011 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7370181)
I hope his nut-fondlers realize that as well.

I think they do but they spend so much time defending his mediocre play as "developing" that they're often painted into a corner and forced to make him look better than he is.

L.A. Chieffan 01-19-2011 10:16 PM

Why would we want cassel to go anywhere? Are you guys high? Cassel is f'n probowler bitches. How many other fanbases can say that? CASSEL FO LIFE BABY!

RealSNR 01-19-2011 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7370191)
Woods made the PB years AFTER he should have. That was like a come back player of the year selection after the broken leg.

Cassel is more deserving than Woods unless you count a make up vote for years Woods Should have been there.

Why do you hate the Chiefs?

dirk digler 01-19-2011 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7370178)
Bullshit. Waters, Shields, Roaf, Bowe, Jared Allen, Priest, TRich, Gonzalez, Jamaal Charles... hell, even Jerome Woods

All those guys were worthy of their Pro Bowl selections. I don't see where you're getting this generalization that Chiefs fans believe their Pro Bowl players are unworthy.

I don't think Waters has deserved it the last few seasons.

TheGuardian 01-19-2011 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7370178)
Bullshit. Waters, Shields, Roaf, Bowe, Jared Allen, Jamaal Charles... hell, even Jerome Woods

All those guys were worthy of their Pro Bowl selections. I don't see where you're getting this generalization that Chiefs fans believe their Pro Bowl players are unworthy.

So Cassel is the 5th best rated AFC passer
4th in TD's
3rd in fewest INT's

And led his team to a divisional title but doesn't deserve to be 1st alternate?

huh?

big nasty kcnut 01-19-2011 10:17 PM

Congrat to matt cassel he deserve this honor.

dirk digler 01-19-2011 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7370186)
I do. Did you not see the crow eating thread I started? I know its overall post count is paltry, but still.

Did people pick on you because I have your back. Everybody makes mistakes so I hope they were cool to you. If not holla

KCBOSS1 01-19-2011 10:17 PM

Crap, we will never get rid of this guy.

RealSNR 01-19-2011 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 7370195)
I don't think Waters has deserved it the last few seasons.

God, you're insufferable. Why do you even root for this team if you hate them so much?

Marcellus 01-19-2011 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7370181)
I hope his nut-fondlers realize that as well.

I hope his haters also realize he did play well enough to deserve consideration.

Consideration is different than being a contender.

I am a fence jumper. Like him, hate him, like him, hate him. Just want him to work out for the best interest of the team.

|Zach| 01-19-2011 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCBOSS1 (Post 7370200)
Crap, we will never get rid of this guy.

Bawwwww

Thig Lyfe 01-19-2011 10:18 PM

Awesome. This helps increase his trade value.

Bowser 01-19-2011 10:18 PM

(This game is just a stats popularity thing anyway*. These guys don't even try that hard until the fourth quarter when they realize that if they win they get an extra 20K)

(*don't tell that to Tamba Hali)

RealSNR 01-19-2011 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7370196)
So Cassel is the 5th best rated AFC passer
4th in TD's
3rd in fewest INT's

And led his team to a divisional title but doesn't deserve to be 1st alternate?

huh?

All I said was I think Roethlisberger and Garrard are better QBs.

|Zach| 01-19-2011 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7370208)
(This game is just a stats popularity thing anyway*. These guys don't even try that hard until the fourth quarter when they realize that if they win they get an extra 20K)

(*don't tell that to Tamba Hali)

Nice.

Marcellus 01-19-2011 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7370194)
Why do you hate the Chiefs?

What part of that post says that?

kysirsoze 01-19-2011 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7370190)
Let me amend this to include just Chiefs QB's.....

Okay, THAT I'll grant you. I think a lot of Chiefs fans undervalued Trent Green when he was here. Had he won a SB he would have been seen as hands down the best Chiefs QB evar. That goes with the position, though.

But, the idea that Chiefs fans are consistent doubters of Chiefs players in general is just competely absurd.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-19-2011 10:20 PM

He is...

The most interesting...

backup...

in the world.

"Stay mediocre my KC friends".
http://listentoleon.net/wp/wp-conten...tay-thisty.jpg

TheGuardian 01-19-2011 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7370210)
All I said was I think Roethlisberger and Garrard are better QBs.

Garrard at this point? Prolly not.

Of course big ben is.

But the point is, Cassel's stats are pro bowl worthy.

dirk digler 01-19-2011 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7370202)
God, you're insufferable. Why do you even root for this team if you hate them so much?

LMAO

Marcellus 01-19-2011 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7370210)
All I said was I think Roethlisberger and Garrard are better QBs.

Garrard? Why do you hate the Chiefs?

RealSNR 01-19-2011 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7370208)
(This game is just a stats popularity thing anyway*. These guys don't even try that hard until the fourth quarter when they realize that if they win they get an extra 20K)

(*don't tell that to Tamba Hali)

This post pisses me off. It forces me to recognize that we had two HUUGE snubs. Players who REALLY deserve Pro Bowl nominations.

(Hali and Flowers of course)

kysirsoze 01-19-2011 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7370194)
Why do you hate the Chiefs?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7370202)
God, you're insufferable. Why do you even root for this team if you hate them so much?

LMAO

L.A. Chieffan 01-19-2011 10:21 PM

Cassel proboel Jerseys on sale at nflshop!

dirk digler 01-19-2011 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7370220)
This post pisses me off. It forces me to recognize that we had two HUUGE snubs. Players who REALLY deserve Pro Bowl nominations.

(Hali and Flowers of course)

Flowers didn't deserve it either.

TheGuardian 01-19-2011 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 7370224)
Flowers didn't deserve it either.

Nope.

But Tamba did.

Marcellus 01-19-2011 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7370228)
Nope.

But Tamba did.

Lead the AFC in sacks? You think?

kysirsoze 01-19-2011 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 7370223)
Cassel proboel Jerseys on sale at nflshop!

HAHA. Oh shit. I would probably buy one of those if they made them. That would either be an awesome pickup to wear for years to come when he is leading us to superbowls, or it would be a hilarious reminder of Cassel's fraudulence. Win-Win.

BossChief 01-19-2011 10:24 PM

Nobody wanted to vote for Ben Rapeahoe to get anything...but let that not take away from the year Cassel had.

I just wish he had finished it better.

RealSNR 01-19-2011 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 7370224)
Flowers didn't deserve it either.

I'm done talking to you, Chief-hater. Get out of me

|Zach| 01-19-2011 10:24 PM

I have never bought a jersey....ever. I should pick one up some time. I would probably get a Shields jersey. Maybe Berry.

Chiefs Rool 01-19-2011 10:25 PM

I'd feel good for Mark if he didn't shit his pants in the playoffs

kysirsoze 01-19-2011 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7370228)
Nope.

But Tamba did.

Yeah, that has got to be up there for biggest snubs all time just because of how sacks are such a bellweather of popularity as well as such an impactful play. I was genuinely surprised by that.

kysirsoze 01-19-2011 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7370238)
I have never bought a jersey....ever. I should pick one up some time. I would probably get a Shields jersey. Maybe Berry.

No Cassel?? Hater.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-19-2011 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Rool (Post 7370239)
I'd feel good for Mark if he didn't shit his pants in the playoffs

We might very well witness the first pro bowl QB to perform a full shitting of pants at said game. Hey, this just got interesting!

Marcellus 01-19-2011 10:27 PM

Seriously it's good for KC and good for the team. I want as many Chiefs as possible in the PB if we can't do the SB.

Hopefully he doesn't throw 3 picks like Bono.

Art Vader 01-19-2011 10:29 PM

Matty Price!

...the mutha****a did it.
http://i55.tinypic.com/15plgzl.jpg

DJ's left nut 01-19-2011 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 7370172)
Look down at post #60. :D

BTW that is not a knock on DJ it just signals this was the final nail in the coffin. Cassel is staying and we need to get used to it.

Absolutely, I suppose I didn't make that point terribly clear.

The Pro Bowl nod and Cassel's retention are unrelated. Cassel was going to be here for awhile with or without the Pro Bowl nod. The TD/INT ratio pretty much guaranteed that.

I'm mostly rolling my eyes at the fact that I'm going to get to hear "Oh yeah, well he was a Pro Bowler, jackass" for the next 2 seasons. It's going to become a magic bullet that is drawn every time somebody points out his shortcomings.

All told, the PB nomination can only be a good thing for the Chiefs. The 'damage' as I see it was already done, with or without the PB berth, so the nomination itself has no downside. On the other hand, it raises the standing of the organization somewhat and it may help us get another WR threat in here.

It's just a virtual certainty to become an annoying meme that I'm positive I'll grow tired of by November of 2011.

Oh well. Like I said, I'm pretty much done with the "draft a QB" cry - the organization isn't going to go that route. I'm going to continue to insist that we can (and should) do better, but ultimately I have no choice but to hope the plan that has failed for the last 25 years, finally falls into place.

|Zach| 01-19-2011 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7370244)
We might very well witness the first pro bowl QB to perform a full shitting of pants at said game. Hey, this just got interesting!

Maybe it will give you a chance to use laissez-faire again in a way that shows you have no idea what it means. Ya know ROR, when in Rome...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TdofRgsCoG.../anchorman.jpg

|Zach| 01-19-2011 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7370253)

I'm mostly rolling my eyes at the fact that I'm going to get to hear "Oh yeah, well he was a Pro Bowler, jackass" for the next 2 seasons. It's going to become a magic bullet that is drawn every time somebody points out his shortcomings.

All told, the PB nomination can only be a good thing for the Chiefs. The 'damage' as I see it was already done, with or without the PB berth, so the nomination itself has no downside. On the other hand, it raises the standing of the organization somewhat and it may help us get another WR threat in here.

It's just a virtual certainty to become an annoying meme that I'm positive I'll grow tired of by November of 2011.

Oh well. Like I said, I'm pretty much done with the "draft a QB" cry - the organization isn't going to go that route. I'm going to continue to insist that we can (and should) do better, but ultimately I have no choice but to hope the plan that has failed for the last 25 years, finally falls into place.

Oh yes. There are about of million tired ass things that will be drug out. Namely...

"OMG MC is a pro bowler!"

and

"OMG MC shit is pants!"

Both of them will be true!

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-19-2011 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 7370262)
Maybe it will give you a chance to use laissez-faire again in a way that shows you have no idea what it means. Ya know ROR, when in Rome...

Maybe you can finally buy a Cassel jersey now and retire that lovely Pats sweatshirt of yours!

|Zach| 01-19-2011 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7370277)
Maybe you can finally buy a Cassel jersey now and retire that lovely Pats sweatshirt of yours!

Nah, that sweatshirt is nice and warm. would rather it was just blue...but hey it was free!!!

KurtCobain 01-19-2011 10:38 PM

Congrats, Matt.

The Bad Guy 01-19-2011 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7370165)
I agree, man.

It definitely helps Pioli in terms of public perception. Exec. of the Year. His hand-picked boy is a Pro Bowler.

Hey, maybe we parlay these things into some solid personnel moves this off-season and have a good crack at improving, no matter the brutal schedule we're looking at next year? Can't hurt, that's for damn sure.

Sure wish we'd hear about a strong OC hire, though...

Took the words out of my head.

suzzer99 01-19-2011 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7370244)
We might very well witness the first pro bowl QB to perform a full shitting of pants at said game. Hey, this just got interesting!

Derek Anderson imo

Reerun_KC 01-19-2011 10:56 PM

Sweet. Now that the qb position is set for another 3-5 years. I am so looking forward to the team that the exec of the year is building. What a great time to be a chiefs fan.

TheGuardian 01-19-2011 11:00 PM

I hope Cassel goes 60 for 60 in the pro bowl for 900 yards and 7 TD's just to watch some people here show up in the news for setting themselves on fire as they watched it happen.

Thig Lyfe 01-19-2011 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7370362)
Sweet. Now that the qb position is set for another 3-5 years. I am so looking forward to the team that the exec of the year is building. What a great time to be a chiefs fan.

You're looking forward to losing in the first round of the playoffs (at best) for the next 3-5 years? To each his own, I guess.

Thig Lyfe 01-19-2011 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7370376)
I hope Cassel goes 60 for 60 in the pro bowl for 900 yards and 7 TD's just to watch some people here show up in the news for setting themselves on fire as they watched it happen.

Why would anybody set themselves on fire over something pointless that proves nothing?

ShortRoundChief 01-19-2011 11:02 PM

Anyone notice when Brady's legs get hurt Cassell gets to play.

|Zach| 01-19-2011 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 7370381)
You're looking forward to losing in the first round of the playoffs (at best) for the next 3-5 years? To each his own, I guess.

Bawwwww

ShortRoundChief 01-19-2011 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 7370389)
Why would anybody set themselves on fire over something pointless that proves nothing?


Half the people are here to see him fail and the other half to succeed. Quite exciting, indeed.

Tribal Warfare 01-19-2011 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 7370381)
You're looking forward to losing in the first round of the playoffs (at best) for the next 3-5 years? To each his own, I guess.

What do you expect, he's just saying that to get a rise out of people.

Reerun_KC 01-19-2011 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 7370381)
You're looking forward to losing in the first round of the playoffs (at best) for the next 3-5 years? To each his own, I guess.

Yep. Actually I do. It's a natural way to thin the herd of fans and CP. I hope you enjoy rooting for another team the next 3/5 years si ce your are so damn sure that it's going to unfold your way.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-19-2011 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 7370381)
You're looking forward to losing in the first round of the playoffs (at best) for the next 3-5 years? To each his own, I guess.

I guess you want to go back to the days of herm ball 4-12 2-14?????

Tribal Warfare 01-19-2011 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7370423)
Yep. Actually I do. It's a natural way to thin the herd of fans and CP. I hope you enjoy rooting for another team the next 3/5 years si ce your are so damn sure that it's going to unfold your way.

yep, rise out of people

ShortRoundChief 01-19-2011 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haydenchiefs101 (Post 7370426)
I guess you want to go back to the days of herm ball 4-12 2-14?????

Hmmm, except the same guy took us to 10-6 this year.

BossChief 01-19-2011 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7370376)
I hope Cassel goes 60 for 60 in the pro bowl for 900 yards and 7 TD's just to watch some people here show up in the news for setting themselves on fire as they watched it happen.

have you ever watched a probowl?

TheGuardian 01-19-2011 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7370435)
have you ever watched a probowl?

Oh lord, of course.

It was a mother ****ing joke.

It's like you guys have lost the ability read sarcasm/humor.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-19-2011 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotherLover (Post 7370432)
Hmmm, except the same guy took us to 10-6 this year.

herm would of had this team at 4-12 this year

DeezNutz 01-19-2011 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haydenchiefs101 (Post 7370438)
herm would of had this team at 4-12 this year

Herm would have had this team at 11-5.

Reerun_KC 01-19-2011 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 7370428)
yep, rise out of people

Whether we like it or not. Cassell will be here at least 3 more years if not 5. Cant see any reason why they would just bail on the project and start over.

NFL management isn't as knee jerk as the fan base. Unless youre Daniel Snyder.

ShortRoundChief 01-19-2011 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haydenchiefs101 (Post 7370438)
herm would of had this team at 4-12 this year

at best

I bet we'd lose more than that.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-19-2011 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7370445)
Herm would have had this team at 11-5.

hahahah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Ka..._Chiefs_season look how bad those teams are we played where....8-8 WON THE WEST

DeezNutz 01-19-2011 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haydenchiefs101 (Post 7370452)
hahahah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Ka..._Chiefs_season look how bad those teams we played where....8-8 WON THE WEST

Herm would have had this team at 19-3.

ShortRoundChief 01-19-2011 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7370445)
Herm would have had this team at 11-5.

Interesting opinion. One of which I don't share, but interesting nonetheless.

BossChief 01-19-2011 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7370436)
Oh lord, of course.

It was a mother ****ing joke.

It's like you guys have lost the ability read sarcasm/humor.

well, some of the time you are a good guy to debate with and others you just fly off the handle and seemingly dont know whats going on.

Its hard to tell when you are being legit or not sometimes.

Demonpenz 01-19-2011 11:20 PM

people are fanatical about football. Go Mattural light

Hammock Parties 01-19-2011 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 7370099)
What would Matt Cassel do if it wasn't for Brady injuries?

haha, touche!

i dont feel like checking, but i think i spelled touche right...

Hammock Parties 01-19-2011 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotherLover (Post 7370456)
Interesting opinion. One of which I don't share, but interesting nonetheless.

dumbest post ever...

Tribal Warfare 01-19-2011 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7370449)
Whether we like it or not. Cassell will be here at least 3 more years if not 5. Cant see any reason why they would just bail on the project and start over.

NFL management isn't as knee jerk as the fan base. Unless youre Daniel Snyder.



knee jerk, the asshole shit himself against against quasi and quality NFL Defenses in back to back games at home including the playoffs.

The guy doesn't have it at all. Cassel's a rich man's game manager.

Kidd Lex 01-19-2011 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headsnap (Post 7370085)
tool

Indeed

ShortRoundChief 01-19-2011 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhawkerman2001 (Post 7370466)
dumbest post ever...


Interesting opinion. One that I don't share but interesting nonetheless.

Hammock Parties 01-19-2011 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotherLover (Post 7370471)
Interesting opinion. One that I don't share but interesting nonetheless.

yah i didnt mean to reply to your post, my bad. lol
meant to reply to the herm would have this team at 11-5 post

ShortRoundChief 01-19-2011 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhawkerman2001 (Post 7370476)
yah i didnt mean to reply to your post, my bad. lol
meant to reply to the herm would have this team at 11-5 post


Fair enough, lol.


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