We're going to pick him up, and end up winning a game we shouldn't/wouldn't have, and come April someone will trade up to the spot we would have been to take Barkley.

We proceed to take the best available RT or 5-tech with the pick.

To be honest, I really don't give a crap what the Chiefs do in this situation.

Dude, me sitting here calling it like I see it is not going to affect anything done on this team....

Hell you could always trade up in the draft if you want a QB but with the exception of Luck, you are probably looking for 2 years of losing before one matures enough to win...

You guys need a Vet, would not be surprised to see Jason Campbell in a Chiefs uniform next year.

Pretty much. At least you guys are trying to win and doing whatever it takes. WIll it prove to be too costly? Possibly, but then again, maybe Palmer has a bunch of gas left in the tank and it works out for you. At least you guys are trying. A ton more than I can say for this organization.

Orton and Cassel. McDaniels will be ectstatic.

Oh, good grief. :banghead:

amen to that.

You seriously think Pioli will take him?

We've had 4 of the best players on this team go down for the season, and not one person has been brought in to replace them (other than jeremy f***ing horne). If Orton becomes a Chief, then this FO is simply flying by the seat of their pants at this point and has zero direction.

and that stinks of Clark Hunt.

Orton is no worse than an average starting NFL quarterback, which makes him a hell of a lot better than Cassel.

He could step in for the remainder of the year and we could see how he works with the staff. If he's solid, we could see if he'd be interested in a 2-yr deal while we try to develop Robert Griffin (who will need a lot of seasoning).

Or we could just let him walk. It's really a zero-risk acquisition. I'd be pretty annoyed if we just ignored him.

And we certainly will.

if it means they have given up on the Mark Castle experiment I am all for it

Pretty much how I see it, but be careful as you will be labeled as loving 8-8.

Orton would be awful behind the Chiefs OL. At least Cassel tries to get away from pressure, Orton just falls down if a defender is anywhere near him.

Completely different offense than he played in when he was there.

It may very well bite us in the ass but I would rather be close now without picks than light years away with a pocket full of them, It has been a decade of "Next Years" for us and I am damn tired of hearing the Next Year shit.

Getting this ready just in case:

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Didn't knowmo start a thread crowing about extending Orton earlier this year?

There will still be an option to trade up.
I hate seeing this team stand pat when there's an opportunity to improve the squad...just so they can MAYBE draft a QB with their #1.

Some of you are cheering Suck for _____ on and there's a very good chance we won't even be looking to draft a QB (and I'm ALL for drafting a QB).

That's exactly what will happen. Because they've set the precedence already by not replacing any of the others that went down. They are not interested in trying to scratch wins.

Jesus I get to watch this wreck, and the jayhawks every weekend for the rest of the year... what a spectacular time...

Best post of the thread., they are called vets for a reason.

ROFL

Jay Glazer expects us to put in a claim. The no franchise QB train keeps rollin.

I think we will ignore him too. This organziation/team has no urgency, no fight to win. Hell, look how we play the game in the 4th quarter, down by 2 or 3 scores and we dont even run a no huddle offense. We ****ing chill and take it easy like we are winning by 2 or 3 scores with 1 min left. At least try!!!! But nope, no fire, no desire. Why in the world would the organization act any different off the field? I think thats what aggravates me more than anything, our lack of will to win. If we suck, we suck but it seems as if the whole team/org doesnt ****ing care.

ROFL

Jay Glazer expects us to put in a claim. The no franchise QB train keeps rollin.

**** ORTON **** ANY RETREAD QB ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Play STANZI & DRAFT ANOTHER QB TITS!!!

I'll be happy if the Chiefs put a claim in for him.

I bet he's already on the Bears and they just haven't announced it.

JayGlazer Jay Glazer
RT @tbrugs: @JayGlazer where do you think orton will land... will he even play again this year?>I hear either CHI and/or KC will claim
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Don't make any moves.

I want 4 wins. I want the stadium full of black and yellow this weekend. I want Clark Hunt to look out his press box and think he's at an English premier Wolverhampton game. I want the team to generate the least amount of money possible the last 3 home games.

If you are a Chiefs fan tailgating the next few home games, feed the opposing fans as much as you. I don't want them buying anything inside.

Yep, they have Martz as OC now.

I hear that. really sick of it too.

ClaytonESPNJohn Clayton

What will be curious is if Orton goes to KC is he can spark the Chiefs to have a better record than the Broncos. They meet in Week 17

This is great. McDaniels will take over a roster with two Qb's familiar with his system. Keep Crennel, bolster the offensive line, get a pass rusher, and work on developing Stanzi.

To the ship!

Orton is a FREE AGENT NEXT YEAR

I would have to get the Popcorn out to watch a Tebow vs Orton matchup You know Orton would love to **** him up

Okay. And, your point is? You do know that he can get signed again, right?

You sound like a perfect fit to be a Raider fan.. Want me to get you an application? You already have a great name, I will put you at the very front of the line :thumb::p

ROFLROFL--Oh sweetheart, thank you, but Im not that desperate.o:-)

Throw in a lil love from World Wide Wes and you're a regular John Calipari.

(.)(.)

Play Stanzi draft another QB.

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TITS

Those dark eyes, dark hair and olive skin would look fab in black :thumb:

BobGlauberBob Glauber

RT @BradBiggs: With #Bears 30th in waiver wire, would be very surprised if they claimed Kyle Orton. Could neg. contract w/ him if he clears

How does that waiver wire positioning work exactly?

Well, with my Puerto Rican/Italian background, RED is my color:evil:

Worst to first? Like baseball?

Yep

Whoever claims him would only have to pay 1.8 mil.

You are correct...
The Waiver Wire works like this:
Team A signs Player X to a contract
Player X makes the roster and is on the team during the regular season
Team A decides it no longer wants Plaer X on its roster
Team A terminates the players contract, releasing him from his duties
Before Player X becomes a free agent, he hits the Waiver Wire
When his name goes on the waiver wire, every team in the NFL has the option to pick up the players original contract (the one Player X originally signed with Team A)
The Waiver Wire is like the NFL Draft in that teams with the worst records get first crack at the players who have been released
Once a team passes on the player then they cannot go back and claim him
If no team signs the player, then he becomes an unrestrictd free agent.


Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_does_t...#ixzz1eTWsK0hX

I thought it was 1.3?

over on pride there is a report chiefs could claim him by jay glazer ,i hope they do hes hell of a lot better than cassel.

I'm for anything that makes the Chiefs better and shows Pioli that moving away from Cassel is the thing to do.

I really don't want to see you guys claim him to be honest but it would be a no brainer if I were a Chief fan...



Where the hell is Mark Bulger?

I hope the hell they don't do it. Has any body learned any thing????




START STANZI PLEASE Allready DAMN

Play a rookie let him take his lumps, pop his cherry & move on.

Then set this team back for the rest of the year, draft a QB and waste another whole year developing him.

You are nuts, get a vet, school a rookie, if Stanzi is the man, let him hold the clipboard as #2 and learn

ortonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elqd-xt8SDQ

BULL ****ING SHIT IT WOULD. That's the only thing Chiefs do is start reject QBs from other teams. WE never do what winning franchises do in drafting and developing QBs by playing them.

Since we won't play Stanzi, I hope we pick Orton up. Look at it like this with our remaining schedule were going to lose every game anyway. Is it worth it for the fans to see a 35-31 score or a 35-3 score? We can maintain draft position and make it exciting. Win Win.

The problem with the Chiefs is that they have NO FRIGGIN CLUE HOW TO DEVELOP A QB.

Well, not playing them is part of that.

Dude.....it's not going to happen. You should know by now that the FO isn't going to throw him to the fire. What I do want though is us to put a claim on Orton. You let Orton play out the season and move Stanzi to #2 on the depth chart.

I want him signed for no other reason than to prove how piss-poor Cassel is. I want an average NFL QB to play on this team.

That's still bull shit move for the Chiefs to do if we do it. It's exactly what Carl Peterson would do.

If Pioli, Clark and Haley don't realize this by now, they never will. You don't need Orton to prove it.

Against the Steelers, Packers, Bears, & Raiders?

I hear the Chiefs are expected to claim him. Anyone else hear that?

did you hear it from earlier in this thread?

Orton is going to help out with the development of Baldwin as well.

You don't know how the NFL works, You think somebody is going to dominate the NFL just because he played well at Iowa? You want to demoralize this team and risk everything on a 5th round draft pick that has never taken a snap in the NFL that I know of.
This team is down, the fans are down and the franchise is in turmoil, you need calm to prevail in these situations not taking wild ass swings at a pitch you have virtually no chance at hitting.
You want to see McDaniels as the head coach of this team next year? Keep wishing for Haley to make stupid ass moves and you may get your wish.

You got beat by Miami which I thought was the best bad team in the NFL and I had no idea why they were 0-7 .. Look at them playing decent ball now. You got beat by a gimmick team which also beat us and you got beat by arguably the best QB in the NFL and you will get beat by another Great team next week and a couple more before the season ends....

Why get butt raped and put a rookie out there to get his ass handed to you and put more doubt in the players of this team?

Sign Orton and bring back Larry Jonson and the Chiefs will be cakn patna.

I am concerned about the good players on this teams moral, and them getting used to losing. At least with Orton, they might feel like they have a chance.

Like all those Denver guys who developed too? He'll be here for 5 games and will hardly know the playbook. All this does is help us not get a franchise QB (again).

Bull shit, Orton is a F/A after this year... If he sucks, let him go... No cap hit

Exactly if you like him so much sign him next year as a free agent why ruin your draft position?

they claimed Eddie Kennison a few years ago and that worked out pretty well.

No I heard it from this thread. Earlier.

*****NEWS FLASH******

kyle orton SUCKED for denver or he would have kept his job

Jesus. Welcome to where we're at.

For real though, the fact that we're hearing that the Chiefs are interested in placing a claim on the guy just shows you that they have lost faith in Cassel. Hopefully.

Can someone post the black and white pick of the guy sitting in a chair with what looks like a tree growing out of his head? It's used around here a lot when people think someone is crazy, IIRC.

Some people say a loss is a loss but thats not true

34-31 last night and this forum would have been a reach around fest here today.