I'm just glad they rulled out Dingo's

Wonder if his work record checks out? If their was a fight between parents before abduction?

I disagree.

If I were the parent, I could give a shit about the Perp, I would just want my Child back. The parent is pleading, saying that they're not asking that you turn yourself in, just give us our Child.

Their line of thought is the same as what mine would be. All i want is my kid and that's all that matters right now. Drop her off and run for Mexico for all I care, just give me back my child.

I saw the interview this morning.

I wouldn't have described his demeanor as calm, I would describe it as "trying to hold your shit together on national tv and not cracking causing your wife to freak out"


They followed up the "drop her off anywhere" with a list of places like churches, fire station, police station, hospital...."

it's pretty easy to get scatterbrained under extreme stress. Hell, try balancing the checkbook with 3 kids crying or playing or arguing....let alone not make any mis-steps in word choices during an interview when you've probably not slept for 3 days.

I don't know that these people are innocent, but assuming they are, I feel terrible for them.

Regarding a post above:
A baby may not cry if awoken in the night. They might, but my kids could be asleep and if I picked them up gently and held them right they would stay sleeping, even if I walked around the house with them.

And I'm pretty sure the baby was conceived by both of them, so it isn't like one person is jealous that someone else's baby is living with them..

This, if you don't jerk them around, if they are fast asleep they aren't waking, and if they do stir, it usually isn't into full wakefulness.

Even if the baby did cry, you probably wouldn't wake up immediately. The few minutes it would take for you to wake up is enough time for the abductor to escape out the window.

Daddy said the front door was unlocked, so I'm guessing the person just walked out the front door, not out the window. In window, out door.

I have a kid not too much older than this one. It's the same as it was with the others.....

Kids fall asleep in the car all of the time, and you can easily take a baby out of a car seat, grab a couple of bags of diapers or groceries, pack the kid into the house, take off your coat and shoes while holding them, change their diaper, put on a sleeper and put them in bed, usually without waking them. Sometimes they open their eyes and consider waking up and then dose back off with a shhhhhhh.

I thought I heard a couple of days ago that a neighbor (man I think) saw someone walking down the street about 1:30 in the morning with a baby. That in itself is pretty odd. Yet there does not seem to be any follow up reporting on that sighting/info.

Supposedly, the cops have no solid leads from that report.

This whole ordeal is really bothering me, as I have small kids at home.

Just a very odd / scary situation.

I haven't heard a specific neighborhood this occurred in, just KCMO. I live in KCMO and you see all kinds of things that should be unusual but aren't. Like the guy with one leg pushing an empty wheel chair down the middle of the Paseo. I've seen people walking with babies at all hours of the night.

Yep - we had trained our dog to not "freak out" / bark when the doorbell rang etc.

As soon as we brought our oldest daughter home from the hospital, all that went out the window.

Now if someone pulls in the driveway, parks on the street, walks through the front yard (much less rings the doorbell), she's up barking and generally going nuts.

Hell, we've had her get between the kids and the front door in an "attack" position when the pizza man comes to the door.

Seems like an inside job

Sounds like its just north of NKC / "Northtown".

The Missouri parents of missing 10-month-old Lisa Irwin are growing more desperate while police combing the neighborhood and asking to search people's homes have no leads in what they describe as a rare but terrifying crime.

Speaking on "Good Morning America" this morning from outside their home in Kansas City, the girl's mother choked back tears and father Jeremy Irwin repeated their plea for anyone with information on their missing toddler to come forward.

Lisa's mother, Deborah Brandley, described to "GMA" exactly what happened the last time she saw her daughter:

"[She disappeared] between the time she went to bed and time I went to bed," she said through tears. "I gave her her bottle and put her to sleep, and that was the last when we last saw her."

Irwin, who lives with Deborah and her two other children from pervious relationships, described how he returned from work around 4 a.m.

"The windows were open and the lights were on, and she was no where to be found," he said. "We've been going over everything in our minds. We just don't have any idea."

Police Capt. Steve Young said there are no major leads in the case, while Kansas City police and FBI agents continued their investigation and search for the baby. More than 300 law officers have been using helicopters, all-terrain vehicles and door-to-door interviews in the search.

Speaking with ABC News, Lisa's grandmother, Melanie Irwin, pleaded for the girl's return. "Bring her back. We love her, everybody loves her," Irwin said. "She needs her family. She needs her family. They need her."

Lisa was last seen at 10:30 p.m. Monday asleep in her crib at her parents' home. When her father arrived home at 4 a.m. from an overnight shift as an electrician, he discovered that Lisa was missing. The parents immediately called police.

While police initially fixated on a window and screen in the bedroom that appeared to have been tampered with and might have been where a kidnapper entered and exited, they are not certain such was the case.



"We are interviewing family and friends just to eliminate everyone's that close to the family as suspects," Officer Darin Snapp said.

He described the family's neighborhood as a "middle-class, very quiet neighborhood."

Ernie Allen of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children said that infant abduction cases are relatively rare. There have been 278 documented cases in which newborns or infants have been abducted since 1983.

Forty-six percent, or 128 cases, involved instances in which the children were taken from health care locations, hospitals, for instance. Forty percent, or 112 cases, involved children taken from homes. Of the total 278 cases, children were returned home safely in 266 instances.

"The typical profile of the abductor of an infant is a woman, usually an emotionally disturbed woman who has lost a child or wants a child for some reason," Allen told ABC News.

Brandley clutched a Barney stuffed doll Wednesday and pleaded for the life of her missing girl. "We just want our baby back," Lisa's mother said through sobs and tears while hugging the plush toy. "Please. Bring her home. Our two other boys are waiting for her."

"On Monday night or Tuesday morning, our daughter Lisa was taken from our home and we just urge anyone with any information as to where she is or who she's with to please call the tip hotline or the police," said Lisa's father Jeremy Irwin in a trembling voice. "Anything, even the smallest bit of information, could help lead to her return.

"Anybody that might have her, they can drop her off anyplace safe, fire station, hospital church, no questions asked," Irwin said.

Anyone with information on Lisa's disappearance should call the Kansas City Police Department hotline at 816-474-TIPS.

someone slipped into my dad's house in Belize, took a bunch of money and computers even out of dad's bedroom while he and his woman were sleeping. It's ballsy and unheralded but it is entirely possible for someone to sneak in an open window and not wake you up.

this story upset me.
i didn't think much about it until i saw the interview with the parents. man, i hope this turns out positive soon.

If it were my kid and they ever caught the guy, I might be tempted to hire the best lawyer I could to ensure the perp never went to jail where he'd be protected behind those walls and barbed wire fence.

I saw a video earlier that showed the child's bedroom was in the front of the house facing the street. I had just assumed it was in the back of the house with less visability.

Wonder why the mom says she was taken while she was still awake?

This story will bug me and drive me crazy until that little girl is safe with her family.

I don't think that is what she meant.

Ok, thanks!

I guess I am just too used to small town life. That would be pretty unusual where I live.

I think she probably misspoke and the article is piecing together parts of the conversation. She most likely wanted to say the child disappeared "between the time she and I went to bed and the time my husband came home."

I am sure the police have interviewed the father of her other two children, I would think he would be a prime suspect as well.

105 posts in and nobody has suggested these two yet...

http://idiotflashback.files.wordpres...imagelarge.jpg

On a positive note, they could produce a similar one in less than 2 years.

I don't know what this is supposed to mean, have alittle class dude. It's the ****ing catalina wine mixer.

There’s what’s right and there’s what’s right and never the twain shall meet. /H.I.

Parents are no longer cooperating with detectives.

Something sounds a little fishy about this now that that has happened.

Yep, even moreso than it did before. I certainly hope a lot of us are thinking wrongly though. I'm obviously not the only one thinking the parents have something to do with it.

It's just a weird situation. I mean someone broke into their house and stole the cell phones....and a baby? What? It just seems that there is something going on there.

Told you it was an inside job. I could tell by how that father was reacting this morning.

Very Weird.

You're making it sound way too effortless. Have you ever crawled through a window? If so, have you ever crawled through a window with a freaking baby in your hand? I haven't, but I'm guessing it's going to be fairly difficult, if not impossible, to do it swiftly and quietly.

Yeah, the story is absolutely bullshit.

That sounds ominous.

FAX

"Welcome home, Son.........where's he been"? (inquisitive)

"He came home to find an open window, an unlocked front door and lights turned on."

This was a strange story. Quite a few things that smell fishy. Reminds me of the Haley Cummings case in Florida. Very simular.

Dad's demeanor is very suspicous in this video:
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Heard today from someone that the police are now suspecting the mother. The baby apparently had been sick lately and the thinking is the mother had enough of the crying.

Hope not true but who knows at this point.

clear your PMs please

When I saw the mother crying on TV last night it made me think of that bitch Susan Smith (she drowned her two sons in her car and claimed that they had been kidnapped).

I hope that's not the case, because that means the other two kids in the family are ****ed.

Yeah, I figured it was going to end up being something like this.

Yep. How often do babies get snatched from their beds in the middle of the night? Had to know this wasn't going to end well.

Fox 4 just tried to interview them some relative said they aren't talking and have a deal with the national media? This is wacky shit.

The family went and got a lawyer. We know where this is going....

That's kind of an eerie response. Do you have tips to PM him on how to accomplish this task?

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The parents of a missing 10-month-old Missouri girl are no longer cooperating with authorities, and their claims that whoever took their daughter stole their cellphones hasn't produce any leads, police said Thursday night.

Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley, who said their daughter, Lisa, was snatched from her crib sometime Monday night or early Tuesday, had been cooperative since reporting her missing. But they changed course Thursday, Kansas City police spokesman Steve Young said.

"Tonight, they decided to stop talking to detectives, and I don't have to illustrate how that affects the investigation. That speaks for itself," he said.

He reiterated that investigators still have no suspects. A cousin of the baby's mother who has been acting as a spokesman for the family declined to comment to The Associated Press after Young's announcement Thursday evening.

During a tearful news conference Thursday morning, Irwin and Bradley had described how they frantically searched their home for any sign of their daughter after her father came home from work early Tuesday and she wasn't in her crib.

They said they found an open window, an unlocked front door and house lights blazing, and later discovered that their three cellphones were gone.

"They told us three cellphones were missing. It hasn't produced anything we can go forward with," Young said. "The investigation is directed and handled by hard information."

Investigators focused their search Thursday on a heavily wooded area, sewers and an industrial park. About 100 officers were scouring the industrial area and adjacent woods, while others were lifting drain covers and crawling inside.

But after the evening news conference, police spokesman Darin Snapp sent out a news release saying they believed they had done everything they could "regarding geographic searches" and were shutting down the command post about a mile from the home. Snapp said police "will continue tracking leads as we get them or develop additional information."


Police did not return messages seeking additional comment Thursday night.

Earlier in the day, a relative said Lisa's parents have given police more than a dozen names as they try to think of potential suspects or people who paid especially close attention to the child.

"We're scraping for anything, anyone who was at the house, who looked at her strange. Anything," said Mike Lerette, a cousin of the baby's mother.

Irwin said he immediately knew something was wrong when he returned home from work about 4 a.m. Tuesday. He checked on their other children, 6-year-old and 8-year-old boys, then went to Lisa's room and discovered her gone.

"I said, `What do you mean she is not in her crib?'" said Bradley, who had checked on her daughter about five hours earlier. "I just knew, you know, that something was really wrong. We ran around the house and screaming for her, but she was nowhere."

Bradley said that's when they discovered the phones had been taken, guessing it was to delay them from calling police. As she hugged her crying sons, Bradley said, Irwin checked outside and eventually contacted police.

"All I can think of is that maybe somebody wanted a baby," she said.

Lisa has blue eyes and blonde hair, is 30 inches tall and weighs around 28 pounds. She was last seen wearing purple shorts and a purple shirt with pictures of white kittens.

Authorities have used search dogs to go over the family's home and nearby woods, helicopters, all-terrain vehicles and door-to-door interviews with neighbors.

Police have said one possibility was that someone entered the home through a front window and snatched the baby, but they haven't pointed to any sign of forced entry.

Irwin said the abduction has been especially hard on Lisa's older brothers, who constantly ask if their sister has been found.

"We tell them, `Not yet, not yet,'" Irwin said. "It's the only thing we can think to tell them."

Yeah abcnews is saying they are refusing to cooperate with the police now..

edit.. they changed the title and wording..

Yes, very good ones in fact. Would you like me to forward them to you?

Yes, please.

Casey Anthony Part II Oh joy!

How did the Dad come home from work after the crime, but his cell was stolen during the crime? Wouldn't he of had his cell at work?

Answer: His kid is dead, he or his wife killed it

It was probably pesky little questions like that one that caused the family to stop cooperating.

I dont take mine to work.


But my kids are at home.
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id say you are in the extreme minority here.

Allegedly, they left them on the kitchen table because they were in the process of reprogramming them, or some such shit.

The cell phones hold the answer. Many now have GPS. They would also record where and when they were turned off at the cell tower...and the cell carriers mainframe.

As a dad myself, I remember when I had a newborn and trust me, my wife would have made sure I had my cell at my side at all times. Newborn gets sick and who will watch the other kids. When do you ever re-program 3 phones at once?

On a side note to all who have gone totally wireless. Look what can happen. If they had a landline they could have called 911 more quickly. It's only $20/mo.

The whole cell phone issue is weird. How many minutes would it take to get to the neighbors to use a phone of theirs? 120 seconds maybe?? So the whole idea of thinking it would be a "stalling for time" thing doesn't add up.
Also, I can't imagine anyone who broke in to kidnap the baby would be thinking of ANYTHING other than getting out asap without the baby waking up. Who the hell would be turning on lights and looking for something else to nab since they were there already??
This is really starting to stink.

If the father didn't have anything to do with it, then the mother did. JMO

Something is very strange about this whole thing.

Title of article is "KCPD Says Missing Baby's Parents No Longer Cooperating" but it doesn't really say how they're not. Weird.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/06...h-missing.html

This story says the hubby started to get "testy" with all the questioning and the mom failed a lie detector test.

I was watching Fox4 this morning. They reported that the mother supposedly failed a polygraph test.

The mother admitted she failed the test this morning on NBC.

Im sure "privately" investigators have suspected the parents all along, they just have no concrete evidence to say anything public about it.

That's an interesting turn.

It wouldn't be too tough to find out if dad was at work during his shift, and I'd think a 6 and 8 year old kid would know if they had seen their sister at bed time.

Did she fail the test on questions about the child or "have you been cheating on your husband".

Apparently, that night the dad worked overtime, it was the first time ever he had worked overtime.

New AP story:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/state-a...c911f4809.html

I've suspected the mom having something to do with it since the beginning. Just too many weird things that would only make sense if she was involved. I think it would be harder to get evidence that way, too. Main thing would be why. They've got to find motive.

TBS has a made for tv move in the works
Mellisa Joan Hart as the Mom
Tim Mcgraw as the dad
Nick Van Excel as the baby

Yep babies don't get abducted at 4 in the morning from homes.

Yep, that honor is reserved for 14 year old girls.

****ing submit reply button too close to the up button on the mobile sites.

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Nice take :D

yeah I live here and I understand what you're saying. where I live (small town dead end road), and having a dog, I wouldn't worry about leaving that window open with my 10 month old sleeping in there. where I used to live...I don't think I'd have fealt comefortable leaving that window open.....

Exactly, by their boyfriends.

Casey Anthony II: Electric Boogaloo...?

/hurr hurt mouth breathing humor