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chris 09-07-2011 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 7884030)
So we can't talk about anything then? We can't talk about player eval because we're not a GM. We can't talk about any of the coaches because we've never been a coach. We can't talk about Cassel because none of us have ever been an NFL QB.

STFU and get back under the table.
Lame

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7884346)
He only has two.

1. HERM SUX0RS!!!!!!
2. LEAVE MATT CASSEL ALONE!!!!
1. Welcome to 3 years ago... Way to be on top of your game..

2. Agian, I could careless if Cassel is the QB or not. He isnt the future of this franchise no matter how many times you tell me he is... (see I can accuse you of false shit too)...

Direckshun 09-07-2011 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7884014)
2009: F. Bad draft. Firing OC 2 weeks before the season. Haley over his head. DC that didn't fit.

2010: A. Good draft. Hired 2 very good coordinators. Team overachieves and makes playoffs.

2011: Inc.
This.

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7884343)
What opinion?
that one..

Fish 09-07-2011 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7884338)
Bring about as much as you do... So whats your point?

I really dont give a shit if you care about my opinion or not... Makes zero difference in your life or mine...
Yes... every 4th or 5th post of yours reminds us just how little you care...

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7884395)
Yes... every 4th or 5th post of yours reminds us just how little you care...
:deevee:

Reerun doesnt care....


:deevee:


and I dont care the you thought Herm didnt get a fair shake in the end either...

:thumb:

Mr. Laz 09-07-2011 10:49 AM
Pioli gets a B+ because he turned the Chiefs around faster than any of us thought he would. He's a really good talent evaluator, which bodes well for use long term.

He does have his weaknesses

1. Haley - i'm not sure about him at all. He could turn into Goonther Cunningham in a heartbeat imo.

2. Slow mover - maybe his strength and his weakness. He is just not going to be reckless about things and that also means he will miss a few chances.

3. Free agency - also a strength and a weakness. He won't go nuts and screw shit up in free agency. But he also going to miss out on some real chances to gain talent because he just doesn't believe that Free Agency is generally worth the risk.

OnTheWarpath15 09-07-2011 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7884508)
Pioli gets a B+ because he turned the Chiefs around faster than any of us thought he would.
Just playing Devil's Advocate, no need for some of you to get your panties in a bunch, but...

Has he officially "turned this team around?"

What if this team goes 6-10 or 7-9 this year?

Rooster 09-07-2011 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7884519)
Just playing Devil's Advocate, no need for some of you to get your panties in a bunch, but...

Has he officially "turned this team around?"

What if this team goes 6-10 or 7-9 this year?
IMO that is a very real possibility.

HemiEd 09-07-2011 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7884519)
Just playing Devil's Advocate, no need for some of you to get your panties in a bunch, but...

Has he officially "turned this team around?"

What if this team goes 6-10 or 7-9 this year?
I can honestly see that happening with this schedule, and this QB. But, even at 7-9, it is heading in the right direction with all this young talent.

whoman69 09-07-2011 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by chris (Post 7884350)
Lame
Tell me why we're here then. Are we all just supposed to be cheerleaders. Put on your skirt, missy, and go back to the sidelines.

Chiefnj2 09-07-2011 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7884560)
I can honestly see that happening with this schedule, and this QB. But, even at 7-9, it is heading in the right direction with all this young talent.
IMO 7-9 is not heading in the right direction (barring unforeseen injuries).

OnTheWarpath15 09-07-2011 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7884560)
I can honestly see that happening with this schedule, and this QB. But, even at 7-9, it is heading in the right direction with all this young talent.
If this team has as much talent as some of you claim (not specifically you, Ed) this team should win at least 9 games.

You can't ignore the schedule in 2010 and then use it as an excuse in 2011.

King_Chief_Fan 09-07-2011 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7884519)
Just playing Devil's Advocate, no need for some of you to get your panties in a bunch, but...

Has he officially "turned this team around?"

What if this team goes 6-10 or 7-9 this year?
tougher schedule and growing pains with rookies cause me to think it could be as you indicated

Mr. Laz 09-07-2011 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7884519)
Just playing Devil's Advocate, no need for some of you to get your panties in a bunch, but...

Has he officially "turned this team around?"

What if this team goes 6-10 or 7-9 this year?
we have no idea what is going to happen in the future. If you take that into consideration then every grade for Pioli will be incomplete until the team actually wins the super bowl.

When Pioli inherited the team it was heading down and had won 4 games iirc. Two years with Pioli and the team is heading up and won 10 games and a division.

I consider that turning it around.

We don't know if that success will continue but this is a grade request not a prediction request.


btw i've already said the Chiefs could actually be a better team this year and end up with a worse record because of the SOS. I was hammered for it but i still believe it.

Chiefnj2 09-07-2011 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7884565)
If this team has as much talent as some of you claim (not specifically you, Ed) this team should win at least 9 games.

You can't ignore the schedule in 2010 and then use it as an excuse in 2011.
Exactly. I hate this built in schedule excuse. Good teams beat other good teams.

OnTheWarpath15 09-07-2011 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7884574)
I hate this built in schedule excuse. Good teams beat other good teams.
This. A million times this.

HemiEd 09-07-2011 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7884565)
If this team has as much talent as some of you claim (not specifically you, Ed) this team should win at least 9 games.

You can't ignore the schedule in 2010 and then use it as an excuse in 2011.
The schedule was very soft last year, anyone that says different has their head buried in the sand.

Give me the NFC West every year please, 40% of the team's win total. They may not win a single game against the NFC this year, it would not surprise me.

So that right there could be the difference between 10-6 and 6-10.

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7884578)
This. A million times this.
Agreed...

OnTheWarpath15 09-07-2011 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7884582)
The schedule was very soft last year, anyone that says different has their head buried in the sand.

Give me the NFC West every year please, 40% of the team's win total. They may not win a single game against the NFC this year, it would not surprise me.

So that right there could be the difference between 10-6 and 6-10.
As NJ said, good teams beat other good teams.

If this team has as much talent as some people think, and are "turned around" as others think, there's no reason to win fewer than 9 games.

milkman 09-07-2011 11:20 AM
I think the talent on this roster is capable of competing with most of the teams in the league.

67% of games last season were decided by a touchdown or less.

That's one or two plays a game that decide the outcome.

This team's fortunes, as I've said numerous times, lies squarely on Cassel.

The plays he makes, or fails to make, could be the difference between 10-6 or 6-10.

HemiEd 09-07-2011 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7884574)
Exactly. I hate this built in schedule excuse. Good teams beat other good teams.
It was not meant as an excuse, sorry you took it that way.

If you think this team is good enough, and are far enough along for the schedule not to matter, I do not. They got 4 wins last year, that could be 4 losses this year.

Are they headed in the right direction? Yes, but they are sure not elite yet.

They are not Pittsburgh, New England, San Diego, or Green Bay.

***Matt Cassel***

the Talking Can 09-07-2011 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7884598)
It was not meant as an excuse, sorry you took it that way.

If you think this team is good enough, and are far enough along for the schedule not to matter, I do not. They got 4 wins last year, that could be 4 losses this year.

Are they headed in the right direction? Yes, but they are sure not elite yet.

They are not Pittsburgh, New England, San Diego, or Green Bay.

the only real difference is at QB....but we're not supposed to talk about that


point is, as milkman said, this season comes down to Cassel...if he's the superstar that reerun and that weirdo pats fan says he is, then we're fine...

Mr. Laz 09-07-2011 11:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7884574)
Exactly. I hate this built in schedule excuse. Good teams beat other good teams.
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7884578)
This. A million times this.
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7884585)
Agreed...
this is the biggest twisted piece of crap ever

'good' is an extremely relative term

Houston is a good team but saying that winning against them is the same as winning against the Steelers is just plain stupid.

every year in the NFL there are 8 or so elite teams that will get their wins no matter what. There are also around 8 crappy teams that aren't going to make it regardless. The rest of the teams in the league have their win/loss record go up and down based on SOS.

So technically yes "good teams win no matter what" but only the elite type teams.

There is huge grey area around that statement.

The Chiefs are NOT elite yet so they can still be a better team than last year and have a worse record because of their SOS.

HemiEd 09-07-2011 11:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7884603)
the only real difference is at QB....but we're not supposed to talk about that


point is, as milkman said, this season comes down to Cassel...if he's the superstar that reerun and that weirdo pats fan says he is, then we're fine...
Agreed, and as per my previous posts, I went back and put Cassel in stars on the post you quoted.

If only he could play like he did in Seattle last year, that was almost like a fantasy coming true. The team was obviously there all along, Cassel was clearly the difference.

I must admit though, he looked pretty good up in Green Bay after a couple series. Bowe was just sick though, catching everything in the general area.

HemiEd 09-07-2011 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7884620)
this is the biggest twisted piece of crap ever

'good' is an extremely relative term

Houston is a good team but saying that winning against them is the same as winning against the Steelers is just plain stupid.

every year in the NFL there are 8 or so elite teams that will get their wins no matter what. There are also around 8 crappy teams that aren't going to make it regardless. The rest of the teams in the league have their win/loss record go up and down based on SOS.

So technically yes "good teams win no matter what" but only the elite type teams.

There is huge grey area around that statement.

The Chiefs are NOT elite yet so they can still be a better team than last year and have a worse record because of their SOS.
This! A thousand times this! This is what I was trying to say.

milkman 09-07-2011 11:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7884620)
this is the biggest twisted piece of crap ever

'good' is an extremely relative term

Houston is a good team but saying that winning against them is the same as winning against the Steelers is just plain stupid.

every year in the NFL there are 8 or so elite teams that will get their wins no matter what. There are also around 8 crappy teams that aren't going to make it regardless. The rest of the teams in the league have their win/loss record go up and down based on SOS.

So technically yes "good teams win no matter what" but only the elite type teams.

There is huge grey area around that statement.

The Chiefs are NOT elite yet so they can still be a better team than last year and have a worse record because of their SOS.
I think there's only 3 elite teams.

Green Bay, Pittsburg and New England.

Bewbies 09-07-2011 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7884594)
I think the talent on this roster is capable of competing with most of the teams in the league.

67% of games last season were decided by a touchdown or less.

That's one or two plays a game that decide the outcome.

This team's fortunes, as I've said numerous times, lies squarely on Cassel.

The plays he makes, or fails to make, could be the difference between 10-6 or 6-10.
Bingo.

Chief Faithful 09-07-2011 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7884336)
I agree with you for the most part, as mentioned in my first post in this thread. And I have said it many times before, including the first draft thread.

But that being said, to only hit on Mr. Irrelevant is below what almost anyone on this board would have done, by just reading the draftabulator posts.

I am sure Pioli cashed his paycheck that week, so he does need to take some of the responsibility IMO for that draft failure. It will always be part of his body of work.
Yeah, it was a bad draft, yet it was still better than many of the Peterson era drafts plus, 2009 has proven to be a bad draft for many teams. You are right, Pioli owns the 2009 draft, but I don't think it is a good representation of what we will see in the future. I believe the 2010 &11 drafts are a better representation. Under Pioli and the new scouting department they just seem to be more prepared and informed. Plus, they are not looking for the best talent they are looking for the right talent, which tells me they have a template. Scouting can me much easier when you know what you are looking to find.

Mr. Laz 09-07-2011 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7884631)
I think there's only 3 elite teams.

Green Bay, Pittsburg and New England.
fair enough ... but the concept still stands

Good =/= Elite

Elite teams get their wins no matter the schedule but everyone else is effected in various degrees by their SOS.

Chief Faithful 09-07-2011 11:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7884594)
I think the talent on this roster is capable of competing with most of the teams in the league.

67% of games last season were decided by a touchdown or less.

That's one or two plays a game that decide the outcome.

This team's fortunes, as I've said numerous times, lies squarely on Cassel.

The plays he makes, or fails to make, could be the difference between 10-6 or 6-10.
To me the ability of Cassel to make plays is only half the equation. I believe Haley when he says the team is not at the point where it can make mistakes and still win.

boogblaster 09-07-2011 11:54 AM
he's try'n ... hopefully he gets it done ....

Chiefnj2 09-07-2011 11:58 AM
People say the Packers are elite, yet they finished 10-6 and lost to teams like the Skins and Dolphins.

In your third year of a rebuild you should have turned a corner and you should be able to beat some playoff teams. If they can only beat sub .500 teams, then they haven't turned the corner and realistically aren't any better than the Herm Edward's Chiefs.

milkman 09-07-2011 11:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 7884660)
To me the ability of Cassel to make plays is only half the equation. I believe Haley when he says the team is not at the point where it can make mistakes and still win.
I think that's true for all but the elite teams.

And it's still true for them, just to a lesser extent.

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 12:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7884603)
the only real difference is at QB....but we're not supposed to talk about that


point is, as milkman said, this season comes down to Cassel...if he's the superstar that reerun and that weirdo pats fan says he is, then we're fine...

Holy shit this day just gets better and better...

Now Cassel is superstar? Oh please please find the post where I have said this...

Otherwise your nothing more than a talking head like your boy Herm...

milkman 09-07-2011 12:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7884679)
People say the Packers are elite, yet they finished 10-6 and lost to teams like the Skins and Dolphins.

In your third year of a rebuild you should have turned a corner and you should be able to beat some playoff teams. If they can only beat sub .500 teams, then they haven't turned the corner and realistically aren't any better than the Herm Edward's Chiefs.
The Pack lost 16 players (I think) to injury at some point during last season.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-07-2011 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7884582)
The schedule was very soft last year, anyone that says different has their head buried in the sand.

Give me the NFC West every year please, 40% of the team's win total. They may not win a single game against the NFC this year, it would not surprise me.

So that right there could be the difference between 10-6 and 6-10.
and???? It sure the hell beats losing to those same shitty teams. If Oakland had swept the NFC West, they'd have been division champs, same goes for the Bolts. No game is a gimme in the NFL. I'm as much tired as the "tough schedule" BS as I am the "weak schedule" one. You play who your dealt and take care of business.

morphius 09-07-2011 12:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7884620)
this is the biggest twisted piece of crap ever

'good' is an extremely relative term

Houston is a good team but saying that winning against them is the same as winning against the Steelers is just plain stupid.

every year in the NFL there are 8 or so elite teams that will get their wins no matter what. There are also around 8 crappy teams that aren't going to make it regardless. The rest of the teams in the league have their win/loss record go up and down based on SOS.

So technically yes "good teams win no matter what" but only the elite type teams.

There is huge grey area around that statement.

The Chiefs are NOT elite yet so they can still be a better team than last year and have a worse record because of their SOS.
The way I look at it is as simple as we only have 2 games different than everyone else in the AFC West, that's it. If we beat the second place AFC West team twice that makes up for any disadvantage we have in the 2 possibly harder games.

the Talking Can 09-07-2011 12:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7884689)
Holy shit this day just gets better and better...

Now Cassel is superstar? Oh please please find the post where I have said this...

Otherwise your nothing more than a talking head like your boy Herm...
you're the king butt hurt Cassel white knight....you own that


and the truth remains...the only difference between us and those "good" teams is QB...

if Brady played for us, and Cassel played for New England...we'd be the 'good' team...same for Rothelessburger...same for Green Bay...same for anyone

but thankfully, according to you, Cassel is awesome...so we're Golden

Chiefnj2 09-07-2011 12:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7884713)

and the truth remains...the only difference between us and those "good" teams is QB...
A better QB can cure everything. TJax will be a force against the run, WRs will get open, Richardson won't be a swinging gate, short yardage runs won't be stuffed, etc.

milkman 09-07-2011 12:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7884723)
A better QB can cure everything. TJax will be a force against the run, WRs will get open, Richardson won't be a swinging gate, short yardage runs won't be stuffed, etc.
What was the Patriot defensive ranking last year?

Who was their RT?

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 12:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7884594)
I think the talent on this roster is capable of competing with most of the teams in the league.

67% of games last season were decided by a touchdown or less.

That's one or two plays a game that decide the outcome.

This team's fortunes, as I've said numerous times, lies squarely on Cassel.

The plays he makes, or fails to make, could be the difference between 10-6 or 6-10.
Most of it does rely on Cassel, I dont argue that. But I do argue that this team cant afford mistakes and still win...

IE the Indy game last year... Being at that game, We were very competitive, but take away Charles fumbles, Bowes TD drop and DJ's dropped pick six and its a totally different game.

That was a perfect example of not being able to over come mistakes... But over the course of the year, most of the critical situations comes down to Cassel.

At this point to me its the glass half full with Cassel, It could be better and it could be so much worse.

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 12:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7884713)
you're the king butt hurt Cassel white knight....you own that


and the truth remains...the only difference between us and those "good" teams is QB...

if Brady played for us, and Cassel played for New England...we'd be the 'good' team...same for Rothelessburger...same for Green Bay...same for anyone

but thankfully, according to you, Cassel is awesome...so we're Golden
:clap: Dude you are on a roll today...

Now I am Cassels White Knight?

:LOL:

and since you are adding racism to your posts, does this make you Herms Black Knight?

Pasta Little Brioni 09-07-2011 12:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7884728)
What was the Patriot defensive ranking last year?

Who was their RT?
To add to that...boy that Packer run game sure was fearsome as well as thier O-line play.

milkman 09-07-2011 12:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PGM (Post 7884744)
To add to that...boy that Packer run game sure was fearsome as well as thier O-line play.
Right.

Bottom line is this.

A good QB can't cure everything, but he can mask a lot of deficiencies, and in this era of parody and salary caps, every team has holes.

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7884750)
Right.

Bottom line is this.

A good QB can't cure everything, but he can mask a lot of deficiencies, and in this era of parody and salary caps, every team has holes.
Thats why there are only a handful of great teams, then there is everybody else..

Either you have one of the top few QB's or youre just another team...

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 12:24 PM
And right now, KC is just another team...

HemiEd 09-07-2011 12:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 7884646)
Yeah, it was a bad draft, yet it was still better than many of the Peterson era drafts plus, 2009 has proven to be a bad draft for many teams. You are right, Pioli owns the 2009 draft, but I don't think it is a good representation of what we will see in the future. I believe the 2010 &11 drafts are a better representation. Under Pioli and the new scouting department they just seem to be more prepared and informed. Plus, they are not looking for the best talent they are looking for the right talent, which tells me they have a template. Scouting can me much easier when you know what you are looking to find.
Can't argue with that. Also, this year told me that they really do have a plan, instead of just doing the "cookie cutter" plan of getting a bunch of nice young men together (team captains). It showed me that they built a core of leaders, and good guys, and are willing to add some questionable high value/high ceiling guys, that aren't choir boys.

I love what is going on, and am still firmly on the bandwagon for the 43rd year.

But people that think playing Green Bay is the same as playing Arizona puzzle me. It is not the same, and should not be graded the same.

Bump 09-07-2011 12:41 PM
I wouldn't say Baldwin is anywhere near the athletic ability of Fitzgerald. Fitz will be top 10 of all time with shitty quarterbacks (except an old Kurt Warner).

the Talking Can 09-07-2011 12:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7884735)
:clap: Dude you are on a roll today...

Now I am Cassels White Knight?

:LOL:

and since you are adding racism to your posts, does this make you Herms Black Knight?
?

do you drink?

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7884805)
?

do you drink?
Yes but not at work....:thumb:

How about you? You a beer man or a Whiskey man?

the Talking Can 09-07-2011 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7884812)
Yes but not at work....:thumb:

How about you? You a beer man or a Whiskey man?
oh..you don't know what white knight means....got it


i was wondering how dumb someone had to be, to find it racist...now i know

HemiEd 09-07-2011 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 7884802)
I wouldn't say Baldwin is anywhere near the athletic ability of Fitzgerald. Fitz will be top 10 of all time with shitty quarterbacks (except an old Kurt Warner).
Seeing Bowe in person, last week in Green Bay, gave me a lot of confidence in what Haley can do with a WR.

I know, woulda and shoulda etc. , but Bowe was nails in that game, that was decided and given away by 5 stupid turnovers. None of those were his fault, and he made the tackle, after running the guy down from behind, that picked up a Jamaal Charles fumble.

I think this team is just fine in the WR department, and I don't recall ever being able to say that. They may be able to overcome Cassel's 20% target rate.

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 12:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7884821)
oh..you don't know what white knight means....got it


i was wondering how dumb someone had to be, to find it racist...now i know

:facepalm:

Well that pretty much left me speachless... I dont have anything to say, nor can I help you out here anymore.

It was fun while it lasted... PM me your address and I will send you some new batteries for your sarcasm meter...

Mr. Laz 09-07-2011 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by morphius (Post 7884704)
The way I look at it is as simple as we only have 2 games different than everyone else in the AFC West, that's it. If we beat the second place AFC West team twice that makes up for any disadvantage we have in the 2 possibly harder games.
That still doesn't change the discussion about the Chiefs overall record being worse but the team being better this year.

I imagine the records in the AFC West are going to be lower as a hole this year.

anything can happen, but i see the Chargers as the only team with double digit wins in the AFCW this year. Only because i think they have finally had enough with underachieving label every year.

notorious 09-07-2011 01:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7884735)
Now I am Cassels White Knight?

:LOL:

1. You are White.


2. You slay dragons and save damsels in distress.

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7884853)
1. You are White.


2. You slay dragons and save damsels in distress.

:huh:

1. Dont be a racist

2. I dont play World of Warcraft online... Just by myself.....


:LOL:

Dang it. You are just making me feel stupid...

notorious 09-07-2011 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7884863)
:huh:

1. Dont be a racist

2. I dont play World of Warcraft online... Just by myself.....


:LOL:

Dang it. You are just making me feel stupid...

:D

Pasta Little Brioni 09-07-2011 01:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7884863)
:huh:

1. Dont be a racist

2. I dont play World of Warcraft online... Just by myself.....


:LOL:

Dang it. You are just making me feel stupid...
Herm has a level 40 paladin, just so you know.

Reerun_KC 09-07-2011 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 7884872)
Herm has a level 40 paladin, just so you know.
LOL

FYI I dont play WOW or anything like that.. I was using sarcasm...

morphius 09-07-2011 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7884832)
That still doesn't change the discussion about the Chiefs overall record being worse but the team being better this year.

I imagine the records in the AFC West are going to be lower as a hole this year.

anything can happen, but i see the Chargers as the only team with double digit wins in the AFCW this year. Only because i think they have finally had enough with underachieving label every year.
It would take an exceptional level of whiner to complain if our record is worse but we still win the division.

I'm not expecting that we will, 'cause I've learned that going in with low expectations numbs the pain :D


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