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aturnis 07-24-2011 12:48 AM

I thought somebody had been talking about trying to acquire him one way or another, now that I think about it, I am confusing him with Paul Soliai, who Milk had been talking about making a deal for. I'll edit my post.

aturnis 07-24-2011 12:50 AM

Anyway, I think Franklin could be good if he'll take a short deal(doubtful). Let him stop the run, and let Powe get after the QB while he learns the ins and outs of NT in the NFL.

Chiefs=Champions 07-24-2011 01:31 AM

People hated the idea of picking up Casey Hampton last year when he was apparently going to be cut. turns out he had a pretty nice season with the Steelers.

I dont see what the problem is with signing Pat Williams to a 1-2 year deal. We have a bunch of cash to spend.

At worst hes depth, at best hes the player we need in the middle for a year or two while Powe hopefully develops.. Its our most glaring need IMO you do what ever you can to fill it.

beach tribe 07-24-2011 02:03 AM

Damn, I am so pumped to see who we go after. It seems as though players throughout the league have come to the conclusion that we are on the cusp of big things. Really makes me believe we are going to sign quite a few solid veterans in the Pioli/Patriots mold, and it's really going to strengthen the shit out of this team. We've got a ton of young talent. If we fill out our roster, and plug the big holes, we could very well be going DEEP into the playoffs.

kysirsoze 07-24-2011 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 7767305)
Damn, I am so pumped to see who we go after. It seems as though players throughout the league have come to the conclusion that we are on the cusp of big things. Really makes me believe we are going to sign quite a few solid veterans in the Pioli/Patriots mold, and it's really going to strengthen the shit out of this team. We've got a ton of young talent. If we fill out our roster, and plug the big holes, we could very well be going DEEP into the playoffs.

http://chanarchive.org/content/52_a/...8442250498.jpg

milkman 07-24-2011 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 7767286)
I thought somebody had been talking about trying to acquire him one way or another, now that I think about it, I am confusing him with Paul Soliai, who Milk had been talking about making a deal for. I'll edit my post.

I have actually mentioned Pouha before, but I assumed that he would more than likely re-sign with the Jets.

Soliai, I thought might hit the open market, but that useless bastard didn't even give the open market a second thought.

RedThat 07-24-2011 11:14 AM

I'd have mixed feelings about this move.

#1. He is old. And would probably only play 20-25 snaps a game max.

#2. He has to go through the transition of playing from a 4-3 DT to 3-4 NT. Big difference there. Not exactly sure if he would provide good mentorship for the young guys? And Im only saying that because he would have to learn and adjust to a new position/scheme and doesn't necessarily have the experience of a 3-4 NT. So how is it possible to teach them?


*But, on the other hand, we'd be getting a good veteran and proven run stuffer that can be very useful in 3rd and 1/short yardage situations. I'd be in favor of this move only if the Chiefs were running a hybrid type defense. So Im leaning more towards a "no"...But he would be good to have because he could give Crennel more options on defense. I'd rather develop a young guy or sign Franklin instead. Besides, stopping the run wasn't a team weakness anyway? So passing on Pat Williams is no biggie.

boogblaster 07-24-2011 11:51 AM

really we need bout 4 NT to run in rotation .. if able to get some cheap .. get em ....

MDHQ 07-25-2011 07:21 AM

Williams is up there, does he even want to play in 2012?

Sofa King 07-25-2011 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MDHQ (Post 7769352)
Williams is up there, does he even want to play in 2012?

did you even read the article?

Rausch 07-25-2011 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 7767305)
Damn, I am so pumped to see who we go after. It seems as though players throughout the league have come to the conclusion that we are on the cusp of big things. Really makes me believe we are going to sign quite a few solid veterans in the Pioli/Patriots mold, and it's really going to strengthen the shit out of this team. We've got a ton of young talent. If we fill out our roster, and plug the big holes, we could very well be going DEEP into the playoffs.

It doesn't hurt that there's 2 really $#itty teams in the division that don't look to be playoff competitive any time soon...

Hammock Parties 07-25-2011 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7769403)
It doesn't hurt that there's 2 really $#itty teams in the division that don't look to be playoff competitive any time soon...

Unfortunately the Raiders are a better team than the Chiefs.

Rausch 07-25-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7769436)
Unfortunately the Raiders are a better team than the Chiefs.

No, the Raiders have (much) more talent than the Chiefs.

They change coaches every 2 years, have no one even close to resembling a QB, and only manage to play half-assed-respectable in division games.

keg in kc 07-25-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Red 5 (Post 7769436)
Unfortunately the Raiders are a better team than the Chiefs.

They might be if they didn't change coaching staffs every 3 months.

Thank you, Al.

Rausch 07-25-2011 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7769440)
They might be if they didn't change coaching staffs every 3 months.

Thank you, Al.

Wolf pack...LMAO

keg in kc 07-25-2011 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7769441)
Wolf pack...LMAO

WTF is going on this morning?

Rausch 07-25-2011 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7769461)
WTF is going on this morning?

:LOL:

Skyy God 07-25-2011 01:55 PM

FIVE VETERANS WITH SOMETHING LEFT IN THE TANK

Pat Williams took a step backwards at 37 last season, but it was from very lofty heights; Minnesota still ranked eighth against the run by DVOA, and Williams still contributed seven tackles for a loss or no gain. Some smart team is going to bring him in and spot his snaps effectively, and they'll get a great run-stuffing tackle as a result.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...scrambling-act

BigCatDaddy 07-25-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pittsie (Post 7770280)
FIVE VETERANS WITH SOMETHING LEFT IN THE TANK

Pat Williams took a step backwards at 37 last season, but it was from very lofty heights; Minnesota still ranked eighth against the run by DVOA, and Williams still contributed seven tackles for a loss or no gain. Some smart team is going to bring him in and spot his snaps effectively, and they'll get a great run-stuffing tackle as a result.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...scrambling-act

Also from that link LMAO

FIVE BANDWAGONS TO JUMP OFF



Shaun Smith is the Vinnie Jones of (American) football, just without the comedic turns in Guy Ritchie movies. First, it was getting into a fistfight with Brady Quinn when they were both on the Browns. Last year, he was accused of junk-grabbery by two different offensive linemen in consecutive weeks. Around the league, he's regarded as one of the game's biggest shit-talkers, which says a lot in a league full of shit-talkers. He's already received one steroid suspension. This all wouldn't be a problem if he was any good, but Smith's just a big body without any history of production. At least Jones won an FA Cup

michaelj_58 07-25-2011 02:27 PM

take Williams and go after Franklin,that will be our interior d line this year,sign tamba too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Skyy God 07-25-2011 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelj_58 (Post 7770430)
take Williams and go after Franklin,that will be our interior d line this year,sign tamba too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Put down the crack pipe.

Easy 6 07-25-2011 06:06 PM

Reasonably healthy & properly motivated, Pat could be Ted Washington 2.0 for us.

Let him eat space on run downs for 2 years while Powe learns the ropes, he'll be cheaper than Aubrayo Franklin as well.

OnTheWarpath15 07-25-2011 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 7771500)
Reasonably healthy & properly motivated, Pat could be Ted Washington 2.0 for us.

Let him eat space on run downs for 2 years while Powe learns the ropes, he'll be cheaper than Aubrayo Franklin as well.

He should be cheaper, he's only going to play 12 games at most.

Easy 6 07-25-2011 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7771505)
He should be cheaper, he's only going to play 12 games at most.

I'd be ok with 12 games, as long as they're strong ones. He'd help take a ton of pressure off our younger guys & give them a real pro to learn from.

aturnis 07-25-2011 06:29 PM

Let Powe play against poor running teams, or teams with weak interior lines?


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