Last March, I got off of an airplane at Dallas Love Field airport, and my gate exited right in front of a Cinnabon stand. I could smell Cinnabon as soon as I walked out of the plane door. It was useless to resist. Impossible.

Makes sense. In cold months it doesn't melt before you can eat it.

Right.

So on the less than 1% chance that something negative might come of this, he decided he couldn't be inconvenienced and shut his door on a 7 year old.

Do unto others, indeed.

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I have to assume that you own a van that has a bag of candy in the dash.

I don't blame him a bit for not giving the kid a ride (or even letting him into the house). The only thing I would have done differently is to not give the kid the "option" of calling the cops.

It's a ****ed up world we live in when we're afraid to help children. I don't blame the individual, I blame society.

not long ago I helped an elderly lady who was having some sort of diabetic attack. I was on my front porch smoking and 2 20 somethings approached me and asked for a ride to a gas station to get gas. I did that and then came back and the lady in their car needed her medication, she lived on the other side of topeka and I quickly drove her home so she could get her meds. I'm all for helping out other people, but other people's kids are dangerous to help them out. Even just talking to another kid in public raises eyebrows.

But the case of the child, there are a lot of parents out there who would press charges against someone who put their kid in their car, even though it was just to help. Just because you wouldn't, that doesn't mean that there aren't a lot of people who would do the same as you. I'd probably have had to go to court and possibly prison if I chose to help the child out. That's the society we live in today. Now if I was out somewhere and this kid needed urgent medical attention and nobody was around, I wouldn't hesitate to put him in my car and drive him to the nearest hospital.

Should I have just called the police, yes. But the kid said he would fine walking and I didn't. But there is no way I'm putting a strange kid in my car and driving him somewhere in this day of age, you will get arrested and you will have some dip shit DA who looks at the case on paper and assumes pedophile and goes all out to ruin your life.

20 years ago, it would have been fine, but not today.

That's quite a leap. I give it a 9.2.

You do the right thing regarless. If more people actually DID the right thing then maybe society changes for the better. There are a dozen options available that are all better than just sending this kid on his way.

I drive past a Cinnabon location almost daily. Never stop. Am I ****ing up ?

Yeah I'm done even trying...the dude is obviously a dipshit.

LMAO

and I don't know where you assholes live...but "society" must be different there than it is here.

and the Rainman situation is much different...

since he was alone at the mall eating a yogurt when he found a lost kid...that's way creepier than a 7 year old kid needing help in your neighborhood.

but hey slam the door in the kid's face and tell him tough luck...that's the right thing to do! Otherwise you'll get the death penalty and gang rape.

Not specifically referring to the 7 year-old encounter or commenting on what should have been done, I'd like to add ...

It would be nice to act in the spirit of goodness and nobility at all times, however the reality of even a false accusation is that your name is publicized, you have acquired a new labeling and are convicted by many of your community causing problems not just for you but for your family - and all before you have even had a trial, if it even goes that far.

Your first responsibility is to you and your family. Scout leaders are trained to never have isolated one-on-one encounters with any child. This is not for the protection of the child but for the leader.

I would have walked the child over to a neighbor and then both of you call 911 and explain the situation. A 7 year old isn't the best decision maker and something is wrong when he has to walk a couple miles home.

IMHO

What? No rebuttal for the slipping on the ice part?

I agree with this. However, I would have called the police and asked them to handle the kid. I would not have let him go off by himself.

I would like to think I would do the right thing no matter what the consiquences

damn penz, you need to get that cat to a f@ckin orthodontist!
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Contrast these actions with the infamous David Cash/Iverson killing.

Cash and a friend were in a Vegas lobby when they saw a seven year old girl whose father was gambling. Cash and the friend start playing tag with her. She runs into the women's bathroom. The friend follows. Cash follows. The friend puts her in a stall, rapes her, and strangles her. She's dead. In the stall next to them, Cash was standing there, watching it all. He never reported it. He was never charged with any crime. He had no legal duty to stop the rape or report it to anyone. He was interviewed, said he felt as bad about it as he feels for African kids that die everyday (so, not at all).

A job well done Kevin, but it is sad that society has changed so much that innocent people are looked upon as evil now days.

It's a sad ,sad world we live in now.

I just took her straight to the Cinnabon girl.

"Probably have had to go to court..."

Dude - you're out to lunch, that's all there is to it.

There is an extremely remote chance that that could've happened. It's not impossible.

But for you to honestly state you "probably" would've been charged with a crime had you given the kid a ride says all that needs to be said.

You're absolutely frozen with paranoia here.

Blaming 'society' is a copout. The big bad world hasn't turned you into a jittery douche. You have.

You're not being very nice.

and what would I tell my family if I had to go to prison because I helped a kid out? I think it's more likely than you think. People out there are stupid and so is the justice system, that's too big of a risk for me to take.

As someone that works within the justice system, I can tell you you're incorrect. In fact, I went to school with a couple of prosecutors in the area that have dealt with a lot of 'bad touch' cases and they absolutely hate them. Primarily because they're damn near impossible to get a conviction on for a good case - let alone yours.

I'm willing to bet you couldn't find me a single instance of an individual convicted of any crime for giving a kid a ride.

And if you can, I'm pretty damn positive you couldn't find me the several hundred thousand it would take to raise the level of probability to 'likely'.

You're accusing me of being an idealist when in reality, you're simply living in world born of ignorance full of dark alleys and trap doors.

Stop harping on convictions. It isn't about convictions. It's about having an accusation or insinuation made in the first place.

The guy is talking about "OMGZ how would I tell my family I'm going to prison"

Not according to him - he's the one asking what he'd tell his family if he goes to jail.

As for the 'accusation' angle - define it. Are you referencing actual charges being filed? Because again I'd like to see examples of something as relatively benign as charges being filed for someone giving a kid a ride home.

And if it's merely intimations of a protective parent - well that's just a bit sad. If you're honestly unwilling to help a child out because of the risk that the parents might start telling the neighbors you're a peterast...well that's vanity run amok right there.

It's not society that did that to you. It's likely nothing more than your own imagination or perhaps an over-inflated ego.

Chiefs Rool is just a ****ing moron....

anyone who lives their life is a ****ing creep...

I thought the best advice ended up being the neighbor one...

Walk the kid over to your trusted next door neighbor and then go from there...that's the best way to play it.

The worst way? Slam the door in the kid's face and say tough luck.

Nope, live and learn. I bet that if the kid ended up being kidnapped after he was rejected, and then rescued, and it came out to police that you had rejected him, the parents would come after you with charges of a duty. You probably wouldn't be convicted, but the newspapers/community would smear you.

Next time, you know what to do.

Oh, it hasn't to do with knowing what goes in in actual fact. The media blasts these stories which has an influence on people. I don't know if I'd have given him a ride home myself but I would have called for help because, let's face it, it's pretty darn strange for a young kid to knock on your door looking for a ride.

I'm starting to think that the best option would have been for Chiefs Rool to simply kill the kid and bury him in the basement.

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So Cinnabon? good
Yogurt by the ounce? good
Chiefsrool? bad
Kevin? good

Does this adequately sum up this thread? Or was the midget disguised as a child a major theme?

Why aren't you in jail yet?

oh get off of your high horse dude, you think you are perfect?

I bet he's not, but atleast he would help a poor kid instead of going nutso paranoid that the world is after him. Seriously dude, if this happens again, do you do the same thing?

ROFL ROFL ROFL I'm in tears right now.

Atleast he'd help a 7 year old kid...

Nobody would've ever known.

Like most arguments, there's some good reasoning and truth on both sides.. But I'd have to say you guys attacking him are being d-bags. In this day and age, I think we can all admit that shit is pretty ****ed up. We have people suing McDonalds for getting fat and spilling coffee on themselves for Christ's sake! It isn't a ridiculous stretch of the imagination to think that his name could be tarnished off a faulty accusation. The media is very powerful, and people's imaginations even moreso.

In the end, I think ChiefsRool WAS being over-paranoid and SHOULD HAVE HELPED THE KID; but I'm not sharpening my pitchfork on his ass for it either. He had good reason to be a little skeptical (given the situation and this day and age).

I think you guys are being a little harsh on Chiefs Rool, the dude does have a small point to this story. If the parents are bad enough to let their 7/8 yr old child roam the streets a few miles from their home, then hard telling what crap they would pull out of their ass if a strange male brought that child home in his car.

Now with that being said, Chiefs Rool, you could have helped the child by walking him home or calling the police to take care of it, rather then just turning your back.

Rain Man, kuddos for helping the little girl and directing her over to the Cinnabon girl.

What sort of godforsaken wasteland do you live in that doesn't have froyo joints yet? Fayetteville has three of them now for god's sakes. The venerable TCBY franchise is in the process of switching their businesses over to that model. A couple of other big chains are Orange Leaf and Three Spoons. I bet you have one nearby. They're pretty awesome.

No.

Just a word of caution for some of you guys who live in Oklahoma.

If you purchase 1 large, 1 medium, and 1 small Cinnabon and stack them up on your head in that order, it looks like you're wearing a cow patty hat.

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Ditto. I do agree with him to the extent that there's no way in hell I would just up and stick him in my car to drive him home, but I definitely would have asked the kid to stick around while I called the cops.

Lol there are like 5 new yogurt places like this opening up in LA every day. There are at least 20 of them within a few miles of my house. It's really out of control. Blows my mind that it could be so popular here and still hasn't hit other areas at all.

Prepare for PinkBerry.

Both of them were students at Cal (?) I think. Some states have a law that you have to report stuff. Nevada does not (or didn't at the time). The kid who never reported it got harassed but apparently still got a nuclear engineering degree from Cal.

I lived in SF when this happened. Thanks for getting me all pissed/upset about it all over again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Strohmeyer

Jesus, after googling this scumbag lives in my city. Ugh. http://www.ripoffreport.com/criminal...mpli-c24cc.htm

I'm not sure what proof or vintage it was but something induced me to share parts of this thread with one my sons.

Something he said was pretty interesting. It seems that some movie or show had a situation where a young kid went up to a house asking for a ride home a few miles away. His story was plausible and he was given a ride. When the car stops, the kid jumps out and runs off. Turns out he was running away from home and only lived a couple blocks away from the guy giving a ride. The guy gets back home to see police cars cruising the neighborhood and door to door search ......

I'm happy to report that, yesterday, I made a difference in the life of an elderly lady.

I was preparing to park my automobile at the local grocery market when an elderly woman in a walker began crossing my path. Apparently, this poor woman was afflicted with arthritis since, every few seconds, she would take one, short, painful step then move her walker a few inches before taking another small, excruciating step. Meanwhile, I suppressed the urge to run her down.

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