Wasn't indicated, didn't ask. I was sitting in a restaurant eating dinner. Chiefs/Rams was being replayed. I jokingly offered to make a wager on the outcome of the game assuming she didn't know it was a replay of Friday night. Lady volunteered all the information to me. I didn't identify myself at all. She just put the story out there as her reason for not attending Chiefs games this year. She was there, happened to one of her friends right in front of her. Seemed too elaborate to be fabricated to me. But what do I know?

If he didn't do anything wrong he will be watched more?

If this is completely false, then we are back to normal. He shouldn't be watched more for something he didn't do.

Phobia has turned himself into Gochiefs and has just trolled the whole board

I don't think his reputation will be impacted either way unless the rumor grows legs. Professional reporters who have the resources to check this out will run it down.

You've "known" me for 7 years. You think that's my style?

Someone who works at the Cigar Box told you this? Or did I not follow this correctly?

A patron who was there during the alleged incident. It happened to one of her girlfriends.

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In that case, recently, could mean sometime this last month or even during the lock out this summer. It could have all ready been swept under the rug EXEPT for not paying off this lady for her big mouth.

If she orgamsed should Haley not be disciplined?

Any idea if the media already knows?

E: Looks like I should read the OP better. This story should grow legs as that's a pretty hefty accusation.

I see.

Hmm. It's very possible this lady might be gullible or just may not know what Haley looks like. Maybe it was just some drunk asshole, calling himself Todd Haley after he was getting arrested for touching some woman.

He's been hanging around Lil' Wayne too much.

The lady said there were players there. She did not identify the players.

My only thought is, I don't give a shit what Todd does as long as he wins games for the Chiefs, and keeps us pointed in the right direction. So far he's done that. We'll find out if any of this is true soon enough if we hear shit.

The chiefs cant stop a baldwin jones fight from coming out and you really think they can cover this up?

She prob didn't know what the players looked like.

Sounds like bullshit.

It's more of the "I heard this from someone I don't know who was volunteering info to you who you didn't identify yourself to(to be honest, I dont know you but based off of experience here you're not JoPo or represent yourself as a reporter) but it feels like you're posting something that I think you were hesitant to post but did to try to stir some shit up

She's a STH. She's well-connected to the team in other ways that I won't reveal right now. I assure you that she's credible. Otherwise, you wouldn't be reading this.

There are limits. For example... Haley gets a speeding ticket for 120 on the highway. No biggie. I wouldn't, though, tolerate a head coach that beats his wife or abuses his kids. Or fondled random waitresses for that matter.

Pioli was also there. He's the one who dared Haley to do it
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See, that makes it interesting because we know that Coach Haley was recently at a concert with (at least) Brandon Flowers. It would make sense for them to have gone out to a bar that night. Not that I think any of this is true... just interesting at 2 in the morning.

If hoping that legitimate media members of this community will dig this story up to disprove or validate = stirring it up then I'm guilty as charged. Yes, I'm hesitant to post it. But it's not like the info came from Suzy crack whore. It's not like I fabricated it. Frankly, if anybody is going to fabricate something I'll bet they could do a better job. Shouldn't be too hard for a reporter who is paid to dig to find out if Haley was cuffed at this establishment.

I agree, that's a bit different. And from the story it sounds more like he tried to make a move on a woman more than fondled anyone. If any of this story is true, I'm ok with it as long as it doesn't effect my team. But no, I wouldn't want a drug addict, or abuser to be the head coach.

WTF are people getting arrested for anything now a days? Seriously who hasn't pulled the old center gag at a bar? You sneak up behind a girl put your hands between her legs and yell 'Hut Hut HIKE!'. It's an outstanding icebreaker and something that a girl is not likely to forget. Unlike most openings this is one that only rarely do you not see the chick later.

Thought this was funny/fitting. From a fake Todd Haley account.

Would seem like a career ender for whoever reports it.

She asked for it, anyone wearing short skirts is begging for that kind of attention.

BTW if Haley gets jail time does that enhance his street cred and help him relate to his players better? For all we know this could jut be part of his plan to get Baldwin to listen to him.

Well, it's not going to be a Chiefs beat reporter, that's for sure. Could also be a career enhancer for a reporter as well.

Don't ever start rumors at 1 in the morning again dammit. Now I wont go to sleep til 4.

I blame Thomas Jones.

If true, this will officially prove to me that the Chiefs have some sort of curse.

**** the shut up "n00b"

So this is all something a stranger (?) said to you umprompted?

I spoke to her about various things off and on while awaiting my food for about 20 minutes. I've seen her in this restaurant previously. I've spoken to her previously though just in passing. This was the first time we had what I would term "a conversation".

This thread is ****ing stupid.

I dunno if you have lived under a rock for too long but every woman is Suzy crack whore when you mix in a little alcohol.

I've heard Haley's played the "do you know who I am" card previously.

He's kind of a dick.

In before the lock

We definitely don't need this,better be a rumor!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obviously just an educated guess but with cell phones, cell phone cameras, security cameras, a bar full of people and a scored woman the Chiefs wouldn't be able to cover this up if they wanted.

There's nothing in the news yet and this would have been broken faster than you can say "Larry Johnson".

Im not buying this one bit. I think its b.s.

The Cigar Box
 

For out of towners not familiar with the Cigar Box.

Cigar Box is shady as hell. I stop in every now and then. lol.

There's Al Latta shit being talked about you, Haley.

Ha, good one!:thumb:

He's kind of a big deal.

ROFLROFL

I go to Cigar Box every Thursday night (play with a band at Czar Bar next door, and cigar box is open till 3). There are usually about 3 or 4 off duty strippers sitting at the bar, getting hit on by caveman/frat boys. Drinks are also expensive, and the waitress isn't very friendly. But we all go every Thursday anyway... kinda tradition now. Ill ask around about this.

They are arresting people for copping a feel now? Yikes need to be more careful :)

YESSSS!!! mcan is on the case!

As per KC Chiefs policy, the Chiefs will be handling this inside the family.

Phil, your part of the media. Why just throw " word of mouth rumours" out there like this instead of digging and confirming? Your smart. This all feels calculated for whatever reason. For what i have no idea....

Great, just great. I'd discount this story if there wasn't the part of Haley getting cuffed. That's verifiable if true. On the other hand, everyone does have a camera now as has been mentioned. If this story has legs, what a terrible cloud there will be hanging over the season.

He put out all the info he had in a transparent way.

People are free to do with it what they like.

So a woman at the cigar box got felt up and called the police? I'm not buying it.

I could care less about Haley. I'm just bummed a guy can't jam his unwanted hand up a lakdies skirt anymore.

Meh. If he was Belichick, she woulda let him keep his hand up there. ;)

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/gallery..._belichick.jpg

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You're right. I'm getting back at Todd for those awful Preseason performances.

I had an unwanted hand back in the early 90's. Didn't know how to get rid of it. I always figured some gal might want it, and what better place to hide it than up her skirt. I see no problem here at all.

Only if charges were filed and nothing is on there ----------- yet

Sounds like an "Al Davis" firing with cause setup. Maybe Clark Hunt is not happy about the teams record

Nope. Just checked myself.

I would think that, if there were any truth to this rumor, there would be something about it on the internet by now, whether it be a story, tweet, facebook status, etc. No way something like this gets sat on for over eight hours.

If an NFL head coach was cuffed ANYWHERE in public it would have been tweeted in seconds. Not buying this.

Aren't there bouncers there to handle unwanted grabbing?

This was my thought as well. This type of thing blows up quick anymore. That said Phobia is not the type to post something like this unless he thought it had some sort of basis~

I'm not buying it either. I wouldn't doubt at all that someone got felt up (probably a stripper) by SOMEONE. And I also wouldn't doubt if that someone (a fratboy douche who was there to try to hook up with a stripper) got smacked. But I'm guessing that this waitress might also be confused and/or embellishing. I can't see Haley hanging out there, honestly. There is no way he lives near there and it's kinda far from the stadium, and it's right next to "Temptations" that has a HUGE neon sign that says "TOTALLY NUDE."

No way he risks his reputation to even go near there, let alone go in there by himself, get drunk, and feel up a rando girl. If just one picture is taken of him on the SIDEWALK outside of Cigar Box, its on the crawl on ESPN within 24 hours.

There would be next door. But not at Cigar Box. It's a smoking bar next door.

And for what it's worth, I think the girl Phobia spoke to probably BELIEVES what she's saying. She's probably just wrong. It's an artsy crowd who wouldn't know Todd Haley from Todd McNair.

cool avatar~

I've had it up since the day he passed. Just can't seem to take it down. Don't post as much since I've been primarily using the internet on my phone over the last two years. Now I've got my laptop set up at my new place and time to kill... CHIEFSPLANET, here I come. Time wasting... Ahh... My old friend.

Dude you are awesome!

You post a rumor you heard from someone else and you have no first hand knowledge of.

You then state you expect the Chiefs to cover it up before it hits any media, meaning if we don't hear about it is because the Chiefs squashed it, not because it never happened and this is all bullshit.

Way to try to cover your ass on a bunch of BS.:spock:

I would agree with others in this thread and say this would be exceptionally hard to completely cover up so If it doesn't hit media, it never happened.

Like this thread should have never happened.

Well I am forced to concede to the August 2000 join date. I will change mine to honor seniority~

Not necessary. For a Raider fan, you have good taste in comedians. and I appreciate the props. Used to be a kcstar board guy and heard about the "migration" a little late, otherwise I'd have moved first day the board was open.

I went with one of my old favorites :)

I don't care if it happened, or didn't happen, but I'm with Phobia on the NFL's ability to hush these things up.

When Plax shot himself NFL security did a great job slamming the lid on all news. A day after the incident the NYPD still didn't know anything, the hospital didn't report the shooting as they are required by law, etc.

He is my favorite comedian, social observer. I enjoyed him to the very end even when many thought he became too dark~

Coach Haley denies fondling. He was simply waving at her genitals.